watson50 Posted February 13, 2016 #1 Share Posted February 13, 2016 hi everybody.our local news here in n.y. tells us Anthem had to change its port azipod propeller.how does that happen when not in a dry dock.I understand internal azipod problems can usually be repaired from within the ship,but how do they do the prop while in port? c'mon,somebody amaze me. was on Anthem nov.30-dec.12.fantastic time.26x cruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted February 13, 2016 #2 Share Posted February 13, 2016 hi everybody.our local news here in n.y. tells us Anthem had to change its port azipod propeller.how does that happen when not in a dry dock.I understand internal azipod problems can usually be repaired from within the ship,but how do they do the prop while in port? c'mon,somebody amaze me. was on Anthem nov.30-dec.12.fantastic time.26x cruiser They changed the clutches in the Azipods not the propellor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted February 13, 2016 #3 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Your local news is wrong. That is one way that it happens without a dry-docking. Edited February 13, 2016 by Ocean Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killtheump Posted February 13, 2016 #4 Share Posted February 13, 2016 They changed the clutches in the Azipods not the propellor. This is what they did! Maybe that the Local News in NY was wrong will amaze you!;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicbuffalo Posted February 13, 2016 #5 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The news is yellow journalism at best.....no such thing as investigative reporting anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjrpar Posted February 13, 2016 #6 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The news is yellow journalism at best.....no such thing as investigative reporting anymore. Sad but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 13, 2016 #7 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Actually, changing a propeller in the water is not that uncommon. When Freedom lost a bearing in one pod, in order to reduce drag, since the propeller had to be locked from rotating (to keep from totally destroying the bearing), divers came and removed the blades and the hub presents little resistance or drag. It is just as easy to re-install propeller blades in the water. I'm not saying this is easy, there are about 2 diving companies in the world that will do this, and it takes time to stage the equipment and a good day to just remove the blades. Anthem did not renew blades or propellers. An early article "quoted" a USCG spokesman as saying the "pod was replaced". You don't, over the life of the vessel, replace a pod. That is a major undertaking in a drydock. One of my ships had a stern thruster that was leaking oil. We had the manufacturer's rep come onboard, with a crew of divers, who took the propeller completely off this thruster while in port, and when we needed to get underway, they would lash everything down tight inside the thruster tunnel, and away we would go. It took them a week, and 5 port calls to complete the totally underwater repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat sailer Posted February 13, 2016 #8 Share Posted February 13, 2016 So last century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 13, 2016 #9 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Please check the active threads before starting a new one. This has been covered over and over. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kearney Posted February 14, 2016 #10 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Actually, changing a propeller in the water is not that uncommon. When Freedom lost a bearing in one pod, in order to reduce drag, since the propeller had to be locked from rotating (to keep from totally destroying the bearing), divers came and removed the blades and the hub presents little resistance or drag. It is just as easy to re-install propeller blades in the water. I'm not saying this is easy, there are about 2 diving companies in the world that will do this, and it takes time to stage the equipment and a good day to just remove the blades. Anthem did not renew blades or propellers. An early article "quoted" a USCG spokesman as saying the "pod was replaced". You don't, over the life of the vessel, replace a pod. That is a major undertaking in a drydock. One of my ships had a stern thruster that was leaking oil. We had the manufacturer's rep come onboard, with a crew of divers, who took the propeller completely off this thruster while in port, and when we needed to get underway, they would lash everything down tight inside the thruster tunnel, and away we would go. It took them a week, and 5 port calls to complete the totally underwater repair. The fact that the ship is underway, essentially on time. Does that suggest the issues were 'relatively minor' or can we now include the USCG in this conspiracy to put passengers lives at risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted February 14, 2016 #11 Share Posted February 14, 2016 The fact that the ship is underway, essentially on time. Does that suggest the issues were 'relatively minor' or can we now include the USCG in this conspiracy to put passengers lives at risk? Well, they are the government, after all. :D Time to don the tinfoil hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted February 14, 2016 #12 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Well, they are the government, after all. :D Time to don the tinfoil hats. Maybe that congressman from Florida could ask the NTSB to investigate the Coast Guard too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted February 14, 2016 #13 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Well, they are the government, after all. :D Time to don the tinfoil hats. OK, you had me laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseNTheWorld91 Posted February 14, 2016 #14 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Your local news is wrong. That is one way that it happens without a dry-docking. Seems to be happening more and more when it comes to reporting on this story. They all want to report dramatic details but can't tell us anything useful or accurate about the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWOL Posted February 14, 2016 #15 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Your local news is wrong. That is one way that it happens without a dry-docking. Do not have to dry dock to change props on a lot of the newer ships. Have been involved in doing it with divers a few times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclop Posted February 14, 2016 #16 Share Posted February 14, 2016 A new ship having so many problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnetpalmetto Posted February 14, 2016 #17 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Well, they are the government, after all. :D Time to don the tinfoil hats. Alright, which member of the boards is this? Fess up, whomever you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robtulipe Posted February 14, 2016 #18 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) A new ship having so many problems. I believe this could likely be the results of sailing in a hurricane type storm which has a tendency of stressing all systems both mechanically and staff onboard. :D Edited February 14, 2016 by robtulipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted February 14, 2016 #19 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Do not have to dry dock to change props on a lot of the newer ships. Have been involved in doing it with divers a few times I Know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watson50 Posted February 14, 2016 Author #20 Share Posted February 14, 2016 thanks for the info on that.do you know of any videos about this topic? especially underwater.thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loubetti Posted February 14, 2016 #21 Share Posted February 14, 2016 thanks for the info on that.do you know of any videos about this topic? especially underwater.thanks Um... Google is your friend. Try to look one up yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted February 14, 2016 #22 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) The fact that the ship is underway, essentially on time. Does that suggest the issues were 'relatively minor' or can we now include the USCG in this conspiracy to put passengers lives at risk? No to both. Quickly repaired once in port is not necessarily minor. I don't know enough to know if the azipod related repairs could have been done while underway. But even if so, I don't think the seriousness of damage is entirely determined by how quickly it can be repaired. I don't know of an organization more devoted to saving and protecting lives in maritime environments. Edited February 14, 2016 by broberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted February 14, 2016 #23 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Well, they are the government, after all. :D Time to don the tinfoil hats. Watch it there, bud! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watson50 Posted February 15, 2016 Author #24 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) Um... Google is your friend. Try to look one up yourself. yo Lou,why don't you trim your prop a little. I know all about Google. Being a past cruiser this stuff to me is very interesting .Sometimes one can get info right from the place of origin, ie: dock worker,repair team,and believe it or knot.pun intended,sometimes from RCCL itself.so why don't you dump some av/GAS and land.oh, and Lou,make sure your gear is down and locked. Edited February 15, 2016 by watson50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loubetti Posted February 15, 2016 #25 Share Posted February 15, 2016 yo Lou,why don't you trim your prop a little. I know all about Google. Being a past cruiser this stuff to me is very interesting .Sometimes one can get info right from the place of origin, ie: dock worker,repair team,and believe it or knot.pun intended,sometimes from RCCL itself.so why don't you dump some av/GAS and land.oh, and Lou,make sure your gear is down and locked. Ummm.. we don't "trim" the props, we trim the aircraft for level flight. Otherwise, I dismiss you! Bye, bye. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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