GranysT Posted March 21, 2017 #26 Share Posted March 21, 2017 e x a c t l y Just because things change doesn't always mean it's Good. Sure I eat at lots of places that don't have tablecloths. But, I enjoyed the tablecloths on the ships. It just made things seem more elegant. All the cuts Carnival keeps on doing just keeps cheapening the whole cruise experience. For me, that's Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdGuyMG Posted March 21, 2017 #27 Share Posted March 21, 2017 In a few years, when the table tops are all beat to hell and looking tired, tablecloths will make a comeback. More likely, the table will be replaced with a new one from the store room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crzndeb Posted March 21, 2017 #28 Share Posted March 21, 2017 OP, in case you missed it http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2472502 I agree, the horse went to the glue factory a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebJ14 Posted March 21, 2017 #29 Share Posted March 21, 2017 The vast majority of nice restaurants that I've been to (at around $100/pp or more) do not have tacky white tablecloths. I am dumbstruck as to why is it that people complain about the lack of something so passé as tablecloths. To each their own I suppose. One of our favorite restaurants has elegant black tablecloths and napkins. I prefer the black napkins because they don't leave that white lint on dark clothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted March 22, 2017 #30 Share Posted March 22, 2017 The buffet at the Hard Rock casino near us uses tablecloths. They actually used to use two, in different colors, for a two tone effect. The bar is getting lower all over these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyancho Posted March 22, 2017 #31 Share Posted March 22, 2017 or you can eat at Masa in NYC which is probably the most expensive restaurant in the country... maybe they are skimping on the tablecloths too on the bright side, they don't allow tipping (but at about $500 per person ... I guess they build it in) Yeah, that's who carnival is trying to emulate. Not tipping will get your head chewed off here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicoleds Posted March 22, 2017 #32 Share Posted March 22, 2017 :( I found the lack of table cloth to be a total non-issue. I probably wouldn't have even put thought into it or noticed had I not read it here. yes exactly this! who cares lol you're on vacation, relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonit964 Posted March 22, 2017 #33 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I like the tablecloths, it seems elegant and reminds me that I'm cruising. I especially remember when the staff would come around after every course and use the crumb scraper. They still do from time to time. I've had the American table a few times and didn't really mind it but there is just something about the tablecloths that are special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdggal1980 Posted March 22, 2017 #34 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Table clothes or no table clothes - doesn't change the quality of the food you're getting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Dutch Girl Posted March 22, 2017 #35 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I like the tablecloths, it seems elegant and reminds me that I'm cruising. I especially remember when the staff would come around after every course and use the crumb scraper. They still do from time to time.I've had the American table a few times and didn't really mind it but there is just something about the tablecloths that are special. zzzzzzzz..... I'm on a CASUAL vacation, beaches, snorkeling, water sports, zip lines, parasailing, sleeping in, resting in the sun. What in the world does "fine dining", tablecloths, dressy clothes have to do with a vacation in the sun to get out of the gray gloom of most winters. Cruising IS NOT a trip back in time to an age when a first class passengers demanded royal service 24/7 and the most invigorating thing they did was tip their champagne glass. The world has gotten more casual (for the better in my opinion) and cruising is a bit behind the times...it needs to catch up, not revert back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted March 22, 2017 #36 Share Posted March 22, 2017 zzzzzzzz..... I'm on a CASUAL vacation, beaches, snorkeling, water sports, zip lines, parasailing, sleeping in, resting in the sun. What in the world does "fine dining", tablecloths, dressy clothes have to do with a vacation in the sun to get out of the gray gloom of most winters. Cruising IS NOT a trip back in time to an age when a first class passengers demanded royal service 24/7 and the most invigorating thing they did was tip their champagne glass. The world has gotten more casual (for the better in my opinion) and cruising is a bit behind the times...it needs to catch up, not revert back. Why can't one have both casual and elegant on vacation? I like variety and Carnival gives me that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizardhowson Posted March 22, 2017 #37 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Those who are still complaining about no tablecloths, I respectfully invite you all to invoke your right to protest by not sailing on Carnival in the future - Sure, that will teach Carnival (and make more room for the rest of us - shoot it might even bring prices down some). :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloafsfan Posted March 22, 2017 #38 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Why can't one have both casual and elegant on vacation? I like variety and Carnival gives me that. We do - tablecloths on Elegant nights to be elegant; plain tables everything other night for Cruise Casual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggielover68 Posted March 22, 2017 #39 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I never understood why a piece of fabric on a table makes it "fancy." I enjoy American Table dining, with the jug of water on the table and a weird box of bread. After a long day in the sun, I need both of those things. I do not need a piece of linen. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzeluver Posted March 22, 2017 #40 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Because the dining experience on Carnival was so elegant prior to the removing of the tablecloths what with the neon lighting, waiters dancing to poorly-recorded pop songs, napkin-waving and crew dressed far better than the passengers in many cases all of which are still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted March 23, 2017 #41 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Because the dining experience on Carnival was so elegant prior to the removing of the tablecloths what with the neon lighting, waiters dancing to poorly-recorded pop songs, napkin-waving and crew dressed far better than the passengers in many cases all of which are still there. Sounds to me like your not talking about table cloths at all. The dining experience you describe is not changing. Like it or not.... Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSHLOT Posted March 23, 2017 #42 Share Posted March 23, 2017 OMG..Whats next? Paper napkins? Plastic forks? Paper plates? Styro foam cups? Oh the agony...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzeluver Posted March 23, 2017 #43 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Sounds to me like your not talking about table cloths at all. The dining experience you describe is not changing. Like it or not.... I have no problem with it (well I could do without the dancing waiters). I know when we book Carnival what to expect. My comment was in response to those who say taking away the tablecloths makes the dining experience on Carnival less elegant. My point is that in my view it never was. We are fine with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimChickmsu Posted March 23, 2017 #44 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I know I'm in the minority but just came of the Vista and this was my first cruise without tableclothes and I did miss them. (This was my 9th Carnival cruise) They do make it seem a little more elegant. Didn't help that the tables are already chipped and uneven on a pretty new boat. I do like to dress up for dinner and no I'm not stuck in the 80's as I'm only 38. BUT on the other hand I don't care what anyone else wears. They could wear their swimsuit to dinner for all I care. It doesn't affect me or my dining experience. It also annoys me that Carnival is a large corporation so them getting rid of them under the premise of being for the environment but we all know it's for their bottom line. And I also understand they won't ever be coming back. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krehberg Posted March 23, 2017 #45 Share Posted March 23, 2017 To me, this is all about current trends. Can only give my experience being from the Tampa, FL area, but outside of Bern's Steakhouse, none of my favorite Tampa area higher end restaurants use table cloths anymore. I'm talking about independent, chef or family owned restaurants, not chains. Over time, things evolve and this is just one of those cases. The only evolution over the last 10 years that I really, really don't like is using a DJ anywhere but the dance club (which I avoid like the plague) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrilled2012 Posted March 23, 2017 #46 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I have no problem with it (well I could do without the dancing waiters). I know when we book Carnival what to expect. My comment was in response to those who say taking away the tablecloths makes the dining experience on Carnival less elegant. My point is that in my view it never was. We are fine with that. Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted March 23, 2017 #47 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I know I'm in the minority but just came of the Vista and this was my first cruise without tableclothes and I did miss them. (This was my 9th Carnival cruise) They do make it seem a little more elegant. Didn't help that the tables are already chipped and uneven on a pretty new boat. I do like to dress up for dinner and no I'm not stuck in the 80's as I'm only 38. BUT on the other hand I don't care what anyone else wears. They could wear their swimsuit to dinner for all I care. It doesn't affect me or my dining experience. It also annoys me that Carnival is a large corporation so them getting rid of them under the premise of being for the environment but we all know it's for their bottom line. And I also understand they won't ever be coming back. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I disagree with that. I think that they will make a comeback in a few years, not because they're elegant, but because it's cheaper than replacing a room full of chipped and battle scarred tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teknoge3k Posted March 23, 2017 #48 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I disagree with that. I think that they will make a comeback in a few years, not because they're elegant, but because it's cheaper than replacing a room full of chipped and battle scarred tables. John Heald actually had this topic this morning and he stated they won't be coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted March 23, 2017 #49 Share Posted March 23, 2017 John Heald actually had this topic this morning and he stated they won't be coming back. He's actually been spectacularly wrong about stuff before. There's plenty of precedent. LOL Not saying he's wrong about this, but, it's happened before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tef43 Posted March 23, 2017 #50 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Maybe we can mention Walmart as well If the shoe fits ... But actually, I'd think more along the lines of Big Lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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