Jana60 Posted November 27, 2014 #26 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Not exactly the same thing. After all, even your presidents refer to you as 'my fellow Americans' and I don't suppose they mean Canadians or inhabitants of Central and South America:) Our borders are so porous that they are practically referring to Canada and South America when they say my fellow Americans in a public address. :rolleyes: Sent from my Nexus 7 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB48 Posted November 27, 2014 #27 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Just an aside... the quote feature only seems to working when you click on the last post. From Lutece; "Not exactly the same thing. After all, even your presidents refer to you as 'my fellow Americans' and I don't suppose they mean Canadians or inhabitants of Central and South America:)" Many times US citizens are perceived as being arrogant as we call ourselves "Americans" although we share this pretty big continent with a lot of other countries. I think we came to call ourselves Americans innocently... a United Statesian just doesn't have a good sound to it! The U.S. is the only country that uses the term "America" in the name of the country. For example we have Dominion of Canada, Los Estados Mexicanos, La Republica de Panama and so on. So it is easy to see how "American" came to be associated with the United States. I lived outside the US a good while and where I was living in Latin America, they had another name for folks from the US (no, not that one;))! Occasionally they would refer to someone from the US as "Americano"... but generally they would refer to people from the US as Norte Americano, even though that could include Canadians and Mexicans as well. So I guess the inconsistencies will continue. To keep this thread on topic, probably the PVSA would not be much of a topic on this board if every once in a while it did not rear its ugly head and cause some cruiser from no to be able to string three or four B2Bs together. The same ship on the same voyage can be in violation because a passenger happens to stay on too long or get off too early!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloria Mundi Posted November 27, 2014 #28 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) The Jones act (for cargo) and the PVSA were enacted to "protect" American flagged shipping. There isn't any The Pride of America was reflagged as an American ship so it could cruise the Hawaiian Islands without going to Kiribati (foreign port). This forced the cruise line to hire a mostly American crew and pay then at least minimum wage. Read the member reviews to see how this affected service. Uncruise.com has US-flagged ships, American crew and itineraries totally within Alaska. We've taken them twice and service is superb. Edited November 27, 2014 by Gloria Mundi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottbee Posted November 27, 2014 #29 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Our borders are so porous that they are practically referring to Canada and South America when they say my fellow Americans in a public address. :rolleyes: No kidding; I can't believe how many Europeans snuck in during the 17th, 18th and 19th century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Trips Posted November 27, 2014 #30 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Citing one of our senators as a source is usually a very bad idea. Not exactly the same thing. After all, even your presidents refer to you as 'my fellow Americans' and I don't suppose they mean Canadians or inhabitants of Central and South America:) An equally bad idea . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMLady Posted November 28, 2014 #31 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Sort of. It a US law that applies to US ports (not "American") I didn't mean to cause any offence, but could you please explain to a European citizen, what is the difference between them? I wouldn't have thought of using 'US' instead of 'American' as to me they are synonymous. Most people do use American to mean US but technically North America is made up of three countries, not just the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted November 28, 2014 #32 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Most people do use American to mean US but technically North America is made up of three countries, not just the US. ..... and Latin America as well as South America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted November 28, 2014 #33 Share Posted November 28, 2014 As a Canadian I don't like being called an American. Friends from Mexico don't like to be called American either. Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottbee Posted November 28, 2014 #34 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Most people do use American to mean US but technically North America is made up of three countries, not just the US. It's made up of a lot more than three countries... But I'm just being technical. United States Canada Mexico Cuba Dominican Republic Guatemala Costa Rica Panama Trinidad and Tobago El Salvador Honduras Jamaica Nicaragua Haiti The Bahamas Barbados Belize Saint Lucia Antigua and Barbuda Grenada Saint Kitts and Nevis Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Dominica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talisker92 Posted November 28, 2014 #35 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Uncruise.com has US-flagged ships, American crew and itineraries totally within Alaska. We've taken them twice and service is superb. Dear Gloria, You are correct. I did not mention small ship outfits that cruise the Mississippi and Columbia Rivers, or the coasts and inland waterways of the US. They are not the ones that can have a problem with a B2B cruise. Edited November 28, 2014 by Talisker92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted November 28, 2014 #36 Share Posted November 28, 2014 It's made up of a lot more than three countries... But I'm just being technical. United States Canada Mexico Cuba Dominican Republic Guatemala Costa Rica Panama Trinidad and Tobago El Salvador Honduras Jamaica Nicaragua Haiti The Bahamas Barbados Belize Saint Lucia Antigua and Barbuda Grenada Saint Kitts and Nevis Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Dominica Only the US , Canada and Mexico is in North America . The rest are Central America or the Caribbean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted November 28, 2014 #37 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Only the US , Canada and Mexico is in North America . The rest are Central America or the Caribbean. North America is a continent; Central America is not. There are countries on that list on the land mass of North America that are also in Central America. Edited November 28, 2014 by RuthC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin' Chick Posted November 28, 2014 #38 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I've seen Central American countries listed as being part of North America, too, many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutèce Posted November 28, 2014 Author #39 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Goodness! I didn't have any idea my original query would spark off such a discussion. Très interessant!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin' Chick Posted November 28, 2014 #40 Share Posted November 28, 2014 That's Cruise Critic for ya! (BTW, the quote butto didn't work for me just now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted November 29, 2014 #41 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Only the US , Canada and Mexico is in North America . The rest are Central America or the Caribbean. Do you know something that World Atlas doesn't? North America, the planet’s 3rd largest continent, includes (23) countries and dozens of possessions and territories. It contains all Caribbean and Central America countries, Bermuda, Canada, Mexico, the United States of America, as well as Greenland - the world’s largest island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted November 29, 2014 #42 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) According to https://www.countries-ofthe-world.com/countries-of-north-america.html the countries included in North America are: Antigua & Barbuda Bahamas Barbados Belize Canada Costa Rica Cuba Dominica Dominican Republic El Salvador Grenada Guatemala Haiti Honduras Jamaica Mexico Nicaragua Panama St. Kitts & Nevis St. Lucia St. Vincent & The Grenadines Trinidad & Tobago United States of America A more inclusive list from http://countriesnorthamerica.com/ 1 Anguilla 2 Antigua and Barbuda 3 Aruba 4 Bahamas 5 Barbados 6 Belize 7 Bermuda 8 British Virgin Islands 9 Canada 10 Cayman Islands 11 Costa Rica 12 Cuba 13 Dominica 14 Dominican Republic 15 El Salvador 16 Greenland 17 Grenada 18 Guadeloupe 19 Guatemala 20 Haiti 21 Honduras 22 Jamaica 23 Martinique 24 Mexico 25 Montserrat 26 Netherlands Antilles 27 Nicaragua 28 Panama 29 Puerto Rico 30 Saint Barthélemy 31 Saint Kitts and Nevis 32 Saint Lucia 33 Saint Martin 34 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 35 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 36 Trinidad and Tobago 37 Turks and Caicos Islands 38 U.S. Virgin Islands 39 United States Edited November 29, 2014 by Shmoo here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talisker92 Posted November 29, 2014 #43 Share Posted November 29, 2014 By about post ten, cher Lutece had it explained. After that it became a lesson in North American geography! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul929207 Posted November 29, 2014 #44 Share Posted November 29, 2014 By about post ten, cher Lutece had it explained. After that it became a lesson in North American geography! More a lesson of confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Trips Posted November 29, 2014 #45 Share Posted November 29, 2014 More a lesson of confusion. :rolleyes: too true. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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