17 y/o dress code for MDR?

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It's Carnival. Anything goes.

[OCruisers]

On 4/26/2019 at 9:44 AM, bnbeyer said:

👍  Yeah, I think I'll buy a couple of those.  He's outgrown the ones he had before, but he did wear them to church.

 

 

Good Plan!  Certainly things he may need to wear at home from time to time.  

[grandmarnnurse]

1 hour ago, coevan said:

We definitely saw a guy turned away in shorts on elegant night. His wife gave him a steely look and said, "I told you so"

How hard or different is it to put on a pair of slacks, one leg at a time just like shorts? 

On our cruise with family in 2018, my SIL never even packed slacks, only shorts. 😳

[OCruisers]

I've never seen anyone turned away from the MDR on Carnival even on "elegant nights" wearning nice shorts or jeans.  

[coevan]

good for you

 

 

1 hour ago, grandmarnnurse said:

my SIL

pretty sure the rule applies to guys

[grandmarnnurse]

1 hour ago, coevan said:

good for you

 

 

pretty sure the rule applies to guys

That was my son in law. Lol!

[splash_in_the_water]

while this topic has been beat to death, i'll chip anyway. Some nice jeans and a polo/golf shirt/deck shoes on regular nights always looks good. Throw a sport coat on over for a quick and sharp look. 

 

elegant night, spice it up with some nicer shoes and some nice slacks, or those black pants you mentioned. again with the sport coat- can't really go wrong. He'll look good, and feel good too. Sometimes it's not something you even think about 'til you get all duded up, then you see yourself in the mirror and it's like "hey, check this guy out!" ...we all get comfy in our day to day, but it's nice to get out of the sweats once in awhile.

[coevan]

BTW, the "good for you" was for OCruisers

 

very funny, too many initials

 

I feel it's insulting to come in shorts to the Steakhouse or Elegant night, as they are specifically requesting men wear slacks

 

[repo-cruiser]

On 4/26/2019 at 11:59 AM, Schoifmom said:

Here is it from the HUB app.

Thanks for this. I have golf hats not baseball hats. 

[MJSailors]

10 hours ago, coevan said:

We definitely saw a guy turned away in shorts on elegant night. His wife gave him a steely look and said, "I told you so"

How hard or different is it to put on a pair of slacks, one leg at a time just like shorts? 

Agree with you,coeval.

I always thought that putting on a pair of khakis or dress pants is not much different than putting on shorts- two legs,a zipper,a button and,hopefully,a belt. 

IMHO,a young man of 17 should have a nice pair of dress pants,a long sleeved dress shirt and a tie and ,possibly,a jacket or blazer in his wardrobe. Never know when such an outfit may be needed- weddings,funerals,school events. The cost for these items can be kept down if you shop in places such as Marshall’s,Steinmart or TJMax or Land’s End. Certainly, one does not have to shop at Brooks Brothers to look neat and appropriate.

It is not so much the idea of keeping to a dress code,but rather making an occasion of dinner with the family. Again,IMHO, it is nothing if an event is not made into something by putting effort into it.

Now, I will take my soapbox and sign off !

[hotsauce126]

What they'll allow and what they're supposed to wear are two different things

[bnbeyer]

13 hours ago, MJSailors said:

IMHO,a young man of 17 should have a nice pair of dress pants,a long sleeved dress shirt and a tie and ,possibly,a jacket or blazer in his wardrobe. Never know when such an outfit may be needed- weddings,funerals,school events.

 

My son has a nice gray suit, dress shirts, and ties. He also has black slacks he wears to work. We live in farm country, and my boys prefer jeans and t-shirts. While my husband will pack and wear a suit if I ask him to, I'm not going to. If I'm not going to make him do it, I'm certainly not going to make my son. If it were an Alaskan cruise and not the Caribbean, maybe I'd feel different. We would definitely be packing heavier in that case.

 

Jeans and polos it is. Slacks for elegant nights. Thanks for all the information everyone!

 

 

 

[Organized Chaos]

16 hours ago, MJSailors said:

It is not so much the idea of keeping to a dress code,but rather making an occasion of dinner with the family.

 

I disagree with this in that "making the occasion with the family" is up to the family. I think it is more about the dress code because, as long as you're following the dress code, making the occasion is going to be different for everyone.

 

3 hours ago, bnbeyer said:

 

My son has a nice gray suit, dress shirts, and ties. He also has black slacks he wears to work. We live in farm country, and my boys prefer jeans and t-shirts. While my husband will pack and wear a suit if I ask him to, I'm not going to. If I'm not going to make him do it, I'm certainly not going to make my son. If it were an Alaskan cruise and not the Caribbean, maybe I'd feel different. We would definitely be packing heavier in that case.

 

Jeans and polos it is. Slacks for elegant nights. Thanks for all the information everyone!

 

I agree. Someone people may not want to pack, or just don't want to wear, a full suit (or more than one for families) when a shirt, tie, and pants are perfectly acceptable according to the dress code. I'm all for enforcing the dress code, but as long as someone follows it, then it's no one else's concern.

[Jenjer]

As the mom of a teen age boy I am very familiar with the uniform.  I would not bother with a sport coat....they are always hot. or a tie...OMG mom no way. We get some comfy American Eagle  pants and 2 button down shirts(Tjmax marshals have some great ones). He wears his black tennis shoes and boom he is set and no fights.

 

On other nights he will wear khaki shorts and polos. He might rewear the same polo 2x in a week, to save on packing.

 

Its not just the packing but also the reality that what fits him in June will not fit him in Sept so I see no need to overspend on dress clothing he will only wear to dinner on vacation. 

[Warm Breezes]

On 4/28/2019 at 12:03 AM, MJSailors said:

Agree with you,coeval.

I always thought that putting on a pair of khakis or dress pants is not much different than putting on shorts- two legs,a zipper,a button and,hopefully,a belt. 

IMHO,a young man of 17 should have a nice pair of dress pants,a long sleeved dress shirt and a tie and ,possibly,a jacket or blazer in his wardrobe. Never know when such an outfit may be needed- weddings,funerals,school events. The cost for these items can be kept down if you shop in places such as Marshall’s,Steinmart or TJMax or Land’s End. Certainly, one does not have to shop at Brooks Brothers to look neat and appropriate.

It is not so much the idea of keeping to a dress code,but rather making an occasion of dinner with the family. Again,IMHO, it is nothing if an event is not made into something by putting effort into it.

Now, I will take my soapbox and sign off !

Try doing that for a 17 year old who is 6'7", skinny as a rail,  and grew at a rate of 4" a year.  Normal pants do not fit.  They need to be special ordered.  Please don't be so fast to judge how expensive it is for a parent to keep a growing boy in dress clothes.  My son will be 25 in 2 weeks on our Magic cruise. Based on today's dress code for Carnival, per their hub,  I will be letting him know that he can where nice jeans on elegant night if he chooses too and shorts on the other nights if that is what he wants.  He is currently a sports editor for a newspaper, I have a feeling he hasn't worn his dress pants and/or shirt and tie since he was in high school.  His work attire consists of nice jeans  (which on their own aren't cheap as they need to be special ordered too) and a collared shirt.  No reason for him to purchase anything fancier for a cruise where it is not required anymore.  Thank goodness IMHO....one of the reasons we like sailing Carnival is for the relaxed dress code.  We are on vacation after all.  Now if I could only keep him from hitting his head on this cruise.  His last cruise he about took out the exit sign in the casino.

[grandmarnnurse]

48 minutes ago, Jenjer said:

As the mom of a teen age boy I am very familiar with the uniform.  I would not bother with a sport coat....they are always hot. or a tie...OMG mom no way. We get some comfy American Eagle  pants and 2 button down shirts(Tjmax marshals have some great ones). He wears his black tennis shoes and boom he is set and no fights.

 

On other nights he will wear khaki shorts and polos. He might rewear the same polo 2x in a week, to save on packing.

 

Its not just the packing but also the reality that what fits him in June will not fit him in Sept so I see no need to overspend on dress clothing he will only wear to dinner on vacation. 

Bravo, mom! Don’t let the fashion police bully you into doing something that just doesn’t fit your family. My hubby and I did the formal thing for many years, and finally said enough is enough. We were tired of lugging it, and wearing it. We went to NCL for their more casual atmosphere and Freestyle Cruising concept and loved it. But we always had more fun on Carnival, so when I read that they relaxed their dress code policy (thank god) we returned. We are very happy on Elegant night with my hubby in khakis and polo and other nights his cargo shorts and polo or Hawaiian print shirt. I have several nice dresses, none elegant by any means, along with some Capri sets. We are not youngsters trying to beat the dress code. We are senior citizens that have just tired of all that nonsense. If someone wants to dress up, go for it, but don’t be nasty to those that won’t. And let me just say that just because we are not dressed “elegantly”, we will never eat in the buffet on Elegant nights. Sorry, not sorry. 

[Jenjer]

wowzers 6'7" I feel some of your pain. My 15YO has grown about 4" since last summer to 6'1", he skipped mens large all together. He is not a rail, he has a HUGE frame so maybe that will help. With no end in sight to his growth  its 1 pair of shoes and minimal clothing because in a month it won't fit anyway. At this point its like dressing a baby all new clothing every time you turn around. Everything has to easy on and off. 

 

We cruise in June and I will buy his shoes in the coming weeks to make sure they fit..... I will get him sandal/slides if he wants

 

 

[Jenjer]

2 minutes ago, grandmarnnurse said:

Bravo, mom! Don’t let the fashion police bully you into doing something that just doesn’t fit your family. My hubby and I did the formal thing for many years, and finally said enough is enough. We were tired of lugging it, and wearing it. We went to NCL for their more casual atmosphere and Freestyle Cruising concept and loved it. But we always had more fun on Carnival, so when I read that they relaxed their dress code policy (thank god) we returned. We are very happy on Elegant night with my hubby in khakis and polo and other nights his cargo shorts and polo or Hawaiian print shirt. I have several nice dresses, none elegant by any means, along with some Capri sets. We are not youngsters trying to beat the dress code. We are senior citizens that have just tired of all that nonsense. If someone wants to dress up, go for it, but don’t be nasty to those that won’t. And let me just say that just because we are not dressed “elegantly”, we will never eat in the buffet on Elegant nights. Sorry, not sorry. 

 

 

Oh we have done the full formal before. Cruising has changed over the last 15 years, no need for a  jacket to sit on the back of your chair. Trying to take 1 checked bag per person, cuts down on wasteful packing. Teens are all about being comfortable. I would much rather cruise with a kid in jeans and tee shirt and manners, than anything else. 

 

My FIL will bring multiple sport coats ect and we have to take an extra uber because if his luggage. I cannot get him to just not, so I let my hubby deal with it. 

[OCruisers]

On 4/28/2019 at 12:03 AM, MJSailors said:

 

IMHO,a young man of 17 should have a nice pair of dress pants,a long sleeved dress shirt and a tie and ,possibly,a jacket or blazer in his wardrobe. Never know when such an outfit may be needed- weddings,funerals,school events.

 

Yes, great for him to have this type of clothes AT HOME.

Thing is ... he does NOT need to wear them on a Carnival cruise unless he wishes.  

[scoobikins]

Why is it so difficult for people to simply follow the dress code? It isn't that stringent, after all. Seems a lot of people think rules don't apply to them.

[coevan]

2 hours ago, Warm Breezes said:

My son will be 25 in 2 weeks on our Magic cruise.

 

 

pretty sure at 25 he can buy his own clothes and dress himself

[Warm Breezes]

1 minute ago, coevan said:

 

 

pretty sure at 25 he can buy his own clothes and dress himself

Pretty sure I didn’t say I purchased his clothes or dressed him now.  In fact he moved 1500 miles away 3 years ago when he graduated from college.  No helicopter mothering from me.   The discussion of purchasing his clothes was from when he was a teen.  The rest is my requested advice to an adult son who hasn’t been on a cruise in a few years and wanting to know how the rest of the family was dressing so he knew what to squeeze in his carry on when he flies out to meet us.  DH will be wearing dress pants, shirt and tie and DD and I dresses....but IMHO if he doesn’t want to spend his money buying dress clothes he doesn’t wear anywhere else, I am perfectly fine with him wearing nice jeans and a collared shirt.  That’s what I said in my post and what I told him when he asked me.  I haven’t seen him in 6 months.   I don’t care what he wears as long as we get to have some great quality time together.

[Organized Chaos]

2 hours ago, scoobikins said:

Why is it so difficult for people to simply follow the dress code? It isn't that stringent, after all. Seems a lot of people think rules don't apply to them.

 

Maybe I'm missing it, but the comments I've been reading aren't about breaking the dress code. Just because some are talking about not going all out with a jacket and tie doesn't mean they aren't following the dress code. So to that I say, why is it so difficult for some people to understand that not everyone cruises the same way?

 

2 hours ago, coevan said:

pretty sure at 25 he can buy his own clothes and dress himself

 

That user never said they buy his clothes and dress him. They're here getting advice on what would work best for their son. A mom never stops being a mom...not the good ones anyway. If you don't understand that, the problem isn't with the other person.

[Florings]

I'm thinking it wouldn't really be any different than what he has worn on Princess?

[grandmarnnurse]

5 minutes ago, Organized Chaos said:

 

Maybe I'm missing it, but the comments I've been reading aren't about breaking the dress code. Just because some are talking about not going all out with a jacket and tie doesn't mean they aren't following the dress code. So to that I say, why is it so difficult for some people to understand that not everyone cruises the same way?

 

 

That user never said they buy his clothes and dress him. They're here getting advice on what would work best for their son. A mom never stops being a mom...not the good ones anyway. If you don't understand that, the problem isn't with the other person.

Precisely! Nobody is breaking any rules. We just don’t care to wear sport coats and ties any longer! And they are no longer required, so no breaking of rules here. The fashion police needs to take a deep breath and relax. They can dress however they want, but not everyone cares to dress the same as them. I praise Carnival for going the more casual route, as that is how 99% of vacationers prefer to spend their vacations. It sure as hell isn't dragging extra formal wear on it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣