Boscodog Posted March 29, 2016 #1 Share Posted March 29, 2016 How can Celebrity not cancel Turkish Ports of call after this warning issued today : The U.S. Department of State warns U.S. citizens of increased threats from terrorist groups throughout Turkey and to avoid travel to southeastern Turkey. Effective March 29, 2016, the Department of State ordered the departure of family members of U.S. government personnel posted to U.S. Consulate in Adana and family members of U.S. government civilians in Izmir and Mugla provinces, and restricted official travel to Turkey to “mission-critical” travel only. U.S. Consulate in Adana remains open and will provide all routine consular services. This Travel Warning replaces the Travel Warning dated March 17, 2016. Foreign and U.S. tourists have been explicitly targeted by international and indigenous terrorist organizations. U.S. citizens are reminded to review personal security plans and remain vigilant at all times. U.S. government personnel in Turkey remain subject to travel restrictions in southeastern provinces of Hatay, Kilis, Gaziantep, Sanliurfa, Sirnak, Diyarbakir, Van, Siirt, Mus, Mardin, Batman, Bingol, Tunceli, Hakkari, Bitlis, and Elazig. U.S. citizens should avoid areas in close proximity to the Syrian border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare C-Dragons Posted March 29, 2016 #2 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) I was just remarking about this on my Roll Call for Oct. If and when X does cancel the rest of our Turkish ports, we'll just roll with the tide and go wherever the ship goes. Edited March 29, 2016 by C-Dragons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayneykul Posted March 29, 2016 #3 Share Posted March 29, 2016 There are only 2 7 day cruises in the med we can do this summer but both either begin or end in Istanbul. Will wait and see what happens for now as rather nervous to book either of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karynanne Posted March 29, 2016 #4 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I was just remarking about this on my Roll Call for Oct.If and when X does cancel the rest of our Turkish ports, we'll just roll with the tide and go wherever the ship goes. We feel the same, Sherry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Junky Posted March 29, 2016 #5 Share Posted March 29, 2016 The warning is for Southeastern Turkey. It's also still a warning not an Alert. Let us know when Celebrity starts adding ports close to the Syrian Border :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az_tchr Posted March 29, 2016 #6 Share Posted March 29, 2016 The warning is for an area about 400 miles away. Nothing near Istanbul. It is Eastern Turkey. Understand everyone has a different comfort level and will just say DW and I are heading to Spain and France is 2 weeks. If we give in to terrorists they win. terrorism is alive and unfortunately well worldwide. Australia, Canada and the USA have had incidents as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted March 29, 2016 #7 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Actually, the US Gov't. just told ALL US citizens to get the hell out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscodog Posted March 29, 2016 Author #8 Share Posted March 29, 2016 The warning is for an area about 400 miles away. Nothing near Istanbul. It is Eastern Turkey. Understand everyone has a different comfort level and will just say DW and I are heading to Spain and France is 2 weeks. If we give in to terrorists they win. terrorism is alive and unfortunately well worldwide. Australia, Canada and the USA have had incidents as well. One of the areas that the state department is evacuating is Izmir which is a little more than an hour away from Kusadesi. I am not cancelling my trip but it is definitely putting a damper on the excitement. We have been planning this bucket list trip for over a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Junky Posted March 29, 2016 #9 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Actually, the US Gov't. just told ALL US citizens to get the hell out of there. Source please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscodog Posted March 29, 2016 Author #10 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Source please ? I did not write the original post but here is a link to Washington Post article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/03/29/pentagon-and-state-department-order-family-members-of-u-s-troops-and-diplomats-to-leave-turkey/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_turkey-110pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Junky Posted March 29, 2016 #11 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I did not write the original post but here is a link to Washington Post article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/03/29/pentagon-and-state-department-order-family-members-of-u-s-troops-and-diplomats-to-leave-turkey/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_turkey-110pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory Thank you for posting but if you read the last paragraph it again is referring to south east turkey and it would make sense that US military bases close to the border would be a target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscodog Posted March 29, 2016 Author #12 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) Thank you for posting but if you read the last paragraph it again is referring to south east turkey and it would make sense that US military bases close to the border would be a target. I do agree that there is a larger threat near the Syrian border, however in the following paragraph: The State Department warned earlier this month of increased threats by terrorist groups throughout Turkey and advised Americans not to travel to southeastern Turkey, closer to Syria and Iraq. The terrorist threats throughout Turkey (especially tourist areas) will have Celebrity and other cruise lines to change itineraries. This will probably increase bookings Edited March 29, 2016 by Boscodog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north29 Posted March 29, 2016 #13 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) Getting killed by a Texting driver or distracted driver is more of a problem and the governments state and National does not seem to care. Only this morning on the way to my spa, I was almost wasted by a driver texting, I had to drive off the road to miss him. Having said that, as mentioned above your comfort level of safety is likely to create issues with many people and cruise lines are no business exceptions, canceling a port or country is a probability. Edited March 29, 2016 by north29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drarill Posted March 29, 2016 #14 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I was just remarking about this on my Roll Call for Oct.If and when X does cancel the rest of our Turkish ports, we'll just roll with the tide and go wherever the ship goes. Same with us...We booked the Reflection after they changed the itinerary that included the overnight in Istanbul because we have done the original route twice. I'm wondering where they will take us if Bodrum and Kusadasi are cancelled too.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Junky Posted March 29, 2016 #15 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Same with us...We booked the Reflection after they changed the itinerary that included the overnight in Istanbul because we have done the original route twice. I'm wondering where they will take us if Bodrum and Kusadasi are cancelled too.:confused: I'm also wondering how much more my onboard bill will be with no Turkish stops :(. If we don't leave the EU I believe VAT kicks in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzintiger Posted March 29, 2016 #16 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I believe a warning is more serious than an alert. Both of the provinces in which they are evacuating US family members border the province that Kusadasi is in. We are scheduled to be there in early June. I refuse to be terrorized however I also believe in common sense. Celebrity should cancel these ports until the warnings are lifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drarill Posted March 29, 2016 #17 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I'm also wondering how much more my onboard bill will be with no Turkish stops :(. If we don't leave the EU I believe VAT kicks in We had the same problem last year on the Equinox. My husband was happy because I didn't spend too much money onboard. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rou-Dyliq Posted March 29, 2016 #18 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Thank you for posting but if you read the last paragraph it again is referring to south east turkey and it would make sense that US military bases close to the border would be a target. If you look at it a little closer, it also includes the Mugla province, which is where Bodrum is, and the Izmir province, which is where Ephesus is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Junky Posted March 29, 2016 #19 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) If you look at it a little closer, it also includes the Mugla province, which is where Bodrum is, and the Izmir province, which is where Ephesus is. Kusadasi is in Aydin Province but yes, Ephesus is in Izmir. But they're not bases. There is no general get out - there is obviously been some intelligence received about a threat against a base. The Izmir Province is 4,623 sq miles Edited March 29, 2016 by Cruise Junky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killarneylady Posted March 29, 2016 #20 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I would still prefer if they cancelled the two Turkish ports. I'm travelling with two kids and intend staying onboard if we do stop. I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable getting on a bus and travelling to Ephesus. I feel that those two days are wasted for me. It mightn't make sense to feel that way and I may be over reacting but as the time nears Im losing any inclination at all to disembark and explore. I love a port where you can stroll and browse and feel totally at ease. Initially I thought, when booking, that by the time summer came, things would have eased. But I don't think that's the case unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChucktownSteve Posted March 29, 2016 #21 Share Posted March 29, 2016 If I go to Turkey am I more likely to be hit by lightning or a terrorist attack? I want factual numbers only please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlaturne Posted March 30, 2016 #22 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Source please ? Source is Pentagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Junky Posted March 30, 2016 #23 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Source is Pentagon Yes. Discussed on the first page. An alert for bases not for the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14ersco Posted March 30, 2016 #24 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Sources: European Command: http://eucom.dodlive.mil/2016/03/state-department-and-dod-approve-departure-of-dependents-from-turkey/ Dept of Defense: http://www.defense.gov/News-Article-View/Article/707587/us-authorizes-ordered-departure-of-dod-dependents-from-turkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise kitty Posted March 30, 2016 #25 Share Posted March 30, 2016 This is the equivalent of not traveling to Newport Beach because Fresno is a hellhole. People are being pulled from bases far from where the average cruiser would be going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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