bUU Posted January 27, 2017 #1 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Found this thread in the Carnival forum and felt it was equally relevant here. NCL is beta testing a new program allowing customers to"bid" on getting a cabin upgrade.... What are everyone thoughts on whether this type of thing would be feasible or even enjoyed with [other cruise lines]? http://www.travelandtourworld.com/news/article/passengers-on-norwegian-cruise-line-set-to-bid-on-cabin-upgrades/ I think this fits in with the general trends in consumer behaviors: It's better to get the other guy to give you their price first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabear Posted January 27, 2017 #2 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Some foreign airlines offer auctions to bid for upgrades to premium economy or business class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted January 27, 2017 #3 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Interesting. Is there a limit on the highest bid? If not, some people may end up paying more than the original fare for a cabin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEmerson Posted January 27, 2017 #4 Share Posted January 27, 2017 There maybe a good time to setup a website where people can post what dollar amounts they have put in for bidding and won to trend what people are willing to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57redbird Posted January 27, 2017 #5 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Some foreign airlines offer auctions to bid for upgrades to premium economy or business class. Hawaiian Air is doing this to upgrade to 1st class.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare geoherb Posted January 27, 2017 #6 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I think it's tacky and could backfire on the cruise line. Why would anyone ever book a suite if people think they could possibly get one a lot cheaper later? I'm also wondering whether people keep track of prices throughout time. I usually keep a spreadsheet of several different cruises, with different types of cabins for each, until we make a final decision to book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDC1 Posted January 27, 2017 #7 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I think it's tacky and could backfire on the cruise line. Why would anyone ever book a suite if people think they could possibly get one a lot cheaper later? I'm also wondering whether people keep track of prices throughout time. I usually keep a spreadsheet of several different cruises, with different types of cabins for each, until we make a final decision to book. Largely because there is no guarantee that an upgrade will be offered, and less that a person would win the bid if one was offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted January 27, 2017 #8 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I am glad that we don't book guarantees. Wonder if this will cause more people to book the cabin they want so as not to gave to worry about "bidding" for something better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare albingirl Posted January 27, 2017 #9 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I am glad that we don't book guarantees.Wonder if this will cause more people to book the cabin they want so as not to gave to worry about "bidding" for something better? I can see why people book a guarantee, but we never do. I'm always concerned that we may be placed under kitchen galley or showroom.....it would be difficult. We definitely book the cabin we are comfortable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellieanne Posted January 27, 2017 #10 Share Posted January 27, 2017 If I cannot book a specific cabin, then I will go for a guarantee in the lowest cabin category that is acceptable for me. I need a window, and actually prefer the shower only cabins to those with tubs. I'm happier on lowest decks and far forward. As a result, bidding for an upgrade doesn't appeal to me. Quite aside from my cabin preferences, I prefer to pay a set and stated price than have to figure out what something is worth to me. I don't need a balcony and while more space is nice, I don't feel the need to upgrade to something that has more drawbacks than plusses in my opinion. And the thought of bidding against someone else for those drawbacks is just crazy. Obviously, this is not marketed toward me. But I'm sure it is a god thing for the people who book the lowest inside categories in the hopes of getting an "upgrade" to a balcony suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaShrek Posted January 27, 2017 #11 Share Posted January 27, 2017 This could by a good idea if I know which cabins are available on a specific ship. For example, I will gladly bid for a suite if only a few suites are available. I can look at the deck plan and see that they are in acceptable locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toad Posted January 27, 2017 #12 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Found this thread in the Carnival forum and felt it was equally relevant here. I think this fits in with the general trends in consumer behaviors: It's better to get the other guy to give you their price first. Not surprised that NCL would do this, it goes very well with their overall persona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUU Posted January 27, 2017 Author #13 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I think it's tacky and could backfire on the cruise line. Why would anyone ever book a suite if people think they could possibly get one a lot cheaper later? I'm also wondering whether people keep track of prices throughout time. I usually keep a spreadsheet of several different cruises, with different types of cabins for each, until we make a final decision to book. The is no difference between cruise lines offering upsells and passengers bidding for them, with regard to the matters you mentioned. All that changes is which side opens the kimono. I am glad that we don't book guarantees.Wonder if this will cause more people to book the cabin they want so as not to gave to worry about "bidding" for something better? It sure seems designed to reduce the advantage experienced cruise customers have in this regard, so that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted January 28, 2017 #14 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) That sort of 'expectation, makes me shake my head for those of us who pay what we must when we book to gget the cabin category we want. Why would we continue to pay the 'going rate? if HAL were ro institute wsuch a prrogram? Unless the bid they expect gets to be very close to what th initial asking price is/waas. Edited January 28, 2017 by sail7seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellieanne Posted January 28, 2017 #15 Share Posted January 28, 2017 That sort of 'expectation, makes me shake my head for those of us who pay what we must when we book to gget the cabin category we want. Why would we continue to pay the 'going rate? if HAL were ro institute wsuch a prrogram? Unless the bid they expect gets to be very close to what th initial asking price is/waas. How does it differ from people who pay full price for what they want at a department store as opposed to those who wait for the same item to be offered on a site like Ebay? Either way someone is always paying more, but getting exactly what they want. If what I want is offered by the cruise line at what I consider a fair price, I will book my cabin and stop watching prices. I have no need to bid for upgrades because I am happy with what I purchased. The same way when the pair of shoes I want is offered by the department store at what I consider a fair price, I buy them and stop looking. If you're happy with the purchase, why continue to price compare and/or look around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvz2cruz Posted January 28, 2017 #16 Share Posted January 28, 2017 It looks to me like the bidding is for paid upsells after final payment. This could maximize profit because NCL knows how much they usually get for upsells and can ignore lower bids. The people who book suites will have probably already booked since this is after final payment. Prices often go down at that time so I see this as a moneymaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhsolara Posted January 28, 2017 #17 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Maybe I don't understand something, but I feel that we already do this with HAL. For this sailing, we booked a balcony guarantee. We would have been totally satisfied with a balcony, that's why we booked as such. We put our name on the list for upgrades. We got a few offers for upgrade to Vista Suite, which we didn't see as a value, so we declined. This week we got an offer for Vista Suite or Neptune Suite. We weren't happy with the price for Neptune, so we made an offer. Our PCC said they weren't accepting offers yet. Yesterday, we got an offer for a Vista again, but still declined. We asked if there were Neptune available and they said 1 was available but they wouldn't accept our offer. Less than 30 minutes later, our PCC called and asked if we were still interested in a Neptune. She said they are accepting offers now and she would try again for us. She came back with an offer for a Spa Neptune Suite at $100/pp less than our offer. Like I said, maybe I'm not speaking the correct language, but I feel that HAL already does this. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted January 28, 2017 #18 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Yet another cruise line ploy to get more money out of us. Not for me. DON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUU Posted January 28, 2017 Author #19 Share Posted January 28, 2017 That sort of 'expectation, makes me shake my head for those of us who pay what we must when we book to gget the cabin category we want.I agree. I would prefer it if everything, except the product that feeds into my salary bonuses, had one set price, with no shenanigans whatsoever employed to maximize revenue from certain customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utwofan Posted January 28, 2017 #20 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Found this thread in the Carnival forum and felt it was equally relevant here. I think this fits in with the general trends in consumer behaviors: It's better to get the other guy to give you their price first. Numerous threads posted on the topic. Received offer to bid last month for February cruise and find it a very reasonable procedure. It would be nice to have bid accepted at level of bid but no major disappointment either. This allows the cruise line to maximize potential as when they upgrade me, they upgrade the next person bidding on my cabin, and so on down the line. No need to wait for someone else to "accept" an upgrade offer by phone then going down the line searching for the next person to accept an upgrade to that now empty cabin. Maximum bid amount is identified on the scale so no risk of bidding too much. Seems like it really streamlines the up sell process. As soon as everyone starts posting the price where their bid is actually accepted it will soon require everyone to place a Max bid to have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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