Queen Mary 2 delay

[guernseyguy]

I note that QM2's signal was picked up approx due south of Newport at 3-45am (New York Time) doing 26.4 knots.

 

Given the delay I wonder why they are not sailing faster? She should have another 3 knots in her.....then again, that speed should see her in the Lower Bay by around 13.00 UTC.....which is 09.00 EST.....docked by 10.00?

[Louise D]

True. When the signal was first recorded about half an hour before I first noticed it, she was still only doing 25 knots. It does seem quite slow, and perhaps is due to an ongoing technical issue of some kind.

[Ray66]

This website is giving max/average 25.5/21 knots and ETA of 07.45.

 

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?MMSI=235762000

[guernseyguy]

This website is giving max/average 25.5/21 knots and ETA of 07.45.

 

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?MMSI=235762000

 

That's out of date - its 07.45 UTC - which has already passed (03.45 EST) and the track to the Lower Bay at the current speed (she'll have to slow down) has her there in 2 hours around 13.00 UTC, 09.00 EST - so docking between 10 & 11 I guess.

 

At least the pax won't have to get up at o'dark-thirty to enjoy sailing into NY!

 

Unless they have some serious fixing to do they may pick up some time on the 21.00 departure....

[Louise D]

Just past Breezy Point now. So guernseyguy you were pretty right with your estimate. It will be interesting to see how fast they can do the turn-around.

 

Louise

[Cruise Liner Fan]

It is 9:35 AM Eastern Standard Time and as I am writing this post the QM2 is approaching the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge as seen on the QM2 Bridgecam. Regards,Jerry

[happyglobetrotter]

We are now docked. Passengers will start embarking at 4 PM.

 

Using my last minutes of Internet, nice voyage to the new passengers !!!!:):):)

[MelnBob2]

The QM2 was delayed in Quebec because of some sort of mechanical misfunction. She just arrived at 11 AM at Brooklyn terminial. Cunard informs me that boarding will begin at 3 PM and will depart at 10 PM.

[Salacia]

How about the rest of the passengers? Do they not get a call too? :p;):D

 

....sorry! :o

 

I guess they fell through the cracks.:D:eek:

[pnhmrk]

Anyone disembarking QM2 in NYC tomorrow may wish to be aware that there is a serious mixed message in the daily program for tomorrow.

 

The section headed "Times to Note: Sail in to NYC", gives the impression that the ship will berth at Pier #88, Manhattan but the "Arrival in New York" section states that she will berth at Red Hook.

 

I didn't think that Pier 88 was big enough to take the QM2.:confused:

[bcscot]

I guess they fell through the cracks.:D:eek:

 

.......:D :D :D.......

 

 

....SHOCKING! :eek:

[Salacia]

I didn't think that Pier 88 was big enough to take the QM2.:confused:

 

Hi pnhmrk. In the recent past, when QM2 docked in Manhattan, I think she used Piers 90 and 92. Here's a website with photo essay of her various dockings in Manhattan http://www.beyondships.com/QM2-Manhattan.html

 

Cheers,

Salacia

[William Dean]

I didn't think that Pier 88 was big enough to take the QM2.:confused:

 

It's been in Manhattan before. I have a photograph of her in Manhattan above my desk.

[guernseyguy]

I didn't think that Pier 88 was big enough to take the QM2.:confused:

 

The pier is to short - so the US Coast Guard do not like her stern sticking out into the North River (navigation hazard) - and the bean counters don't like the stress the river & tidal flow put on her Azipod bearings

[Cruise Liner Fan]

The pier is to short - so the US Coast Guard do not like her stern sticking out into the North River (navigation hazard) - and the bean counters don't like the stress the river & tidal flow put on her Azipod bearings

I know that the US Coast Guard would not permit the QM2 to dock at the Manhattan Westside Piers 88,90 and 92 once the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal opened though the QM2 was allowed to dock at those Westside Manhattan Piers from 2004 to about January 2006 before the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal opened in April 2006.This is the first time ever of hearing that the stress the Hudson River aka North River tidal flow puts on the QM2's Azipods bearings. Regards,Jerry

[bob brown]

The Manhattan piers are 1,000 feet long, So the QM2 and some other megas-ships stick out beyond the pierhead line, frowned on by the

USCG. They do make exceptions on occasion, such as when the QM2 was new, and Brooklyn was not built yet, or when a newbuild such as the NCL Epic made its maiden arrival in New York.

I don't believe they would allow a pier extension further into the river.

So the only alternate to Brooklyn or Bayonne ("Cape Liberty"), would be to build a cruise terminal parallel to the river that could accommodate any size of ship.

Or even more radical, would be to move the slips further inland as was done back in the 1930's to accommodate RMS Queen Mary and others.

With the price of land now, that will never happen.

[rrunner]

I know that the US Coast Guard would not permit the QM2 to dock at the Manhattan Westside Piers 88,90 and 92 once the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal opened though the QM2 was allowed to dock at those Westside Manhattan Piers from 2004 to about January 2006 before the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal opened in April 2006.This is the first time ever of hearing that the stress the Hudson River aka North River tidal flow puts on the QM2's Azipods bearings. Regards,Jerry

We sailed on QM2 from Manhattan Pier 90 on May 21st. 2010. We received a phone call from Cunard the day before. Our table mates did not get the message and went to Red Hook.

[Boytjie]

I didn't think that Pier 88 was big enough to take the QM2.:confused:

 

She can dock there but her stern sticks out into the Hudson River. And it was full-house at the Manhattan piers with the NCL Dawn, P&O Aurora, Carnival Miracle and HAL's Veendam there today.

 

After the Caribbean Princess damaged a gangway in Red Hook in May while docking during high winds, the QM2 docked in Manhattan until the gangway was fixed.

[Boytjie]

The pier is to short

 

Or the ship's too long. :D

[Salacia]

Ok, I have my cup of tea & comfy chair... all set to watch the sailaway (via webcam) :) What's the latest on departure from Red Hook?

[bluemarble]

Ok, I have my cup of tea & comfy chair... all set to watch the sailaway (via webcam) :) What's the latest on departure from Red Hook?

 

Looks like she left right on time. I just saw her pass the Statue of Liberty webcam at 10:08 pm.

[Cruise Liner Fan]

It is 10:30 PM at this time that I am writing this post and according to the QM2's bridgewebcam,the QM2 is approaching the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge. Regards,Jerry

[Louise D]

Everything worked out fine for my friends who arrived at the Terminal about 1-30, and boarded with the first group around 3-30. Luckily I told them to look for the priority queue for Grill passengers. But they said that no-one else that they spoke to had been advised of the delay, so it seems that most of the embarking passengers were given no warning from Cunard. Anyway, thanks to Penny and others on this board who were so nice to post messages about the delay so that at least some passengers managed a relatively smooth boarding experience.

 

Louise

[Highlander0108]

So much for making up time.:( According to the AIS info, after the clearing the bridge, the ship had accelerated up to 17 knots. Now the ship has dropped back down to about 10 knots. This speed approaching New York was 26 knots right close up to the bridge.

[Salacia]

So much for making up time.:( According to the AIS info, after the clearing the bridge, the ship had accelerated up to 17 knots. Now the ship has dropped back down to about 10 knots. This speed approaching New York was 26 knots right close up to the bridge.

 

Hi Highlander. I think they're usually in a big hurry to get to the point where they can open the casino (as if any passengers are still awake;))...how far out was she when speed dropped?:confused: