Not a DREAM

[jas1178]

Aren't those lounge chairs on Serenity? If I remember Dream Class, Serenity is on deck 14 & 15 FORWARD. There is zero chance that is soot. Soot falls on the back half of the ship when conditions are right...it cant fall UPwind of a forward moving ship. Not buying that cop-out of an explanation. That is poor upkeep.

[AnitaVacation]

Just curious as to where you thing the soot goes and if weather and movement has anything to do with it.

 

The mess on the loungers was more than just soot...more of a combination of soot, sweat and suntan lotion....it was a poor choice of fabric for those covers...knowing that 100's of people would be using them, they should have choose something more durable that was easily washable and/or changeable....

[AnitaVacation]

I agree the loungers look gross!! The Soot from the funnel explanation doesn't make it any better.

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Can you see in the photo that the build up is GREEN.....not just salt water....these panels have not been cleaned in some time...

[glass56]

We just got off The Pride and I am having some of the same feelings.....this poor old ship is in desperate need of some TLC and CLEANING!! We've sailed The Pride several times and this past trip I was mostly disappointed with the look of everything....we had a Vista Suite on deck 8 and the carpet was worn/frayed...the glass on the balcony was disgusting ( I know the salt water does leave a residue, but this looked like it had not been cleaned for weeks and had green stuff caked on it)...rust everywhere....we got two different notices that they would be cleaning the balconies on port days, they may have sprayed off the balcony, but did not clean that glass at all....

 

But the worst thing I saw....the serenity deck loungers....every single chair pad was stained with what I could only assume was tanning lotion...and they looked gross and some were torn...

 

Cosmetically, she's in tough shape....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[watermelonqueen99]

That's a little distressing to hear how bad a shape it's in. I'm going on it next month with my GF. This is her first time cruising, and I really want her to enjoy herself so we can do more in the future. I guess too late to change anything now, so we'll just roll with it.

 

Don't take this review to heart, it's only ONE person's opinion. We were on the Dream pre-dry dock last August, and had an amazing time. We're going on her again in October and can't wait. Have a great cruise!

[LMaxwell]

If you are not the type of person to notice, you won't be bothered. If you have been on a spotless ship from another line you can't help but notice the differences. This is no secret.

[caryatid]

Those loungers do look pretty rough, I don't think I would want to sit on them. I can understand being surprised by their condition, I would hope for better upkeep as well. It certainly wouldn't ruin my cruise, but you can both notice things that need extra attention and still have a fun vacation.

[rbt001]

The black stuff on the loungers is soot from the funnel. Just throw a towel over it and you will be fine.

 

The fact that you took pics of dirty windows and loungers that are constantly in use everyday by hundreds of people suggests to me that you were going out of your way to find something to complain about.

 

I am sure I could find dirty things at any hotel or resort or on any cruise line anywhere. I certainly wouldn't be wasting valuable vacation time to fret about it or going the extra step to take pictures of it.

 

I sincerely and wholeheartedly disagree with you. That's not soot, and those loungers are disgusting.

 

I normally sail Princess, and I can tell you it's RARE to encounter a day where maintenance isn't painting, varnishing, or otherwise generally improving SOMETHING on the ship to combat the effects of the saltwater and salt air.

 

Contrast that against Carnival ships. I've always found it astounding, the amount of visible rust, and rust stains, like no one even cares after the ships.

 

Someone else pointed out that with thousands of people using the ship weekly, things wear out. True: and that's why they are replaced-- at least on a good line or at a good resort.

 

I am certain (having worked for well over a decade in the hospitality industry) that one would be hard pressed to "find dirty things" in a good hotel or resort. Stay at a Westin, Hyatt, Hilton, Marriott, Ritz-Carlton, Four Seasons, etc. and I'd bet it would be difficult to find anything out of place.

 

Whereas at Days Inn, Motel 6, Red Roof Inn..... oh... wait a minute....

 

Hmmmm... Carnival.... Well yes, now I guess I see your point.

[jas1178]

Wonder the last time that the hotel director walked that deck.

[Crusingdiva62]

Maybe people who wear sun tan lotion should be proactive and at least put a towel under themselves before ruining someone else's furnishings. I made a friend pay up for doing that to a new lounger of mine which had towels on them for just that purpose and she chose not to use it!

 

 

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[AmeliaAtSea]

I agree the loungers look gross!! The Soot from the funnel explanation doesn't make it any better.

Not exaggerating in my opinion.

 

 

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If you were to combine the 2 possibilities--sunscreen & soot, then that could explain those stains. It could be both--the soot sticks to the sunscreen.

[WiCruiseDreamer]

Maybe people who wear sun tan lotion should be proactive and at least put a towel under themselves before ruining someone else's furnishings. I made a friend pay up for doing that to a new lounger of mine which had towels on them for just that purpose and she chose not to use it!

 

 

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Totally agree with you. Funny how some people don't know how to accept personal responsibility for anything.

Yes, maybe poor fabric for a lounger, but if people would take the appropriate precautions, stains like this would not happen as frequently.

[WiCruiseDreamer]

I sincerely and wholeheartedly disagree with you. That's not soot, and those loungers are disgusting.

 

I normally sail Princess, and I can tell you it's RARE to encounter a day where maintenance isn't painting, varnishing, or otherwise generally improving SOMETHING on the ship to combat the effects of the saltwater and salt air.

 

Contrast that against Carnival ships. I've always found it astounding, the amount of visible rust, and rust stains, like no one even cares after the ships.

 

Someone else pointed out that with thousands of people using the ship weekly, things wear out. True: and that's why they are replaced-- at least on a good line or at a good resort.

 

I am certain (having worked for well over a decade in the hospitality industry) that one would be hard pressed to "find dirty things" in a good hotel or resort. Stay at a Westin, Hyatt, Hilton, Marriott, Ritz-Carlton, Four Seasons, etc. and I'd bet it would be difficult to find anything out of place.

 

Whereas at Days Inn, Motel 6, Red Roof Inn..... oh... wait a minute....

 

Hmmmm... Carnival.... Well yes, now I guess I see your point.

 

 

Not saying that you are entirely incorrect, but having worked in the hospitality industry over 30 years, I have found that the cost of a resort or hotel is not a definitive factor of quality. Nor does the cost define the type of guest.

Could some ships do better, yes, but so could some guests.

Some people's definition of astounding is different than others. I do appreciate that one's perception is their reality, it may also be greater or less of an issue through the eye's of another.

[Cafedumonde]

totally gross!

[rbt001]

... I have found that the cost of a resort or hotel is not a definitive factor of quality. Nor does the cost define the type of guest.

 

Could some ships do better, yes, but so could some guests. ...

 

I see your point. Aside from cost, there's also the factor of who is responsible for making decisions about the upkeep.

 

And with respect to your comment on guests, correct again.

 

But back to AnitaVacation's comments and observations....

 

...but sticking with the hotel analogy...

 

Irregardless of whether one stays in a high-end property --with espresso makers and L'Occitane bath amenities in every room-- or a budget property --with instant coffee and wall dispensers for industrial soap-- a guest expects a clean room, unstained sheets, and wall paper not peeling from the walls.

[jimbo5544]

I sincerely and wholeheartedly disagree with you. That's not soot, and those loungers are disgusting.

 

 

 

I normally sail Princess, and I can tell you it's RARE to encounter a day where maintenance isn't painting, varnishing, or otherwise generally improving SOMETHING on the ship to combat the effects of the saltwater and salt air.

 

 

 

Contrast that against Carnival ships. I've always found it astounding, the amount of visible rust, and rust stains, like no one even cares after the ships.

 

 

 

Someone else pointed out that with thousands of people using the ship weekly, things wear out. True: and that's why they are replaced-- at least on a good line or at a good resort.

 

 

 

I am certain (having worked for well over a decade in the hospitality industry) that one would be hard pressed to "find dirty things" in a good hotel or resort. Stay at a Westin, Hyatt, Hilton, Marriott, Ritz-Carlton, Four Seasons, etc. and I'd bet it would be difficult to find anything out of place.

 

 

 

Whereas at Days Inn, Motel 6, Red Roof Inn..... oh... wait a minute....

 

 

 

Hmmmm... Carnival.... Well yes, now I guess I see your point.

 

 

 

I see your point and could not disagree any more. I have been on over 35 Carnival ships and the things you describe as common place I have never seen. Sounds more like rose colored glasses from my viewpoint. Your last statement says volumes......

 

 

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[Yvonne]

We were on the Dream in January. We don't participate in the competition games, but I can understand if you were expecting/hoping for them and didn't have them you would be disappointed. We enjoyed the shows as they were the "old" style and not the Playlist Production stuff (but I think they switched to those during dry-dock, unfortunately) and loved the Comedy Club. The food was okay, but I actually lost weight on this cruise which is unheard of. Very disappointed in the offerings at the buffet. And no more smoked salmon on the room service breakfast menu was a big disappointment for me. We don't plan to cruise with Carnival next time. Yes, they have a good price but we've decided we'd rather pay more and get a little more for our money so we'll be trying some different lines.

 

About the loungers, I never saw any THAT dirty on our cruise. Those that you posted pictures of were absolutely disgusting. We did try to enjoy the Serenity area one afternoon when we were in port (Belize) but that's when the crew decided to vacuum the cushions. :( I know they need to be vacuumed (but by your photos they need to be SCRUBBED!) but it was annoying when we were searching for relaxation, peace and quiet.

[rbt001]

I see your point and could not disagree any more. I have been on over 35 Carnival ships and the things you describe as common place I have never seen. Sounds more like rose colored glasses from my viewpoint. Your last statement says volumes......

 

 

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My last statements from what you quoted were tongue in cheek, so let me clarify in plain language.

 

I cringe most times when I look at a Carnival Ship in port and notice all the rust. Sailing on Princess it is commonplace to view a Carnival ship in the same port, and compared to a Princess ship, there's excessive rust.

 

My stomach turned when I viewed the photos in this thread of the FILTHY deck loungers. While I made no comment as to how commonplace dirty loungers on a Carnival ship are, the wide angle photo shows many of the loungers pictured to be awful.

 

My last statements were intended to liken Carnival to a low-end hotel chain such as Motel 6 and Red Roof Inn.

 

And finally, the idiom "rose colored glasses" that you used refers to taking an optimistic point of view, which clearly my words are not.

[Crusingdiva62]

the fact that someone who looks down on Carnival so much tells a lot about them when they waste time in putting them down. Apparently so beneath their standards but not enough to not come in a carnival forum to wax poetic on how horrid and uncouth a cruise-line it is. I must surmise not enough going on in those so called better Cruise lines

[BNBR]

The black stuff on the loungers is soot from the funnel. Just throw a towel over it and you will be fine.

 

The fact that you took pics of dirty windows and loungers that are constantly in use everyday by hundreds of people suggests to me that you were going out of your way to find something to complain about.

 

I am sure I could find dirty things at any hotel or resort or on any cruise line anywhere. I certainly wouldn't be wasting valuable vacation time to fret about it or going the extra step to take pictures of it.

 

I think the loungers look unacceptable. There is nothing stopping Carnival from replacing the cushions other than failure to do so. The filthy windows and rust everywhere is not acceptable either. That was my impression when I sailed Glory last year, too. The overall condition of the ship felt very distressed and poorly maintained. Faded paint, dirty loungers, rust and what not everywhere.

 

I sailed Oasis last year as well and the ship was a stark contrast to the filthy Carnival ship. Consider Oasis and Dream both launched the same year, too....

[stobe1]

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not worth it.

[rbt001]

the fact that someone who looks down on Carnival so much tells a lot about them when they waste time in putting them down. Apparently so beneath their standards but not enough to not come in a carnival forum to wax poetic on how horrid and uncouth a cruise-line it is. I must surmise not enough going on in those so called better Cruise lines

 

Oh, how incorrectly you deduce.

 

My primary purpose for viewing threads in the Carnival forum is to learn about the line as I prepare for an upcoming cruise. I will be sailing on a two week Carnival cruise in a suite-- complimentary. This will be my first Carnival cruise, and typically cruise critic can be a good source of information-- after filtering out the posting by:

 

the cheaters-- "this is how I used the casino as an ATM"

the inconsiderate-- "my personal reasons are more important than following MDR dress code outlined by the cruise line"; and

the braggarts-- "this is how I smuggled liquor on board"

 

The true waste of time, for me, is responding to these type of threads:

 

-"I'm so excited because I just got a free upgrade!"

-"It's such a waste of money to pay extra to eat in a specialty restaurant when I can gorge myself at the free buffet."

-"I'm so mad that xxxxx will be closed/delayed/relocated during my cruise!"

 

[Look hard enough in the topics for any of the lines and I'm sure you'll find these examples-- not just Carnival]

 

It has been this particular subject, this thread, that I have been most vocal. To me, when I see those filthy stained loungers, I begin to wonder... that if Carnival crew, staff, and officers are blind to this particular dirt, then what other items to they overlook?

[jimbo5544]

Can you see in the photo that the build up is GREEN.....not just salt water....these panels have not been cleaned in some time...

 

 

 

Love the experts who know all this.....

 

 

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[jimbo5544]

My last statements from what you quoted were tongue in cheek, so let me clarify in plain language.

 

 

 

I cringe most times when I look at a Carnival Ship in port and notice all the rust. Sailing on Princess it is commonplace to view a Carnival ship in the same port, and compared to a Princess ship, there's excessive rust.

 

 

 

My stomach turned when I viewed the photos in this thread of the FILTHY deck loungers. While I made no comment as to how commonplace dirty loungers on a Carnival ship are, the wide angle photo shows many of the loungers pictured to be awful.

 

 

 

My last statements were intended to liken Carnival to a low-end hotel chain such as Motel 6 and Red Roof Inn.

 

 

 

And finally, the idiom "rose colored glasses" that you used refers to taking an optimistic point of view, which clearly my words are not.

 

 

 

LOL, I cringe at looking at NCL ships.... Point is, if you don't like them, don't sail and look at them in port. All ships that sail seas rust....all

 

 

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[rbt001]

LOL, I cringe at looking at NCL ships.... Point is, if you don't like them, don't sail and look at them in port. All ships that sail seas rust....all

 

Actually, the point is, that while all ships may rust, most cruise lines mitigate the damage cause by rust through continuous maintenance. The amount of visible rust on Carnival ships makes me question their commitment to maintaining their ships.

 

Pointless is stating that I just shouldn't look at them in port.