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Sure. I understand, and no offense as these are touchy subjects. But there are operational reasons that justify the ship not staying. The escorting of the passengers shoreside doesn't save Princess dockage fees. Note that my objection to "punishing" passengers is general, not this specific situation.

 

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No one is being held hostage by Princess - it is the fault of inconsiderate cruisers who think that they don't need to follow instructions.

 

As a B2B passenger you have 2 choices:

 

  • disembark the ship at your leisure (as long as you do it by the time the last passengers disembark) and return once boarding has started (the equivalent to what you have experienced on other lines)
  • if you don't want to go ashore, follow the instructions for clearing B2B passengers (report to a central location - like the theater - and be processed there or report to a central location, exit the ship, get processed in the terminal, and return to the ship).

Thanks for clarifying

it sounded in the posts like all B2B passengers had to assemble in the lounge

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I've read this entire thread with great delight!

 

Were the folks who were late complete jerks? Yes.

 

Has everyone, in the theater and here, overreacted? Yes.

 

Just use your brains for a second. Dija miss a flight? Were you just about to find the fountain of youth and it dried up 4 seconds before you made it there?

 

No.

 

Relax people, it was a turn around day.

 

What were you planning on doing? Making the beds and helping load luggage? :D

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WOW. I wonder if either of these ladies were the same person yelling at the handicapped gentleman to sit down while he tried to find a seat. Amazing how people develop a total lack of humanity. The word "entitlement" doesn't even begin to describe these people.

 

Those were not ladies, women yes, but certainly not ladies.

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I've read this entire thread with great delight!

 

Were the folks who were late complete jerks? Yes.

 

Has everyone, in the theater and here, overreacted? Yes.

 

Just use your brains for a second. Dija miss a flight? Were you just about to find the fountain of youth and it dried up 4 seconds before you made it there?

 

No.

 

Relax people, it was a turn around day.

 

What were you planning on doing? Making the beds and helping load luggage? :D

No, but maybe I was planning on sitting by the pool relaxing rather than waiting 45 minutes for people who think their life is more important than the rest of ours. I guess you just don't mind being stepped on.

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Sure. I understand, and no offense as these are touchy subjects. But there are operational reasons that justify the ship not staying. The escorting of the passengers shoreside doesn't save Princess dockage fees. Note that my objection to "punishing" passengers is general, not this specific situation.

 

Keep in mind that failure to comply with the timeline does have the potential to impact dockage fees and other expenses. Any delay in clearing the ship, can delay embarkation which, if long enough could certainly result in additional costs.

 

My own view is it should be treated like any other failure to follow the directions of ship personnel. As in case of people not going to safety drills, being back on ship on time, etc. an egregious case should be the person and their belongings being escorted off of the ship and not allowed to continue.

 

The instructions during a back to back is very clear. You are given an in transit card. You can leave the ship with those disembarking or you can stay on board. If you leave you must do so prior to the assembly time for those remaining on board.

 

On the recent B2B that I have been on they have scanned my card when I arrive at the theater. That way they know exactly who is missing. A friend of mine on a cruise had to go back to their room for the intransit card and passport before they got the the theater. When they got to their room they were about 10 minute late, they had already been paged, when they were leaving their room their steward was approaching the door and told them that they were being looked for and needed to go to the theater immediately.

 

In their case disembarkation was on schedule so the group in the theater was waiting to leave. I have been on cruises where disembarkation was running behind so the group in the theater was delayed even when everyone was there.

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I read the phrase in red and thought that there is a lot to do on the ship on a turn around day. Yes, it all fits under the concept of relaxing and chilling out, and I can't really feel ready to start the day till the turn around "business" is completed. So yes, an hour spent waiting for people who can't read instructions or follow them is an hour of my vacation wasted.

 

The Customs inspection is a pain under the best of circumstances. It is rude for other cruisers to make it worse.

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I've read this entire thread with great delight!

 

Were the folks who were late complete jerks? Yes.

 

Has everyone, in the theater and here, overreacted? Yes.

 

Just use your brains for a second. Dija miss a flight? Were you just about to find the fountain of youth and it dried up 4 seconds before you made it there?

 

No.

 

Relax people, it was a turn around day.

 

What were you planning on doing? Making the beds and helping load luggage? :D

 

I don't think everyone in the theater or here has overreacted. You must not value your time very much. Others do, however. The people in the theater certainly might have had many other things they wanted to do and should not have been forced to wait for the inconsiderate people.

 

Now, I was returning to Houston on a cruise and we were stuck outside the port for 3 hours due to fog. There, people were missing flights. But, it was the weather. Under such circumstances, the only thing to do is relax and if necessary, try to rebook your flight. We had a late flight, so we were stuck and could only wait-with no big worries.

 

Waiting on a bunch of inconsiderate slobs, on the other hand, is not something we should just have to accept.

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There has to be some sort of stick on these people. A $$ fine, well-advertised in advance with the conditions spelled out (i.e., more than 15 minutes late) will stop a lot of this. Some people of course will not be stopped, even if they are fined. But they deserve some punishment. There should be an appeal process, to be fair; i.e., "I fainted in a deck chair."

Yes, these latecomers would bother me! As they do everywhere in life.

Years ago, my parents had a land tour in Spain. One young solo woman was late back to the bus at every single stop. The guide finally told her, "If you do it again, we will take off without you." She was bringing down everybody's tour. After that, she did it again, and the bus left without her. She showed up at the hotel for that night, of course, somehow. And she was never late again!

These entitled people need to get some consequences for their actions.

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It is also quite possible that some of those people were up on the Lido deck in their bathing suits sunning themselves...they would have to be escorted back to their rooms to change, which would take some time.

 

This is exactly what happened to us. A couple was late to the party and showed up wearing their swim garb. What we did was give them a standing O and they bowed and apologized. Just a different way of handling this. It was not an hour in our case, but over 30 minutes.:(

 

When we got to the "holding tank" that morning, we were told where to sit and when we the process was through, we were told to leave row by row. Well guess what, others who were behind us tried to jump the line. They were told to sit down and wait their turn. :):)

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Some of the latecomers might think, "Oh, I'll get there late, after the line is down." They may not realize everybody is just in a holding pattern till every last body is there. Nothing can start till every single person is there. You really have to spell things out for some people. Might even say, "If you come late, the whole audience may boo you - it's been known to happen." :)

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i've read this entire thread with great delight!

 

Were the folks who were late complete jerks? Yes.

 

Has everyone, in the theater and here, overreacted? Yes.

 

Just use your brains for a second. Dija miss a flight? Were you just about to find the fountain of youth and it dried up 4 seconds before you made it there?

 

No.

 

Relax people, it was a turn around day.

 

What were you planning on doing? Making the beds and helping load luggage? :d

 

 

+1.

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I've read this entire thread with great delight!

 

Were the folks who were late complete jerks? Yes.

 

Has everyone, in the theater and here, overreacted? Yes.

 

Just use your brains for a second. Dija miss a flight? Were you just about to find the fountain of youth and it dried up 4 seconds before you made it there?

 

No.

 

Relax people, it was a turn around day.

 

What were you planning on doing? Making the beds and helping load luggage? :D

 

There's a lot to do if you want to. Hot tubs empty ,pools empty, no line ups, Relax in your own environment , not sitting in a theater with 500 other people is the best reason.

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There's a lot to do if you want to...not sitting in a theater with 500 other people is the best reason.

 

Or even worse, standing with 400 other people for an hour (while another 400 sat in chairs) in the luggage/immigration area of the terminal as happened to us in 2014 in Fort Lauderdale. DH and I had no problem standing but some of our fellow passengers were obviously having a rough time.

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I don't think everyone in the theater or here has overreacted. You must not value your time very much. Others do, however. The people in the theater certainly might have had many other things they wanted to do and should not have been forced to wait for the inconsiderate people.

 

Now, I was returning to Houston on a cruise and we were stuck outside the port for 3 hours due to fog. There, people were missing flights. But, it was the weather. Under such circumstances, the only thing to do is relax and if necessary, try to rebook your flight. We had a late flight, so we were stuck and could only wait-with no big worries.

 

Waiting on a bunch of inconsiderate slobs, on the other hand, is not something we should just have to accept.

 

I was in that theater the OP is talking about and the over reaction was pitiful!

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I don't think everyone in the theater or here has overreacted. You must not value your time very much. Others do, however. The people in the theater certainly might have had many other things they wanted to do and should not have been forced to wait for the inconsiderate people.

 

Now, I was returning to Houston on a cruise and we were stuck outside the port for 3 hours due to fog. There, people were missing flights. But, it was the weather. Under such circumstances, the only thing to do is relax and if necessary, try to rebook your flight. We had a late flight, so we were stuck and could only wait-with no big worries.

 

Waiting on a bunch of inconsiderate slobs, on the other hand, is not something we should just have to accept.

 

Totally agree with your assessment. People have a tendency to make excuses for others.

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I was in that theater the OP is talking about and the over reaction was pitiful!

 

I do not mean to pick on you, but suppose the late people had been 5 hours late. Would you of been upset? What about 8 hours, would you of been upset? And if so, how would you of reacted? There might of been an over reaction, but I would like to think that this reaction would of left an indelible mark on the late people such that they would not be late ever again.

 

BTW, my cut off is 15 minutes, if someone is late after 15 minutes under most circumstances, I move on, if I can. Unfortunately there were a lot of folks essentially restricted to the theater until the late people showed up.

 

AS a side note, my younger brother was always the last one to show up to everything. I think it was a power trip on his part. Very rude. I now do not plan on doing anything with him for that reason, I do not like those whom do not respect my time.

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i do not mean to pick on you, but suppose the late people had been 5 hours late. Would you of been upset? What about 8 hours, would you of been upset? And if so, how would you of reacted? There might of been an over reaction, but i would like to think that this reaction would of left an indelible mark on the late people such that they would not be late ever again.

 

Btw, my cut off is 15 minutes, if someone is late after 15 minutes under most circumstances, i move on, if i can. Unfortunately there were a lot of folks essentially restricted to the theater until the late people showed up.

 

As a side note, my younger brother was always the last one to show up to everything. I think it was a power trip on his part. Very rude. I now do not plan on doing anything with him for that reason, i do not like those whom do not respect my time.

 

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We were there. We waited in the showroom for over an hour waiting on people who should have shown up at least within 30 minutes of the set time which was 10AM. Even after they were called over the system, they took their time to get there and then seemed like it was nothing. Maybe they should be asked why they were late and explain it to the people who were waiting for over an hour.

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If nothing had been said when they arrived the 12 people would have though that everything was wonderful & they'll do the same thing again next cruise.

At least they now know that a majority of the hundreds of people waiting on them to arrive were pissed. :cool:

 

And, probably more importantly, they, and everyone else who was in the theater, now understands that behavior of this type only leads to public embarrassment and ridicule.

 

What a lot of folks, those who do not like to see anyone criticized because of their behavior, should understand is that acquiescence to behavior of this type will only encourage behavior like this in the future.

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A mob of people created an infantile tantrum that created more angst and anger that could have evolved in a serious melee.

 

I was annoyed at the latecomers for wasting my time but cannot condone the behavior nor did I participate in the behavior the crowd in the theater exhibited that day.

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