peaches from georgia Posted October 27, 2015 #2601 Share Posted October 27, 2015 anyone out there? I have not seen any posts lately. Maybe there is just no more to say that hasn't been said umpteen times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookited Posted October 27, 2015 #2602 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I agree.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunset Glow Posted October 27, 2015 #2603 Share Posted October 27, 2015 How about the news just announced by NCL that their new ship will have a separate smoking room in the casino? I wish all the cruise lines would do this in order to contain the smoke. Maybe Hal will do this on their new ship. Still doesn't solve the balcony smoking though:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted October 27, 2015 #2604 Share Posted October 27, 2015 How about the news just announced by NCL that their new ship will have a separate smoking room in the casino?... I'll have to look into this. Other than their suites being a bit overpriced, one of the reasons I've not rebooked NCL lately is that I feel their casinos are among the smokiest at sea! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted October 27, 2015 #2605 Share Posted October 27, 2015 anyone out there? I have not seen any posts lately. Sure. Only because you asked, this was the pleasure I had on Oosterdam. This was 2 balconies ahead of me... And this was right below me... I knew it was allowed going in, but it still sucks when it happens...especially that wretched cigar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted October 27, 2015 #2606 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Sure. Only because you asked, this was the pleasure I had on Oosterdam. This was 2 balconies ahead of me... ... I knew it was allowed going in, but it still sucks when it happens...especially that wretched cigar. Yes... it does Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunset Glow Posted October 27, 2015 #2607 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Sure. Only because you asked, this was the pleasure I had on Oosterdam. This was 2 balconies ahead of me... And this was right below me... I knew it was allowed going in, but it still sucks when it happens...especially that wretched cigar. How disappointing....and so not safe.:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunset Glow Posted October 27, 2015 #2608 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'll have to look into this. Other than their suites being a bit overpriced, one of the reasons I've not rebooked NCL lately is that I feel their casinos are among the smokiest at sea! Tom here's a link to the CC article http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=6615 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted October 27, 2015 #2609 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) here's a link to the cc article http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?id=6615 thanks :) Edit... anyone know why, when I posted "thanks" above in all caps, that CC "downgraded" it to lower case when it posted? Edited October 27, 2015 by Tom-n-Cheryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted October 28, 2015 #2610 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) thanks :) Edit... anyone know why, when I posted "thanks" above in all caps, that CC "downgraded" it to lower case when it posted? FROM what I've seen, CC won't allow you to "shout" by preventing upper case only posts. But if you don't start in upper case, other than the initial letter, you can switch to upper case in the body. LIKE THIS! I started the above paragraph with an all upper case FROM. If I'm right, it will now be lower case. Edited: Wrong, FROM remained upper case. Maybe just a single word in all caps doesn't work. Edited October 28, 2015 by Fouremco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted October 28, 2015 #2611 Share Posted October 28, 2015 FROM what I've seen, CC won't allow you to "shout" by preventing upper case only posts. But if you don't start in upper case, other than the initial letter, you can switch to upper case in the body. LIKE THIS! I started the above paragraph with an all upper case FROM. If I'm right, it will now be lower case. Edited: Wrong, FROM remained upper case. Maybe just a single word in all caps doesn't work. THANKS Fouremco !:D Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted October 28, 2015 #2612 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) thanks fouremco !:d tom welcome! :) Edit: That was all caps, so it looks like the theory that a single upper case word will be converted to lower case, but two or more words (THANKS Fouremco) will be ok. Now back to the exciting world of smoking policy! Edited October 28, 2015 by Fouremco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted October 28, 2015 #2613 Share Posted October 28, 2015 welcome! :) Edit: That was all caps, so it looks like the theory that a single upper case word will be converted to lower case, but two or more words (THANKS Fouremco) will be ok. Now back to the exciting world of smoking policy! One last observation (totally OT, I know!) - the formatting was stripped from the quote of my post (in your last post). No telling, and I'm sure most don't care! :) Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanandjoe Posted October 28, 2015 #2614 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) We mentioned in our last post that we had sent an email to Guest Relations sating that we had canceled our March, 2016 cruise on the Oosterdam due to the smoking on balconies policy. We received the following response last week: "Dear *** Thank you for your email regarding your canceled sailing aboard the ms Oosterdam, scheduled to depart on March 11, 2016. We understand your concerns regarding smoking on board, and truly regret that this has caused you to decide to cancel your cruise holiday. We endeavor to balance the needs of both our smoking and nonsmoking guests. Currently, our policy is to allow guests to smoke on their stateroom verandahs and designated areas on deck, as well as in the casino on select evenings each sailing; cigar and pipe smoking is restricted to outside decks and verandahs. However, guest input is always welcome and thus we appreciate your comments. They have been forwarded to appropriate management and as attitudes toward smoking continue to change we will revisit this policy with comments such as yours in mind. Again, thank you for your detailed feedback. We do hope to have the opportunity to welcome you on board in the not-too-distant future. Best Regards, Karla Haigh Special Advisor Office of the President" There's certainly no indication that HAL is contemplating a change in its smoking policy. Note, however, the casino smoking policy. As stated in some posts that were heavily disputed, smoking is allowed in the casino on some nights, not allowed on others. Edited October 28, 2015 by Joanandjoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted October 28, 2015 #2615 Share Posted October 28, 2015 ...Note, however, the casino smoking policy. As stated in some posts that were heavily disputed, smoking is allowed in the casino on some nights, not allowed on others. Interesting - thanks. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted October 28, 2015 #2616 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) There's certainly no indication that HAL is contemplating a change in its smoking policy. Note, however, the casino smoking policy. As stated in some posts that were heavily disputed, smoking is allowed in the casino on some nights, not allowed on others. That response you posted is exactly how I would expect HAL to respond...a generic response. At least you told them. DW and I did the same on our surveys. Ref the casino, smoking was definitely not allowed in the casino during the 2 gala nights on Oosterdam. This was clearly posted in the daily On Location. I have no idea if it was enforced though. It was allowed on all other nights. Edited October 28, 2015 by Aquahound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted October 28, 2015 #2617 Share Posted October 28, 2015 What a well constructed letter! It gives nonsmokers hope by saying they will "revisit" their policy. But it means nothing. And then they hope to "welcome you aboard in the not-too-distant future" despite the fact that the policy that caused you to cancel is unlikely to be changed in the "not-too-distant future." Corporate-speak, gotta love it. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie68 Posted October 28, 2015 #2618 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I thought that the "....as attitudes towards smoking continue to change...." shows how out of touch HAL is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugcarol Posted October 28, 2015 #2619 Share Posted October 28, 2015 When we sailed on Emerald Princess last December, they had two nights smoke free in casino. There were only 6 people at the slots and nobody at the tables, on the first night and a couple of people at the slots and 2 people at the Black Jack table. We went in several times during those nights and table dealers were not a happy bunch. Where were all the nonsmokers that wanted a smoke free casino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzaholic41 Posted October 28, 2015 #2620 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I thought that the "....as attitudes towards smoking continue to change...." shows how out of touch HAL is. That statement from HAL certainly is an indictment on their intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spideysmum Posted October 28, 2015 #2621 Share Posted October 28, 2015 We had our cruise chartered and were refunded. As I had done no research on the line I had been dismayed about the veranda smoking policy. The itinerary was good but we decided to rebook with Princess that has a no smoking on balcony policy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim22361 Posted October 28, 2015 #2622 Share Posted October 28, 2015 We live in such an unfortunate age of political correctness, with people becoming such busybodies, preoccupied with what others are doing. I applaud HAL for having the courage to stand in the face of the Pleasure Police and allow smoking on balconies. There are many things I could get offended by with regard to my fellow cruisers. Maybe I find the obese cruisers disgusting. Perhaps I find their perfume revolting. Some are too loud. Others are obnoxious. Some get drunk. But they all paid for their cruise, and I would never stand in the way of their having fun on their cruise. It's too bad we no longer live in simpler times, where people minded their own business, and everyone had a live and let live philosophy. And please, before anyone posts the predictable "second hand smoke" nonsense, that objection has already been taken apart on this thread. Smoke em if ya got em, I say. The whole ship could be smoking friendly, for all I care. Bravo to you HAL, for being the only mature adult in the whole damn industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted October 28, 2015 #2623 Share Posted October 28, 2015 We had our cruise chartered and were refunded. As I had done no research on the line I had been dismayed about the veranda smoking policy. The itinerary was good but we decided to rebook with Princess that has a no smoking on balcony policy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yep - a cruise line having a MAJOR fire which started on a balcony (presumed to be via a tossed cigarette) can more easily make that call! HAL will come around, eventually. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim22361 Posted October 28, 2015 #2624 Share Posted October 28, 2015 So... you get someone in the cabin next to you that brings a subwoofer with them, and they play into the early morning... and all you can hear is that THUMP THUMP THUMP (that we've all heard in traffic). You'd be OK with that?? ;) Tom Nope. Sure wouldn't. But then, you see, I would avoid any cruise line which allowed a guest to play boom boxes loudly in their cabin. If Acme Cruise Line allows guests to play boom boxes in the cabins, then that's their business. I'd just steer clear of Acme Cruise Line. Perhaps Acme Cruise Line could have "Boom Boxes Allowed" Cabins. That would be fine, if they chose to do that. I'd just book a cabin in the "No Boom Box" section. Of course, I wasn't aware people playing Boom Boxes on cruise ships was such a problem. Naturally, I would assume most cruise lines have a policy about excessive noise in cabins. Any other straw men you'd like to mention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabern Posted October 28, 2015 #2625 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I fully agree with you, Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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