How could RCL still allow smoking on the balcony

[rummenroman]

Let's get honest here. Smoking is both a quality of life and health issue. Both impact the non-smoker. Breathing clean air is certainly quality of life. Harmful effects of second hand smoke impacts the non smoker as well.

 

Let's get honest here. Drinking is both a quality of life and health issue. Both impact the non-drinker. My quality of life is impacted by drunks that cannot walk (picking them up after they fall, there is also a video of a drunk gal urinating on a public pool deck), and the alcohol smell is nauseating. When drunks fight (I've seen several on cruises) many by-standers are injuried. So let's ban drinking while we are at it too. :rolleyes:

[caribbean sailor]

These days, how could RCL still allow smoking on balconies (assuming

I read it correctly) ? Having a chain smoker, or early morning smoke,r in

the cabin next door can totally negate the benefits of having a balcony

for a non smoker. RCL is way behind the times on this issue.

 

If this is problem for you sail on another cruise line.Have a nice cruise on Celebrity. :confused: :D

[Trickie Dickie]

Let's get honest here. Drinking is both a quality of life and health issue. Both impact the non-drinker. My quality of life is impacted by drunks that cannot walk (picking them up after they fall, there is also a video of a drunk gal urinating on a public pool deck), and the alcohol smell is nauseating. When drunks fight (I've seen several on cruises) many by-standers are injuried. So let's ban drinking while we are at it too. :rolleyes:

 

Is this the best case a "pro-smoking on a cruise ship" argument? Using oranges to explain apples is very weak. how about sticking to the topic (smoking on the balcony) :rolleyes: Feel free to start another thread on alcohol. :D

[Trickie Dickie]

If this is problem for you sail on another cruise line.Have a nice cruise on Celebrity. :confused: :D

 

You could start cruising Costa! They love to smoke on Costa!

[yogimax]

Let's get honest here. Drinking is both a quality of life and health issue. Both impact the non-drinker. My quality of life is impacted by drunks that cannot walk (picking them up after they fall, there is also a video of a drunk gal urinating on a public pool deck), and the alcohol smell is nauseating. When drunks fight (I've seen several on cruises) many by-standers are injuried. So let's ban drinking while we are at it too. :rolleyes:

 

You almost have it right, but not quite.

 

1. Second hand smoke kills innocent people.

2. Drunk drivers kill innocent people.

 

There's no need to ban drinking per se, but there is a need to ban it in excess, especially where driving is involved.

 

Secondly, I would ask exactly how many drunks you have picked up after falling and how many people you have seen urinating on a pool deck, other than in some video.

 

Hundreds if not more, however, have been impacted by the smell of smoke on their balconies, in the casino, etc..

 

Your analogy fails!:rolleyes:

[surikatina]

In case RCI is reading this post, I'm adding my vote for no smoking on balconies!! Drink as much as you like because I can't smell the alcohol but smoke travels and it makes me nauseous!

[purescottish]

I am a smoker and used my balcony only in the morning for a smoke and late at night before bed, I never saw anyone else out there (we were an aft cabin )

What I did find strange and it made me feel uncomfortable, was they allowed smoking inside the hoof and claw pub on the promenade, but if I moved forward 2 seats I would have been "outside" the pub and on the promenade where it was not allowed... I think they should ban smoking from ALL inside areas where there is no "wind" to disipate the smoke...

just sayin'

 

wendy

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[caribbean sailor]

These comments always strike me as very hypocritical or at least completely self absorbed. The person knows smoke is so undesirable that they won't smoke in their own house. They then feel it is ok to smoke in areas where it is allowed even though they know it stinks so bad they don't want it in their own house.

 

It's ok to them because they get to walk away from the stench. If you won't do something in your own house because you find it offensive then you shouldn't do it anywhere you expose it to others as there is a very high likely hood they will be offended just like you. If you won't do it in your own house, where it is definitely allowed, then don't do it around me even in an area it is allowed because you know at the very least it's a nuisance and at most a health risk.

 

You know it stinks, you know it lingers, you know it sticks to clothes, furniture and walls, you know it finds it way inside through brief openings of a door and yet you stink up others surroundings because you need or enjoy the fix and then leave the area and the poisonous stink behind while you find another area to enjoy yourself. If you won't subject your private legal smoking place to the fumes then don't subject my private space, even if smoking is allowed.

 

Quit rationalizing with statements of it's allowed. it dissipates quickly, you paid your money also or any other quackery. You now it stinks so you won't do it in your own house. That means you know it's wrong to inflict it on others. Otherwise host a smoking party in your home so we can all come over and puff away a pack or two. You'll have to replace your carpet, dump the furniture, paint the inside and do something about your HVAC system if you want to live there after the party or if you want to sell your house.

 

You also know it stinks. So why would you book a cruise on a line that allows smoking on the balcony's.Then complain about it.Have a nice cruise on Celebrity. :confused: :D

[MORcrzr]

I am also an evil ex-smoker. Quit 12 years ago. If the doctor ever tells me I have 6 months to live my first stop will be at a convenience store to buy a pack of Marlboros. That's me. Here's what I think:

 

1. I would never be in favor of completely banning smoking outside. And smoking on an oceanview balcony is outside! I like the idea of having one side of the ship where smoking is not allowed on the balconies, but if that never happens, I can live with the outside smoke. We have mentioned to neighbors before that the smoking bothered us and they did what they could to not chain smoke when we were out. We were nice about it. They were nice about it. Usually it is a non-issue.

 

2. What I think is the big problem is inside smoking. I know we can cruise on other lines, but we don't want to! It is hard for me to understand how anyone can justify smoking inside and putting someone else's health at risk.

 

But that's just me . . . :D

[My2Kitties]

Reason why I dont bother with the boards anymore

[BecciBoo]

These comments always strike me as very hypocritical or at least completely self absorbed. .

 

:eek:Wow and your comments are NOT self absorbed.:eek: Wow.

I do not smoke, hate smoke from cigarettes. But I can put myself in the other guys shoes at least. He's talking about an outside space not inside his "home" away from home. That is so unfair. Although I do not want to be around it either, at least I can be objective about it. I feel to ban it from an enclosed space where people cannot get away from it, like a restaurant, is justified. But on a balcony where wind should blow it away?

I really think they should have a bank of balconies allowing smoking and then the rest not. They could be at the back of the ship where the smoke would not bother anyone. That would be fairer than what you have in mind.

[negc]

It may happen eventually that RCI will join other lines and ban smoking on balconies as well as in staterooms, but for the time being it appears that they are trying to effect a reasonable compromise between the wishes of the smokers and non-smokers. I don't think establishing a certain number of balcony rooms where smoking would be allowed, is feasible for any number of reasons and would only further complicate the booking process when cruisers might suddenly find that their favorite room now allows or prohibits smoking on the balcony. Where would the line be drawn and how would passengers one room removed from the arbitrary line react when smoke invaded their room or balcony (especially if they chose their room because it was "non-smoking". Restricting the smokers to aft rooms might not work too well if the winds were blowing strongly in the opposite direction and would remove a certain number of rooms favored by non-smokers who may regularly prefer aft cabins.

[Cushing985]

Another string about smoking!:D I love them and really enjoy the same arguements being made constantly. If someone starts a thread about chairhogs smoking in a non-smoking area I would be in heaven!

 

Those of you who complain about smokers on the balcony and worried about second hand smoke have to realize that you're not taking in all of your neighbor's smoke (as if you're in an enclosed room). You may be getting a whiff every now and then but you're not going to die from it. Good grief! I don't smoke (I vape:D) and I don't like the smell of smoke but it isn't going to kill me because we are, after all, on a balcony and the smell doesn't linger. If a slight whiff of smoke causes you to go into cardiac arrest then you have some serious health conditions and should stay home in your little bubble of safety.

 

In all of my cruises I rarely see (if ever) smokers breaking the rules but that doesn't seem to satisfy some non-smokers. It's almost like they search out smokers so they can show their disgust.

 

And to the smokers...do yourself a favor and at least try to use an e-Cig. It will save your life and will allow you to get your fix just about everywhere...no smoke (just water vapor), no smell and no tax. You can even blow smoke rings!:D

[Sky616]

Another vote for non smoking balconies. One more thing where do you think the butt goes after the cigarette is finished. Oh that's right probably overboard.

[IrishCC]

These days, how could RCL still allow smoking on balconies (assuming

I read it correctly) ? Having a chain smoker, or early morning smoke,r in

the cabin next door can totally negate the benefits of having a balcony

for a non smoker. RCL is way behind the times on this issue.

I couldn't agree more . . . but now everyone is going to tell you to go to Celebrity .. . . . As a stockholder and a diamond member . . . .I hope RCL changes it's policy.

 

Colleen

[Langley Cruisers]

I smoked for over 20 years! I'm very proud that I am smoke free now for 12.5 years. It wasn't easy. I have found that I have become extremely sensitive to smoke. I can smell it outdoors even if you are far away. Wierd! but true!

 

Me too! Congrats on quitting smoking. I am now smoke-free for 31 years, 1 month, 10 days. Yes, I count. It's important. :)

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[Cushing985]

Another vote for non smoking balconies. One more thing where do you think the butt goes after the cigarette is finished. Oh that's right probably overboard.

 

Do you always make assumptions in your life? You must be a joy.

[condorfan]

I don't smoke and have had plenty of people in balconies next to me that do smoke. It's never bothered me.

same here

[Annie R]

I quit a year & 1/2 ago after 32 years but smokers do not bother me and I know how difficult it is to quit & how enjoyable it can be also while I was smoking. When I was on Oasis in 2010 I was still a chain smoker & they provided a very nice smokeless ashtray to use on our balcony. All the smoke goes inside the top of the ashtray & nothing comes out. We paid a lot of money back then & a lot for our upcoming Allure cruise in Feb. & I can guarantee with that ashtray NO ONE will smell smoke I think some people just like to complain because they dont APPROVE of what other people enjoy. I dont enjoy drinking a lot but i dont go around these bords telling others not to overindulge!! :rolleyes: OH & by the way when I did smoke I would never throw my but overboard just common sense

[sharod]

One more thing where do you think the butt goes after the cigarette is finished. Oh that's right probably overboard.

 

I can only speak for hubby and me, but ours goes in the ashtray that Royal provides for us.

 

[booze brothers]

Well, let's not confuse anyone.... the non-smoking balconies are inside neighborhood balconies, not ocean balconies.

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I didn't know that. Learn something every day.