copi2boys Posted October 29, 2015 #1 Share Posted October 29, 2015 It seems the VCLs are being phased out? Would be so sad, it is our go-to place for a night cap. Is there one still on Allure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc2725 Posted October 29, 2015 #2 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) I know there is still one on Independence, not sure about the other two. I would assume yes. Edited October 29, 2015 by Doc2725 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnetpalmetto Posted October 29, 2015 #3 Share Posted October 29, 2015 It seems the VCLs are being phased out? Would be so sad, it is our go-to place for a night cap. Is there one still on Allure? No, the one on Allure was phased out at her last drydock. It's Coastal Kitchen and the Suite Lounge now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted October 29, 2015 #4 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The VCL is being converted to a suites lounge and dining room. According to those who have sailed Allure, this conversion is complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkvillain Posted October 29, 2015 #5 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) No more VCL on the Allure. If you are pinnacle or in a GS or higher you can use the old VCL which is now the Suite Lounge. The VCL has only been replaced on the Oasis class. There is no VCL on the Quantum class, instead they have the Two70 lounge which in my opinion is a better venue anyway. The deck 3/4 nightclubs are being removed from the Freedom and Voyager class ships with the nighttime activities being pushed up to the VCL. Edited October 29, 2015 by Yorkvillain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty G Posted October 29, 2015 #6 Share Posted October 29, 2015 It seems the VCLs are being phased out? Would be so sad, it is our go-to place for a night cap. As a long time RCI customer who experienced my first Viking Crown experience on Song of America I am very disappointed that RCI has chosen to eliminate them in new builds and restrict access to Suite and Pinnacle guests in recent conversions of the Viking Crowns. This was a hallmark of the brand that kept many of us coming back. Too sad! :mad::confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARCruisinNana Posted October 29, 2015 #7 Share Posted October 29, 2015 As a long time RCI customer who experienced my first Viking Crown experience on Song of America I am very disappointed that RCI has chosen to eliminate them in new builds and restrict access to Suite and Pinnacle guests in recent conversions of the Viking Crowns. This was a hallmark of the brand that kept many of us coming back. Too sad! :mad::confused: Most of the existing ships still have VCL open to everyone. Changes to Liberty coming up will leave the VCL intact. It is the card room (on 14) that is being turned into a Suite Lounge. The current CL will become the card room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatour Posted October 30, 2015 #8 Share Posted October 30, 2015 The conversion of the VCL on the Oasis class ships is the one big drawback for them. There is absolutely no other indoor public lounge to view the ocean while enjoying a drink. At least on the Freedom/Voyager you have other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted October 30, 2015 #9 Share Posted October 30, 2015 The conversion of the VCL on the Oasis class ships is the one big drawback for them. There is absolutely no other indoor public lounge to view the ocean while enjoying a drink. At least on the Freedom/Voyager you have other options. Whether it is "one big drawback" or an impressive feature depends solely upon whether you've booked a suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willing292 Posted October 30, 2015 #10 Share Posted October 30, 2015 One of the reasons I started cruising with RCI, was because I wanted to sit way, high up over the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minn0315 Posted October 30, 2015 #11 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Whether it is "one big drawback" or an impressive feature depends solely upon whether you've booked a suite. Why are those of us that pay premium prices for suites so disliked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted October 30, 2015 #12 Share Posted October 30, 2015 It seems the VCLs are being phased out? ? Maybe this would be the time to fill us in as to why you think this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setting sail for fun Posted October 30, 2015 #13 Share Posted October 30, 2015 As a long time RCI customer who experienced my first Viking Crown experience on Song of America I am very disappointed that RCI has chosen to eliminate them in new builds and restrict access to Suite and Pinnacle guests in recent conversions of the Viking Crowns. This was a hallmark of the brand that kept many of us coming back. Too sad! :mad::confused: Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js Posted October 31, 2015 #14 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) We book suites on NCL and sail in the Haven. So, we really dont book just for the cabin but also the Haven courtyard. On RCCL we book "regular" balconies. While its nice to have a great cabin I would also like space comparable to the Haven, which RCCL doesnt offer. From what Ive been reading it seems that RCCL is slowly trying to change to more of a suite space for its guests. If RCCL had a separate "Haven" area and pool, restaurant, bar etc, I would certainly be interested in sailing concierge. My post is to mean that while I do enjoy the Viking Crown Lounge, I can also understand why RCCL may want to begin changing them. Ill be sailing on Indy over NYE in an aft balcony on deck 7, and Im happy to read they still have the lounge. Edited October 31, 2015 by js Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copi2boys Posted October 31, 2015 Author #15 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Maybe this would be the time to fill us in as to why you think this? Seems like they are being changed over to suite lounge and Coastal Kitchen on the Oasis class ships. Quantum and Anthem don't have a VCL. On Legend it seemed like most of that area was taken up by Izumi, but we had a good time in the lounge area anyways! Edited October 31, 2015 by copi2boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted October 31, 2015 #16 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Seems like they are being changed over to suite lounge and Coastal Kitchen on the Oasis class ships. Quantum and Anthem don't have a VCL. On Legend it seemed like most of that area was taken up by Izumi, but we had a good time in the lounge area anyways! So far that adds up to only 2 out of 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yj_eugene Posted October 31, 2015 #17 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Why are those of us that pay premium prices for suites so disliked? It's not you per se. It's that to give you more, Royal is taking away things that were available to all. Most non-suiters are probably OK with you getting more as long as it doesn't mean we're getting less. When it does, then it's a problem. Good example: the new suites-only sun deck/lounge/bar above the Solarium on Oasis class. More for you, not less for me, winner winner. Unlike the Viking Crown, a signature feature, which used to be available to 5000+ guests, now limited to what, 200? Shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted October 31, 2015 #18 Share Posted October 31, 2015 It's not you per se. It's that to give you more, Royal is taking away things that were available to all. Most non-suiters are probably OK with you getting more as long as it doesn't mean we're getting less. When it does, then it's a problem. Good example: the new suites-only sun deck/lounge/bar above the Solarium on Oasis class. More for you, not less for me, winner winner. Unlike the Viking Crown, a signature feature, which used to be available to 5000+ guests, now limited to what, 200? Shameful. But, from what I've read (not personal experience), it seems that a huge portion of those 5000+ guests never even stepped foot in the VCL on Oasis Class. I've seen posts about it being underutilized time and time again. I think that was the problem. On the smaller ships, I think its a different story. Here's hoping that the VCL's remain on any classes below Oasis. To me, it seems like the VCL is a key part of the smaller-than-Oasis ships. Didn't seem like it was that way on the Oasis and Allure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setting sail for fun Posted October 31, 2015 #19 Share Posted October 31, 2015 It's not you per se. It's that to give you more, Royal is taking away things that were available to all. Most non-suiters are probably OK with you getting more as long as it doesn't mean we're getting less. When it does, then it's a problem. Good example: the new suites-only sun deck/lounge/bar above the Solarium on Oasis class. More for you, not less for me, winner winner. Unlike the Viking Crown, a signature feature, which used to be available to 5000+ guests, now limited to what, 200? Shameful. I could'nt have said it better myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerxspeedy Posted November 1, 2015 #20 Share Posted November 1, 2015 But, from what I've read (not personal experience), it seems that a huge portion of those 5000+ guests never even stepped foot in the VCL on Oasis Class. I've seen posts about it being underutilized time and time again. I think that was the problem. On the smaller ships, I think its a different story. Here's hoping that the VCL's remain on any classes below Oasis. To me, it seems like the VCL is a key part of the smaller-than-Oasis ships. Didn't seem like it was that way on the Oasis and Allure. I agree that the VCLs were underutilized on oasis and allure. The new Builds all have eliminated VCLs. 3 Quantum and 4 Oasis ships - 7 so far, not just 2 ships. We will miss this space if we cruise on the new ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadah Posted November 2, 2015 #21 Share Posted November 2, 2015 We would be very disappointed if the VCL went away on all of the ships. It is probably the place that we enjoy most on our cruises and we enjoy it on a daily basis whether its for a sale away or a before dinner drink. The past couple of cruises we've been on its been a pretty busy place. We have been on 2 Princess cruises and won't go on any more because they don't have anything comparable to VCL available to regular passengers. When we asked where we could have a drink with an ocean view we were told to go out on deck... IN THE RAIN. We use this space as a gathering place at the end of the day when we cruise with family or friends. We're looking forward to enjoying the VCL on the Indy 11/30 sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMVigs Posted November 3, 2015 #22 Share Posted November 3, 2015 We would be very disappointed if the VCL went away on all of the ships. It is probably the place that we enjoy most on our cruises and we enjoy it on a daily basis whether its for a sale away or a before dinner drink. The past couple of cruises we've been on its been a pretty busy place. We have been on 2 Princess cruises and won't go on any more because they don't have anything comparable to VCL available to regular passengers. When we asked where we could have a drink with an ocean view we were told to go out on deck... IN THE RAIN. We use this space as a gathering place at the end of the day when we cruise with family or friends. We're looking forward to enjoying the VCL on the Indy 11/30 sailing. Slywalker's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted November 3, 2015 #23 Share Posted November 3, 2015 But, from what I've read (not personal experience), it seems that a huge portion of those 5000+ guests never even stepped foot in the VCL on Oasis Class. I've seen posts about it being underutilized time and time again. I think that was the problem. On the smaller ships, I think its a different story. Here's hoping that the VCL's remain on any classes below Oasis. To me, it seems like the VCL is a key part of the smaller-than-Oasis ships. Didn't seem like it was that way on the Oasis and Allure. Our very first cruise was in 2013 on Freedom of the Seas. We loved the VCL. It was underutilized. I rarely counted more than five or six people there. We only went there during the day. Perhaps it was busier at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snappy68 Posted January 28, 2016 #24 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Does anyone know if the Viking Lounge is still on Freedom? It was still on Independence last summer and we are now thinking of doing Freedom this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted January 28, 2016 #25 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Does anyone know if the Viking Lounge is still on Freedom? It was still on Independence last summer and we are now thinking of doing Freedom this summer. The VCL is indeed on Freedom. The only ships that don't have the VCL are Oasis and Quantum Classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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