poncho1973 Posted August 3, 2018 #201 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Lets just hope that it's off. That seems a bit much for a Royal ship, even in the changing landscape of cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 23, 2018 #202 Share Posted August 23, 2018 http://www.seatrade-cruise.com/news/news-headlines/port-canaveral-will-be-home-to-carnival-brand-s-first-lng-ship.html Carnival plans to base its first LNG fueled ship at PC - not sure if that means the first Icon class ship will go there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted August 23, 2018 #203 Share Posted August 23, 2018 http://www.seatrade-cruise.com/news/news-headlines/port-canaveral-will-be-home-to-carnival-brand-s-first-lng-ship.html Carnival plans to base its first LNG fueled ship at PC - not sure if that means the first Icon class ship will go there as well. I think Carnival did that to try to compete against Harmony OTS which is suppose to move to PC. Initially I was thinking since there will only be one Oasis class ship left at PEV after all the repositionings, then maybe Icon would take over one of the weekend days at Terminal 18. However as you pointed out, now that Carnival is putting their first LNG at PC, will that push RCI to change its deployment. It's all good for the consumer though with many more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 23, 2018 #204 Share Posted August 23, 2018 However as you pointed out, now that Carnival is putting their first LNG at PC, will that push RCI to change its deployment. I was thinking more in terms of logistics of LNG refueling - Carnival will have to put it in place for their ship (probably not a trivial thing) and then RCI will just use that with Icon. Until it becomes more common place, LNG refueling will be very limited - think of very early days of Tesla Superchargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted August 24, 2018 #205 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I was thinking more in terms of logistics of LNG refueling - Carnival will have to put it in place for their ship (probably not a trivial thing) and then RCI will just use that with Icon. Until it becomes more common place, LNG refueling will be very limited - think of very early days of Tesla Superchargers. That does make sense. I can see the Port may be contributing or giving some incentives to have LNG refueling in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted August 24, 2018 #206 Share Posted August 24, 2018 That does make sense. I can see the Port may be contributing or giving some incentives to have LNG refueling in place. From what I have read Carnival plans to refuel their LNG ships through a bunker vessel. That vessel could presumably fill up at a port other than Canaveral and make the weekly trip to fuel the Carnival ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted August 24, 2018 #207 Share Posted August 24, 2018 From what I have read Carnival plans to refuel their LNG ships through a bunker vessel. That vessel could presumably fill up at a port other than Canaveral and make the weekly trip to fuel the Carnival ship. Yes with all the different port operations and facilities along the Florida coast, that sounds like a god plan. I am surprised that PC does not have LNG Ship Fueling supply yet. However JAXPORT does and that could be the source for the bunker vessels. BTW, I ran into an old post of yours about using a Hammock on your balcony. That is very cool. Never crossed my mind to do that or that it was allowed. I could have used one on my bad/small balcony on my MSC Seaside cruise last year. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 24, 2018 #208 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I think Carnival did that to try to compete against Harmony OTS which is suppose to move to PC. Initially I was thinking since there will only be one Oasis class ship left at PEV after all the repositionings, then maybe Icon would take over one of the weekend days at Terminal 18. However as you pointed out, now that Carnival is putting their first LNG at PC, will that push RCI to change its deployment. It's all good for the consumer though with many more options. Oasis has been in PC for over a year now. I guess Harmony slides make it more Carnivalesque. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted August 24, 2018 #209 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Oasis has been in PC for over a year now. I guess Harmony slides make it more Carnivalesque. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk It must be that and all the other stuff Harmony has, and trying to stay ahead of the competition with their respective deployment in PC. Looks like Harmony will start in May 2019. Maybe she will be joined with an Icon Class later at PC. http://creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/Deployment/2019_2020/2019-2020_HM_Deployment_Carib-OasisClass.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho1973 Posted August 27, 2018 #210 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Oasis has been in PC for over a year now. I guess Harmony slides make it more Carnivalesque. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Come on John, embrace the slides! I'll go down them with you sometime. Just embrace them. They are so much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 27, 2018 #211 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Come on John, embrace the slides! I'll go down them with you sometime. Just embrace them. They are so much fun.Will give it a shot in 4 weeks or so. I'm sure they are fun. Not very good on stairs, though. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthGrady Posted August 28, 2018 #212 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Oasis has been in PC for over a year now. I guess Harmony slides make it more Carnivalesque. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk I read somewhere the slides are there to make the ship more aerodynamic, saves a ton of fuel. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard54 Posted August 28, 2018 #213 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Will give it a shot in 4 weeks or so. I'm sure they are fun. Not very good on stairs, though. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk You ought to be able to make it up at least once "old man":rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 28, 2018 #214 Share Posted August 28, 2018 You ought to be able to make it up at least once "old man":rolleyes:I wonder if the steps get hot. That's always a problem Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted November 24, 2018 #215 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The next 10Q report out 3 weeks ago still lists: Icon-class: Unnamed 2nd Quarter 2022 5,650 Unnamed 2nd Quarter 2024 5,650 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted November 26, 2018 #216 Share Posted November 26, 2018 On 8/23/2018 at 9:31 PM, Ourusualbeach said: From what I have read Carnival plans to refuel their LNG ships through a bunker vessel. That vessel could presumably fill up at a port other than Canaveral and make the weekly trip to fuel the Carnival ship. Just a follow up on LNG in PC. Apparently the space programs are clamoring for LNG. A distribution facility is being discussed, but the fuel will come from Savanna. Disney is building 3 LNG ships as well. They generally come here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted November 26, 2018 #217 Share Posted November 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Just a follow up on LNG in PC. Apparently the space programs are clamoring for LNG. A distribution facility is being discussed, but the fuel will come from Savanna. Disney is building 3 LNG ships as well. They generally come here first. Thanks for the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 26, 2018 #218 Share Posted November 26, 2018 8 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Just a follow up on LNG in PC. Apparently the space programs are clamoring for LNG. A distribution facility is being discussed, but the fuel will come from Savanna. Disney is building 3 LNG ships as well. They generally come here first. I see that the Elba Island facility in Savannah will be open in late 2019. The problem will be then who will build the small LNG tankers/barges to transport the LNG from Savannah to PC, or the building of an LNG pipeline. LNG pipelines are much more expensive and difficult to insulate than normal natural gas pipelines. While Florida does have a natural gas pipeline system (ass opposed to petroleum pipelines), I don't think there are any LNG pipelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted November 26, 2018 #219 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, chengkp75 said: I see that the Elba Island facility in Savannah will be open in late 2019. The problem will be then who will build the small LNG tankers/barges to transport the LNG from Savannah to PC, or the building of an LNG pipeline. LNG pipelines are much more expensive and difficult to insulate than normal natural gas pipelines. While Florida does have a natural gas pipeline system (ass opposed to petroleum pipelines), I don't think there are any LNG pipelines. It's not rocket science. 😉 Just kidding. Lots of deep pockets down here. We dont have problems, we have challenges. Just curious, doesn't JAX have LNG fueling now? Not sure why they are going to Savannah. Edited November 26, 2018 by John&LaLa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted November 26, 2018 #220 Share Posted November 26, 2018 24 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: It's not rocket science. 😉 Just kidding. Lots of deep pockets down here. We dont have problems, we have challenges. Just curious, doesn't JAX have LNG fueling now? Not sure why they are going to Savannah. The JAX LNG facility development is being driven by, and for the benefit of, members of SEA\LNG. Tote maritime is the anchor customer. Royal is not a member of SEA\LNG, I don't believe, and in any event would probably have a relatively small demand for LNG compared to the cargo lines that the city is focused on wooing to the port. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 26, 2018 #221 Share Posted November 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: It's not rocket science. 😉 Just kidding. Lots of deep pockets down here. We dont have problems, we have challenges. Just curious, doesn't JAX have LNG fueling now? Not sure why they are going to Savannah. Jax has a very limited liquifaction plant, and I believe Crowley has a priority on LNG there for it's ships, and Tote is likely to use the facility as well. As a comparison, the Jax facility has a capacity of 0.18 Mtpa (million tons per annum), while the Savannah plant has a planned capacity of 2.44 Mtpa, or 13 times as much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 26, 2018 #222 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Tote's two ships on the PR/USVI weekly service will suck up about 12,000 tons of LNG per month, of the Jax plant's 15,000 capacity. Crowley, I think is working on their own liquifaction plant in Maxville, FL, but this is even smaller, with just about 2,000 tons of storage capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted November 26, 2018 #223 Share Posted November 26, 2018 One nice thing about Pt Canaveral is their neighbors are very experienced in keeping things cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted November 27, 2018 #224 Share Posted November 27, 2018 On 8/24/2018 at 3:31 AM, Ourusualbeach said: From what I have read Carnival plans to refuel their LNG ships through a bunker vessel. That vessel could presumably fill up at a port other than Canaveral and make the weekly trip to fuel the Carnival ship. Actually this is what they are currently doing with the AIDAnova. Yesterday a LNG barge came to Eemshaven to refuel the AIDAnova returning from her second sea trials round. steamboats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted November 27, 2018 #225 Share Posted November 27, 2018 In Stockholm they fill the big Viking ferry with LNG by truck that comes from Norway every other day I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now