edgee Posted August 6, 2018 #1 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Seems to be a lack of clarity regarding casino smoking ban (or not) on Zuiderdam and Westerdam. I booked a cruise for next month on Zuiderdam when policy on HAL website said Eurodam, Oosterdam as well as Zuiderdam and Westerdam were smoke free. Now when I look it appears that Zuiderdam and Westerdam are not included in smoke free casino list when I go to page 16 of Q & A PDF on HAL website. Can anyone tell me from personal experience whether Zuiderdam casino is smoke free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kftw Posted August 6, 2018 #2 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Seems to be a lack of clarity regarding casino smoking ban (or not) on Zuiderdam and Westerdam. I booked a cruise for next month on Zuiderdam when policy on HAL website said Eurodam, Oosterdam as well as Zuiderdam and Westerdam were smoke free. Now when I look it appears that Zuiderdam and Westerdam are not included in smoke free casino list when I go to page 16 of Q & A PDF on HAL website. Can anyone tell me from personal experience whether Zuiderdam casino is smoke free? The last time I was on the Zuiderdam there was a smoking section in the casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoolSlider Posted August 6, 2018 #3 Share Posted August 6, 2018 June 2018 - no smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bnxshs Posted August 6, 2018 #4 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Westerdam's casino was smoke free in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lady Arwen Posted August 6, 2018 #5 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Now, if only they would ban smoking in the casino on Koningsdam! Wondering what will happen with Nieuw Statendam. It would be a shame to have smoking on a brand new beautiful ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idiebabe Posted August 6, 2018 #6 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Yes, Zuiderdam’s Casino is Smoke-Free since the remodel to Music Walk. We were on her in May, 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman93 Posted August 7, 2018 #7 Share Posted August 7, 2018 July 2018 smoke-free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PENGUIN67 Posted September 26, 2018 #8 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Aug 2018-Only smoking area on entire ship is Lido Deck aft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Turtles06 Posted September 26, 2018 #9 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Aug 2018-Only smoking area on entire ship is Lido Deck aft. Yup, we were just on board, Aug/Sept. 2018. Just that one area on the starboard side, Lido Deck aft, by the pool. Unfortunately, smoke travels, so it was not confined to that side of the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highscar Posted September 26, 2018 #10 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Westerdam's casino was smoke free in April. April 12-23. Circle Hawaii casino WAS smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highscar Posted September 26, 2018 #11 Share Posted September 26, 2018 April 12-29. Circle hawii casino was without argument smoking allowed on the Westerdam. 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybear Posted September 26, 2018 #12 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Zuiderdam November 2017 smoke free casino after the dry dock. Now I’m concerned about the Westerdam next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithaca gal Posted September 27, 2018 #13 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Now, if only they would ban smoking in the casino on Koningsdam! Wondering what will happen with Nieuw Statendam. It would be a shame to have smoking on a brand new beautiful ship. When we cruised on the brand new Koningsdam last year, we were stunned to find that smoking was allowed in the casino on a brand new ship! What were they thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybear Posted September 27, 2018 #14 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Exactly! Why take it off the older ships and allow it in the newest? Makes no sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggal Posted September 27, 2018 #15 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Exactly! Why take it off the older ships and allow it in the newest? Makes no sense! For gamblers that smoke Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted September 27, 2018 #16 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Exactly! Why take it off the older ships and allow it in the newest? Makes no sense! Perhaps they figured that they needed to attract as many gamblers as possible to this larger casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgee Posted September 27, 2018 Author #17 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Perhaps they figured that they needed to attract as many gamblers as possible to this larger casino. Super successful non smoking casinos by gaming industry giants are now operating in states (eg. Maryland) which ban casino smoking. I am a frequent player and will only sail on ships with non smoking casinos. Am currently on Zuiderdam and enjoying the non smoking casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodjs Posted September 27, 2018 #18 Share Posted September 27, 2018 This smoking/non-smoking policy is extremely confusing! We were on the Westerdam in Alaska from Seward to Vancouver in June. The casino was completely non-smoking. It is not true that ships need to allow smoking to fill the larger casinos, as Celebrity has been completely non-smoking for many years. No trouble packing the casinos. Very strong opinions on both sides of this issue. We will not gamble on a ship that allows smoking and applaud HAL for converting as their redesigned ships come out of drydock. Perhaps your question is best answered with a call to HAL. The website is out of date. We inquired about the Nieuw Amsterdam (not listed in the non-smoking group) and have been told that it now has a completely non-smoking casino. We board on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgee Posted September 27, 2018 Author #19 Share Posted September 27, 2018 This smoking/non-smoking policy is extremely confusing! We were on the Westerdam in Alaska from Seward to Vancouver in June. The casino was completely non-smoking. It is not true that ships need to allow smoking to fill the larger casinos, as Celebrity has been completely non-smoking for many years. No trouble packing the casinos. Very strong opinions on both sides of this issue. We will not gamble on a ship that allows smoking and applaud HAL for converting as their redesigned ships come out of drydock.Perhaps your question is best answered with a call to HAL. The website is out of date. We inquired about the Nieuw Amsterdam (not listed in the non-smoking group) and have been told that it now has a completely non-smoking casino. We board on Saturday. Please report back to this thread if Nieuw Amsterdam has, in fact, a indeed a non smoking casino. Enjoy your cruise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithaca gal Posted September 28, 2018 #20 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Perhaps they figured that they needed to attract as many gamblers as possible to this larger casino. It still makes no sense to stink up brand new carpets, draperies, etc. of a beautiful new ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted September 28, 2018 #21 Share Posted September 28, 2018 It still makes no sense to stink up brand new carpets, draperies, etc. of a beautiful new ship. While I agree with you, remember that gamblers are very profitable to the cruise line. The money they make off of the smoking ones would buy alot of carpeting and drapes. My relative is a chain smoker and a big gambler, and she would not sail on a ship that has a non-smoking casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucymorgan Posted September 28, 2018 #22 Share Posted September 28, 2018 This smoking/non-smoking policy is extremely confusing! We were on the Westerdam in Alaska from Seward to Vancouver in June. The casino was completely non-smoking. I wonder if it depends on where the ship is cruising. We will be on Westerdam in Asia next year and I am hoping the casino will be smoke free but as a lot of people still smoke in Asia, perhaps it will not. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodjs Posted October 4, 2018 #23 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Please report back to this thread if Nieuw Amsterdam has, in fact, a indeed a non smoking casino. Enjoy your cruise! Just back from our short cruise on the Nieuw Amsterdam. I am happy to report that it has a 100% smoke-free casino. On our last night, the casino was wall-to-wall people! And the dueling piano area was packed as well! The casino host said that the smoke-free change is happening on all HAL ships when the dueling pianos are located directly across from the casino, since there is no barrier to prevent smoke travel. :D I strongly agree with some that the casinos on Koningsdam and the Nieuw Statendam should also be made smoke-free, since you definitely have the smoke travel down the stairway from the casino to the music walk area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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