iancal Posted July 19, 2016 #26 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) On our last two RCI cruises, Med (oct) and Aus/NZ (march) we found the demographics to be the same as Celebrity and similar to HAL. But, these were smaller RCI ships, not big ones, and it was outside of prime vacation time. The Med cruise was first rate-as good as the best Celebrity, HAL, and Princess cruises( in all respects) that we have enjoyed. The Diamond lounge/benefits made them even better. It was where we had breakfast each morning and pre dinner drinks in the evening. Edited July 19, 2016 by iancal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted July 19, 2016 #27 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I don't either, but I do see Celebrity as a direct competitor. We've traveled in "entry-level" suites on both lines (Sky Suite and Signature Suite). We are 3-star Mariners and "Elite" category with Celebrity. Celebrity offers major incentives for passengers to move up to the suite experience and we love all the extra perks (given even at that entry level) so we continue to book their suites. On HAL, the only benefit was a bit more space, so we did not bother to book a suite for our next cruise. HAL is charging its high-end suite passengers who qualify for the Neptune Lounge for a drink at an honor bar? I was so surprised to read that today. . Yes, it was there on our last cruise. It's a nice set up but drinks are a full price. No happy hour prices,etc. It's just a matter of convenience I think for get togethers and parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon1 Posted July 19, 2016 #28 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Wonder how long this will last. People will cheat the system, and HAL will pull the plug on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted July 19, 2016 #29 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Wonder how long this will last. People will cheat the system, and HAL will pull the plug on it. It's only there when the concierges are and they were watching and also pouring drinks. I don't think there are a lot of "cheating" options. It's just an option on board. And a nice one for those that might be chatting or whatever. They also used it for a Suite party one night. Last cruise was our first time to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrimpboat123 Posted July 20, 2016 #30 Share Posted July 20, 2016 It's only there when the concierges are and they were watching and also pouring drinks. I don't think there are a lot of "cheating" options. It's just an option on board. And a nice one for those that might be chatting or whatever. They also used it for a Suite party one night. Last cruise was our first time to see it. I wonder if the drinks in the Neptune Lounge are covered by the SBP? Does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old As Dirt Mom Posted July 20, 2016 #31 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I wonder if the drinks in the Neptune Lounge are covered by the SBP? Does anyone know? According to KK's post #6 of this thread, the answer is no. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=49892256&postcount=6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted July 20, 2016 #32 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) RCI not a competitor with HAL? For our age, RCI certainly is, as are a number of other cruise lines including, but not limited, to Celebrity, Carnival, etc. Based on the demographics of our last two RCI cruises I would say that they are competitor. And if HAL does not think so that may point to a larger issue at HAL. Very much depends on the ship and the itinerary. Short list on our last Med cruise included HAL and Princess. We chose RCI because it was a one way from Rome-Barcelona, had a some ports that we wanted, and great one way cruise air home. We enjoyed the cruise so much we shopped them again in Australia. No children at home, in our early sixties, and travel frequently. As were the vast majority of fellow cruisers on both cruises. No drunks, no wild parties, but lots grey hair and many well travelled people...at least ones that we met. As many tuxs' and long gowns as we have seen on any cruise line ( at least in the Diamond lounge, optional dining venue, bars, and public areas of the ship) with the exception of Crystal. Never made it to Bingo or to the climbing wall...if they had one. Those cruises changed our opinion of RCI or at least our opinion of those RCI ships. The new huge ships do not appeal to us but we may try one out at some point just to experience one for ourselves. Edited July 20, 2016 by iancal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNKY Posted July 20, 2016 #33 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Disney's Concierge Lounge even has complimentary alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted July 20, 2016 #34 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) I wonder if the drinks in the Neptune Lounge are covered by the SBP? Does anyone know? You have to sign for your drinks, (charged to the room) so I don't see how they would be covered by SBP. Similar to signing for water when you get off the ship and not being able to use your beverage card. I would ask on board though since things can change ;) Edited July 20, 2016 by kazu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSR Posted July 20, 2016 #35 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) I wonder if the drinks in the Neptune Lounge are covered by the SBP? Does anyone know? Post #9 in this thread says you can use your SBP card, at least on the Oosterdam on the poster's cruise. May vary, I suppose... Edited July 20, 2016 by PSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted July 20, 2016 #36 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Post #9 in this thread says you can use your SBP card, at least on the Oosterdam on the poster's cruise. May vary, I suppose... That would be great! However, I will believe it when I see it as I think it would be hard for them to set this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrimpboat123 Posted July 20, 2016 #37 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Post #9 in this thread says you can use your SBP card, at least on the Oosterdam on the poster's cruise. May vary, I suppose... That would be great! However, I will believe it when I see it as I think it would be hard for them to set this up. Whether you buy a drink in the bar with your SPB card our someone adds the drink to your account from the Neptune Lounge, the system knows who has SPB and you should be able to get them to credit the amount. I'll be questioning them on our cruise which has the SPB promo next year. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted July 21, 2016 #38 Share Posted July 21, 2016 RCI does have a very generous liquor policy in their Diamond, Diamond Plus, etc lounges. And you do not have to buy a suite. It is an entitlement based on past cruises-either RCI or Celebrity. The big BUT is that we find RCI liquor prices to be among the highest of all the cruise lines that we have been on. Certainly higher across the board than either HAL or Princess. Plus, RCI price everything in USD or at least they did on the cruises that we enjoyed. This served to further increase the cost to us vis a vis other cruise lines operating from the same port...in our case Sydney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Girl Posted July 21, 2016 #39 Share Posted July 21, 2016 We had an honor bar in the NL on the Oo'dam in January, but I don't think it came out until late afternoon. I think how hard the concierge wants to work, combined with how many people ask why it's not out, may determine availability. That being said, I got hooked a couple cruises ago on the HAL Tanqueray 10 Signature Martini. Give me a good bartender and a SBP! :) We will be on the Oosterdam in November, so that is one more thing to look forward to. And, we also have been hooked on the Tanqueray 10's - my favorite gin or vodka martini. Do they actually make them from Tanqueray gin and Tanqueray 10 vodka on the HAL ships? I never saw one made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardboy Posted July 21, 2016 #40 Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) We will be on the Oosterdam in November, so that is one more thing to look forward to. And, we also have been hooked on the Tanqueray 10's - my favorite gin or vodka martini. Do they actually make them from Tanqueray gin and Tanqueray 10 vodka on the HAL ships? I never saw one made. They do. I've watched more of mine made than I probably should admit. Here's their recipe: Holland America Line's Tanqueray 0010 (Double O Ten) martini Serves 1 Ingredients: -- 1/8 oz. Grand Marnier -- 1 oz. Tanqueray Ten Gin -- 1 oz. Vox Vodka Garnish: Long, orange twist tied with a loose knot Preparation: Rinse a pint shaker glass with Grand Marnier and dump the excess. Fill the glass with ice and measure in gin and vodka. Shake well and strain into chilled martini glass. Garnish the rim of the martini glass with the orange twist. Cheers! If too "orangey" or sweet, they're taking a short cut and just pouring some GM in and shaking it up along with the gin and vodka. Edited July 21, 2016 by blizzardboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted July 22, 2016 #41 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) They do. I've watched more of mine made than I probably should admit. Here's their recipe: Holland America Line's Tanqueray 0010 (Double O Ten) martini Serves 1 Ingredients: -- 1/8 oz. Grand Marnier -- 1 oz. Tanqueray Ten Gin -- 1 oz. Vox Vodka Garnish: Long, orange twist tied with a loose knot Preparation: Rinse a pint shaker glass with Grand Marnier and dump the excess. Fill the glass with ice and measure in gin and vodka. Shake well and strain into chilled martini glass. Garnish the rim of the martini glass with the orange twist. Cheers! If too "orangey" or sweet, they're taking a short cut and just pouring some GM in and shaking it up along with the gin and vodka. Try as they iwll never pleasseall THr peopl e All the time. iIf a suite guest p[refers 'X', They certainly have the choice to book '" them RATHER THAN HAL. Why should we expect all cruise lines should be the sa me ofer the same/?aS SOMEONE WHO has sailed Nep[tune suites since Statendam first joined the fleet,I applaaud Hal FOR THIS CHANGE. i think it a positive improvement Edited July 22, 2016 by sail7seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted July 22, 2016 #42 Share Posted July 22, 2016 At the end of the day it is just another revenue opportunity minus the bartender/server costs. Do they add a gratuity charge on to this self serve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardboy Posted July 22, 2016 #43 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) Try as they iwll never pleasseall THr peopl e All the time. iIf a suite guest p[refers 'X', They certainly have the choice to book '" them RATHER THAN HAL. Why should we expect all cruise lines should be the sa me ofer the same/?aS SOMEONE WHO has sailed Nep[tune suites since Statendam first joined the fleet,I applaaud Hal FOR THIS CHANGE. i think it a positive improvement I applaud the honor bar in the NL, and I don't always drink the same thing. I was being a bit silly in the earlier post regarding "give me a drink pkg", etc. I was missing my favorite HAL martini. I've been a Marriott customer for most of my life and love their Concierge Lounges with the honor bar. Skip the Happy Hour hub bub and pour a stiff one! Edited July 22, 2016 by blizzardboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ2002 Posted July 22, 2016 #44 Share Posted July 22, 2016 On our last two RCI cruises, Med (oct) and Aus/NZ (march) we found the demographics to be the same as Celebrity and similar to HAL. But, these were smaller RCI ships, not big ones, and it was outside of prime vacation time. The Med cruise was first rate-as good as the best Celebrity, HAL, and Princess cruises( in all respects) that we have enjoyed. The Diamond lounge/benefits made them even better. It was where we had breakfast each morning and pre dinner drinks in the evening. Thanks for your comments on RCI. We've sailed Celebrity, HAL and Princess, but not RCI yet. It is always helpful to hear comments from recent passengers of a line we might not be familiar with. Often times on CC (various boards), people comment on one cruise line or another based on perceptions, and not actual experience. Good to have some first hand reports on RCI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa Girl Posted July 22, 2016 #45 Share Posted July 22, 2016 They do. I've watched more of mine made than I probably should admit. Here's their recipe: Holland America Line's Tanqueray 0010 (Double O Ten) martini Serves 1 Ingredients: -- 1/8 oz. Grand Marnier -- 1 oz. Tanqueray Ten Gin -- 1 oz. Vox Vodka Garnish: Long, orange twist tied with a loose knot Preparation: Rinse a pint shaker glass with Grand Marnier and dump the excess. Fill the glass with ice and measure in gin and vodka. Shake well and strain into chilled martini glass. Garnish the rim of the martini glass with the orange twist. Cheers! If too "orangey" or sweet, they're taking a short cut and just pouring some GM in and shaking it up along with the gin and vodka. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted July 22, 2016 #46 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) One thing we did not like about RCI was the high price of drinks and their pricing in USD also makes it expensive for us. We did two cruises. Princess and RCI, from Sydney last year. Two weeks in between them. The drink that we paid $8 AUD on Princess was priced at $10 and $12 USD on RCI. This prices translated to $12.50-$15 AUD. A significant difference that made the complementary drinks on RCI even more appreciated. But we still felt it was a rip off as did many of the Austraians on the cruise. Fortunately we do not drink very much. RCI may not compete with HAL in all markets but as a mass market cruise line they certainly do on select itineraries, select number of days. Edited July 22, 2016 by iancal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNKY Posted July 23, 2016 #47 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I find it VERY odd that drinks in the Neptune Lounge are NOT complimentary. The suite life on HAL is not very sweet. These days airlines, hotels and cruise lines are all upgrading the experience for their premium guests. An honor bar WITH a service charge is not the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted July 23, 2016 #48 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I find it VERY odd that drinks in the Neptune Lounge are NOT complimentary. The suite life on HAL is not very sweet. These days airlines, hotels and cruise lines are all upgrading the experience for their premium guests. An honor bar WITH a service charge is not the right direction. Well, it IS an improvement and a move in the right direction since there was no alcohol at all in the Neptune Lounge previously. One step at a time ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted July 23, 2016 #49 Share Posted July 23, 2016 At the end of the day it is just another revenue opportunity minus the bartender/server costs. Do they add a gratuity charge on to this self serve? Yes Go back to post #6 where I posted pictures and you will see at the bottom in one of the pictures the service charge note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardboy Posted July 23, 2016 #50 Share Posted July 23, 2016 At the end of the day it is just another revenue opportunity minus the bartender/server costs. A little cynical don't you think? It's a nice, quiet opportunity to have a drink in comfortable surroundings, away from the thundering herd. I don't need a bartender unless we want blender drinks or something exotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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