Ashland Posted February 24, 2017 #751 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Will RCI ever return to sailing out of Harwich again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 24, 2017 #752 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Will RCI ever return to sailing out of Harwich again ? Probably sometime between NOLA and SOCAL. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mconthehighseas Posted February 24, 2017 #753 Share Posted February 24, 2017 At the Harmony Inaugural Michael Bayley was asked about ships coming back to the West Coast. He said the door is open for discussion which is better than the "no" we've been hearing. Maybe it will happen one day... I think it will boil down to competition with other cruiselines. If they can retain their loyal following by avoiding west coast ports, which are expensive for many reasons, then they won't need to return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW Traveler Posted February 24, 2017 #754 Share Posted February 24, 2017 JS, including taxes and port fees, 2 persons, $4014. I don't usually post re fares booked, but this cruise featured 7 ports, including two overnights in the two Iceland ports. Inside staterooms started at $1099 pp. I could deal with a late release. How much later was it? Do you remember? So sorry, I totally misread your post, hence, the earlier response. The Vision of the Seas August 22nd transatlantic was released June 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted February 24, 2017 #755 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I think it will boil down to competition with other cruiselines. If they can retain their loyal following by avoiding west coast ports, which are expensive for many reasons, then they won't need to return So those of us on the west coast should stop being loyal if we want them to return :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalemt02 Posted February 24, 2017 #756 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I think it will boil down to competition with other cruiselines. If they can retain their loyal following by avoiding west coast ports, which are expensive for many reasons, then they won't need to return You guys will call me crazy. You guys will want me to be in a straight jacket for saying this. But I'm putting money a quantum class ship is coming to the west coast to do Alaska. I guarantee it. 1st is has to compete with a large size ship that NCL will put up in Alaska. And when the technology announcement was made Richard rain specifically mention both the Verazanno and Golden Gate Bridge. It's gonna happen folks. Just watch. Mark my word. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 24, 2017 #757 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Why is it expensive to cruise out of California, but not Seattle or Vancouver? Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted February 24, 2017 #758 Share Posted February 24, 2017 So those of us on the west coast should stop being loyal if we want them to return :confused: There has been a steady flow of loyal West Coast RCI customers over to Princess in the last 6 years. I'm surprised to hear that RCI now admits to making money onboard the MN and MA when they were home-ported in Los Angeles. That goes against their explanation for leaving/not returning that was stated at the time and since. We West Coast folks were told repeatedly that we did not spend enough money onboard to support the ships remaining in Los Angeles. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiiergirl Posted February 24, 2017 #759 Share Posted February 24, 2017 You guys will call me crazy. You guys will want me to be in a straight jacket for saying this. But I'm putting money a quantum class ship is coming to the west coast to do Alaska. I guarantee it. 1st is has to compete with a large size ship that NCL will put up in Alaska. And when the technology announcement was made Richard rain specifically mention both the Verazanno and Golden Gate Bridge. It's gonna happen folks. Just watch. Mark my word. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I could see that....but...which one do you think it would be? They are so enthused with Asia I don't think they would pull one from there. Are the new Pan Canal locks big enough to let Anthem through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 24, 2017 #760 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I could see that....but...which one do you think it would be? They are so enthused with Asia I don't think they would pull one from there. Are the new Pan Canal locks big enough to let Anthem through? Just have it do the Explorer run from Australia to Seattle and back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted February 24, 2017 #761 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I could see that....but...which one do you think it would be? They are so enthused with Asia I don't think they would pull one from there. Are the new Pan Canal locks big enough to let Anthem through? The locks are big enough, but that is not the problem. The ship would have to fit under the Bridge of Americas on the Pacific side. As John mentioned, it would probably be easier for a Quantum Class ship to come from Asia/Australia for the Alaska season, as Explorer is now doing out of Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiiergirl Posted February 24, 2017 #762 Share Posted February 24, 2017 The locks are big enough, but that is not the problem. The ship would have to fit under the Bridge of Americas on the Pacific side. As John mentioned, it would probably be easier for a Quantum Class ship to come from Asia/Australia for the Alaska season, as Explorer is now doing out of Seattle. Or do another "Around the Horn" that was so popular several years ago???:) Just curious as I had heard speculation from a reliable source that Adventure might be going to Bayonne and Freedom might be going to SJU.....so was wondering if that meant both AD & AN in Bayonne or if AD was "replacing" AN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopster95 Posted February 24, 2017 #763 Share Posted February 24, 2017 You guys will call me crazy. You guys will want me to be in a straight jacket for saying this. But I'm putting money a quantum class ship is coming to the west coast to do Alaska. I guarantee it. 1st is has to compete with a large size ship that NCL will put up in Alaska. And when the technology announcement was made Richard rain specifically mention both the Verazanno and Golden Gate Bridge. It's gonna happen folks. Just watch. Mark my word. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I'm with you here... talked about this 2 years ago on the 2015-2016 thread after I sailed on Quantum and then she went to China. I feel Voyager Class is an awful choice for Alaska, albeit seems to have been more successful than I thought it would be even though you can't look outside from hardly any venue, I assume Explorer passengers don't realize what they're missing as the ship sails by the awesome scenery. Quantum/Ovation/Q IV would be simply outstandsing in Alaska... can you imagine an Ovation South Pacific/New Zealand/Transpacific b2b2b2b with Alaska? I have to quit work for 2 months to live on the ship ala Mario style!!! (On a side note, I think Merion_Mom is doing this itinerary on Radiance this coming month... my hero! I'd love to have that time off to do that itinerary.:D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindyJohn Posted February 24, 2017 #764 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I could deal with a late release. How much later was it? Do you remember? I can't remember the back story but something changed about plans for Vision and that's why those summer 2017 sailings didn't come out until June 2016. Since PNW already provided the details, I'll add that another quick way to find release dates is to look at start dates for the Roll Call. That usually works pretty well - at least for the most popular cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wl2cruise Posted February 24, 2017 #765 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Why is it expensive to cruise out of California, but not Seattle or Vancouver? Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app California Air Resource Board declared war on the shipping industry. Speed reductions, Ultra low sulfur fuel, and shower power are just a few examples of the environment laws enacted since 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindyJohn Posted February 24, 2017 #766 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Thank you for sharing Mindy - we are really glad to see that Serenade will 'hopefully' be going back to Copenhagen - that is the TA we want to do late Summer 2018 since they bring the ship back sooner out of the Northern areas! Which cruise(s) are you and John looking forward to booking? I wish I could answer that Audrilee :confused: Thanks for asking. The good news is I have several placeholder onboard bookings I can build on, so I'm poised to shop :evilsmile: Bad news is I'm not sure what I'm shopping for. With two European emergency trips home due to John's health, we're less apt to jump on TA's than before, which stings since they were always our favs. DH's priority is photography so he gets tired of the sameness of RCCL itins, but the distant ports that offer variety carry more risk in the event of health probs. Last year I scored several JS bookings when they mistakenly opened them with prices nearly the same or lower than balconies, but I don't remember any grand strategy leading to those. Good luck with booking you northern TA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 24, 2017 #767 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Or do another "Around the Horn" that was so popular several years ago???:) I think it was popular because it was practically free as I recall. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 24, 2017 #768 Share Posted February 24, 2017 California Air Resource Board declared war on the shipping industry. Speed reductions, Ultra low sulfur fuel, and shower power are just a few examples of the environment laws enacted since 2010 I kind of figured as much, maybe you all should complain to your legislature. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARCruisinNana Posted February 24, 2017 #769 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I think it was popular because it was practically free as I recall. :eek: I was on the "Around the Horn" ( LA to São Paulo) in 2011 and it wasn't cheap. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 24, 2017 #770 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I was on the "Around the Horn" ( LA to São Paulo) in 2011 and it wasn't cheap. Sent from my iPad using Forums I was under the impression they were referring to the Mariner trip from PC to LA. January 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyluvs2cruise Posted February 24, 2017 #771 Share Posted February 24, 2017 There has been a steady flow of loyal West Coast RCI customers over to Princess in the last 6 years. I'm surprised to hear that RCI now admits to making money onboard the MN and MA when they were home-ported in Los Angeles. That goes against their explanation for leaving/not returning that was stated at the time and since. We West Coast folks were told repeatedly that we did not spend enough money onboard to support the ships remaining in Los Angeles. :confused: We'd heard the same about low on board spending. Monarch...with the 3/4 night cruises....did well. I compare it to the low price East Coast cruises people boast about. Is the on board spending that much higher/different? I don't think so. Princess, Carnival and occasionally Holland America continue to sail out of So Cal ports. I don't think they'd be here if it wasn't financially profitable for Carnival Corporation. Mariner did not do well here due to the CA recession, Swine Flu and violence fears in Mexico but I feel the Vision and Radiance class ships did well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted February 24, 2017 #772 Share Posted February 24, 2017 We'd heard the same about low on board spending. Monarch...with the 3/4 night cruises....did well. I compare it to the low price East Coast cruises people boast about. Is the on board spending that much higher/different? I don't think so. Princess, Carnival and occasionally Holland America continue to sail out of So Cal ports. I don't think they'd be here if it wasn't financially profitable for Carnival Corporation. Mariner did not do well here due to the CA recession, Swine Flu and violence fears in Mexico but I feel the Vision and Radiance class ships did well. Well said and I have said it also many times ;) I'm definitely not one of those.....I tried PCL when RCI left...something just felt off and I won't help to fill their ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted February 24, 2017 #773 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I think it was popular because it was practically free as I recall. :eek: Hardly. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted February 24, 2017 #774 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I wish I could answer that Audrilee :confused: Thanks for asking. The good news is I have several placeholder onboard bookings I can build on, so I'm poised to shop :evilsmile: Bad news is I'm not sure what I'm shopping for. With two European emergency trips home due to John's health, we're less apt to jump on TA's than before, which stings since they were always our favs. DH's priority is photography so he gets tired of the sameness of RCCL itins, but the distant ports that offer variety carry more risk in the event of health probs. Last year I scored several JS bookings when they mistakenly opened them with prices nearly the same or lower than balconies, but I don't remember any grand strategy leading to those. Good luck with booking you northern TA! I'm so sorry to hear this. It's never easy to make these kinds of decisions. Hugs to you! :* Or do another "Around the Horn" that was so popular several years ago???:) Just curious as I had heard speculation from a reliable source that Adventure might be going to Bayonne and Freedom might be going to SJU.....so was wondering if that meant both AD & AN in Bayonne or if AD was "replacing" AN. I doubt it, but anything is possible, as you know so well. Hopefully we will find out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 24, 2017 #775 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Hardly. :eek: I seem to recall it was around $800 per leg, and the Brazil to Chile was the cheapest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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