grandgeezer Posted August 11, 2023 #2726 Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 hours ago, island lady said: And of course the casino players never lose either. 😄 I know of nobody who has said they never lose. In fact non of the people have even said they were ahead over a period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzieanna Posted August 11, 2023 #2727 Share Posted August 11, 2023 People ask me about investing. I always say the following:- MOST IMPORTANT ONE only invest money you are prepared to lose. Don't get over your head. Buy stocks in fields you are interested in, because hopefully you will get some fun and education in your research. For example, my main stocks are in travel. I have lots of small investments in drug companies, some doing better than others, it has to be said.. But God I so much want to see a cure for cancer, a successful sepsis test, a way of identifying brain tumors easier, so I invest in stuff like this and pray for success with more than money in mind. . Amazon started as a penny stock. I have made good money in penny stocks, but I have had 2 companies go to the wall! Don't ever think a company is too big to fail. If someone is giving you financial advice, always think about their motives. They may be getting paid to push a certain thing - e.g. crypto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morecruisesplz Posted August 30, 2023 #2728 Share Posted August 30, 2023 "Your name matching the name on the reservation." is listed on the shareholder obc request. So if the joint venture statement has our names with middle initials but our reservation form does not have initials, is that considered not a match? I am trying to be sure that I get it right this try, after never our request for 3 cruises last Jan never got a response. Thx in advance for any advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted August 30, 2023 #2729 Share Posted August 30, 2023 52 minutes ago, fredmdcruisers said: "Your name matching the name on the reservation." is listed on the shareholder obc request. So if the joint venture statement has our names with middle initials but our reservation form does not have initials, is that considered not a match? I am trying to be sure that I get it right this try, after never our request for 3 cruises last Jan never got a response. Thx in advance for any advice. My broker statement has middle initial, my reservations do not. It's never been an issue for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jt4428 Posted September 1, 2023 #2730 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Can someone link the form for obc for owning RC stock? I can't seem to find it. TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted September 1, 2023 #2731 Share Posted September 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Jt4428 said: Can someone link the form for obc for owning RC stock? I can't seem to find it. TIA Here is the form, but many say just email works too. https://rcg.questionpro.com/a/TakeSurvey?tt=286lFZCRCioECHrPeIW9eQ%3D%3D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marci22 Posted September 1, 2023 #2732 Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 8/11/2023 at 6:33 AM, Suzieanna said: Don't ever think a company is too big to fail. This one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted September 1, 2023 #2733 Share Posted September 1, 2023 3 hours ago, marci22 said: This one. I’m sure that Enron, Lehman Brothers, Chrysler, the 52% of the 2020 Fortune 500, and many more felt the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare nimbex1970 Posted September 1, 2023 #2734 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Dunno, looking at selling. We bought at $32 and it's $97. Only the 100 shares. I thinks it's going to sit stagnant and with interest rates rising, might be better in CD's. Anyone thinking along this line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted September 1, 2023 #2735 Share Posted September 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, nimbex1970 said: Dunno, looking at selling. We bought at $32 and it's $97. Only the 100 shares. I thinks it's going to sit stagnant and with interest rates rising, might be better in CD's. Anyone thinking along this line? I posted above I sold at 104.25. Called my sell. It's in a channel right now 96ish to 101ish. Near the bottom of the trading channel right now, I suspect you can get a little more with the right timing. Closer around 100. It's on a list of trades I've seen posted. It's in play. The list is titled stocks that doubled this year, as if that makes it a good trade. I'm hoping for a break below 96 to buy my shares back but before next earnings. I do expect another pop next earnings. 96ish has been the lowest since last earnings, I'm watching for a break lower, so far no. Friday when traders are jumping out is a better time to buy before close than to sell imo. I think by monday you can get more than 97. Today the market, and tech tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted September 1, 2023 #2736 Share Posted September 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, nimbex1970 said: Dunno, looking at selling. We bought at $32 and it's $97. Only the 100 shares. I thinks it's going to sit stagnant and with interest rates rising, might be better in CD's. Anyone thinking along this line? I'm in stocks but managing my parents who have a lot of tax free funds and treasuries. I rolled over 6 month treasuries over 5.5% just last friday, now below 5.5%. Traders are betting no more rate hikes. I think wages are sticky and 2% isnt that in the bag. Otherwise I'd have done 1 year. Talking heads say they know there will be rate drops early in 2024, and I dont think they are correct. Market has said they dont believe Powell for a year, and been wrong. This just tracks treasuries .. but you can see rates are dropping right now, not going up. https://www.cnbc.com/bonds/ There is another thought of buying stocks with over 5% dividends. I was looking at oil stocks but the dividend percentage is dropping today as oil goes up, but there are several I'm interested in. Oil been in the 78 to 82 range and just broke up out of range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare nimbex1970 Posted September 1, 2023 #2737 Share Posted September 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, firefly333 said: I'm in stocks but managing my parents who have a lot of tax free funds and treasuries. I rolled over 6 month treasuries over 5.5% just last friday, now below 5.5%. Traders are betting no more rate hikes. I think wages are sticky and 2% isnt that in the bag. Otherwise I'd have done 1 year. Talking heads say they know there will be rate drops early in 2024, and I dont think they are correct. Market has said they dont believe Powell for a year, and been wrong. This just tracks treasuries .. but you can see rates are dropping right now, not going up. https://www.cnbc.com/bonds/ There is another thought of buying stocks with over 5% dividends. I was looking at oil stocks but the dividend percentage is dropping today as oil goes up, but there are several I'm interested in. Oil been in the 78 to 82 range and just broke up out of range. I dumped my oil about 4 months ago, eeek missed the surge! Still made a nice profit as they were in the dumps 2020 when purchased. I'm worried about the rates as well, but I'm seeing RCCL specifically being a net ratio of stagnant and looking to move it off. Obviously not buying back into oil, lol. We aren't paying off the home at 2.65, we are buying CD's each pay instead, at 5.1 through Ally bank, but I'm thinking the cruise stocks will be stagnant for at least a year, where I can better my investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare nimbex1970 Posted September 1, 2023 #2738 Share Posted September 1, 2023 traders at 5.5? I'm 53, and fine with my 5.1, need that safety net at this age, what are you doing with cruise stocks.. I'm unsure with 5.5, wanna share more info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted September 1, 2023 #2739 Share Posted September 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, nimbex1970 said: traders at 5.5? I'm 53, and fine with my 5.1, need that safety net at this age, what are you doing with cruise stocks.. I'm unsure with 5.5, wanna share more info? Confused what you are asking. I posted a link to treasuries. The 6 month a week ago well over 5.5 today a pinch below 5.5% .. the link is to current treasuries. I personally love oil stocks and their dividends. Dvn popping today. 6.8% dividend. Was at 8% but stock is moving today so dividend percentage is lower. CNBC someone said this morning their bet is oil stays over $80 for the rest of 2023. There are others paying over 5% dividends. Berkshire loves oxy. I'm not tech enough to understand the tech side of cleaning oil or whatever is the big draw, I dont own oxy. I have a lot of dividend stocks, that's what pays for my cruises. I have to be very good or I cant support myself. Been doing stocks 50 years. No retirement coming in, havent worked in over 20 years and at most half of the time before that. I mostly have flipped houses and done stock trading. I love dividends, though I know I'm missing out on the fast track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruisn'Kay Posted September 4, 2023 #2740 Share Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/1/2023 at 4:47 AM, firefly333 said: Here is the form, but many say just email works too. https://rcg.questionpro.com/a/TakeSurvey?tt=286lFZCRCioECHrPeIW9eQ%3D%3D Is this a new online form? Last time I printed then scanned their form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted September 4, 2023 #2741 Share Posted September 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, Kruisn'Kay said: Is this a new online form? Last time I printed then scanned their form. This method has been available for awhile. I am pretty sure that you can still do it as you have in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted September 5, 2023 #2742 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Rcl finally broke below its trading channel. CNBC is talking about when travel ends, and talking down carnival. Rcl kinda will follow ccl. 94ish right now. I had been looking for a entry in the 90 to 93 range .. finally close. And I've watched since earnings. Chart broke this morning. The traders trading this dont know rcl from a hole in the head, they just watch the charts. This is a big break lower chart wise. We will see where it is closer to earnings as I will be back in before earnings. New range going to be established. Not sure what jim cramer meant about no new ships after these .. as regarding ccl earnings. I'm still out but looking now to re enter. .. just calling it so later someone doesnt say easy to call later. I've called all my rcl trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Barracuda Posted September 5, 2023 #2743 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 hours ago, firefly333 said: Rcl finally broke below its trading channel. CNBC is talking about when travel ends, and talking down carnival. Rcl kinda will follow ccl. 94ish right now. I had been looking for a entry in the 90 to 93 range .. finally close. And I've watched since earnings. Chart broke this morning. The traders trading this dont know rcl from a hole in the head, they just watch the charts. This is a big break lower chart wise. We will see where it is closer to earnings as I will be back in before earnings. New range going to be established. Not sure what jim cramer meant about no new ships after these .. as regarding ccl earnings. I'm still out but looking now to re enter. .. just calling it so later someone doesnt say easy to call later. I've called all my rcl trades. Two months ago oil was below $70 now $87. Last quarter RCL reported they were 55% hedged for remainder of this year and 25% next year. They estimated full year impact of a 10% rise in fuel is -$111MM. So at current price that's vulnerability of -$222MM. Another impact of rising fuel will be higher airfares which travelers must take into consideration when deciding whether to book a cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted September 5, 2023 #2744 Share Posted September 5, 2023 52 minutes ago, Baron Barracuda said: Two months ago oil was below $70 now $87. Last quarter RCL reported they were 55% hedged for remainder of this year and 25% next year. They estimated full year impact of a 10% rise in fuel is -$111MM. So at current price that's vulnerability of -$222MM. Another impact of rising fuel will be higher airfares which travelers must take into consideration when deciding whether to book a cruise. I saw end of last week oil broke out. I watched to confirm and at open added more DVN. A oil with a 6% dividend. Yesterday Charles Payne guest mentioned oil is at lowest inventories in 10 years. I sat up and said buying more oil at open. The inventory level is what made me say buy NOW, has to kick in. I'll hold until probably next January. Oil always does well in the winter for me. CNBC guest says oil will stay above 80 for the rest of the year. Saudi confirmed cuts for the rest of the year. Oil is my heaviest position, because of dividends. The low inventory imo is the most important indication to watch. Diesel is shorter supply especially. I was thinking it will hurt ccl especially as they do not hedge, but not helpful to rcl. Higher rates for longer fed mantra is still not fully priced in either imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted September 5, 2023 #2745 Share Posted September 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, firefly333 said: Yesterday Charles Payne guest mentioned oil is at lowest inventories in 10 years. Not quite... 'The latest EIA numbers show that US commercial crude oil inventories fell by 10.58MMbbls over the last week, which leaves total crude oil inventories at 422.94MMbbls – the lowest level since December 2022." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Barracuda Posted September 5, 2023 #2746 Share Posted September 5, 2023 4 hours ago, yogimax said: Not quite... 'The latest EIA numbers show that US commercial crude oil inventories fell by 10.58MMbbls over the last week, which leaves total crude oil inventories at 422.94MMbbls – the lowest level since December 2022." Also in a little over two years the SPR has been reduced from roughly 650mm barrels to 350 million. At some point that will have to be replenished likely pushing prices higher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted September 8, 2023 #2747 Share Posted September 8, 2023 On 9/5/2023 at 12:22 PM, yogimax said: Not quite... 'The latest EIA numbers show that US commercial crude oil inventories fell by 10.58MMbbls over the last week, which leaves total crude oil inventories at 422.94MMbbls – the lowest level since December 2022." CNBC the hosts, cramer and that other guy just made a off hand comment inventories at 40 year low. The price is at your date, not inventories. These hosts cant all be wrong. Doesnt matter just another host said it too, cnbc. Not the best for cruiselines, higher oil. And this has been a up week for oil, it broke out chart wise. Lots of higher highs, mortgage rate, treasuries, take your pick. I'm watching numbers. RCL bounced right back from mid 94s, very strong. It had dropped on ccl comments, then came right back. Zacks is predicting great earnings for rcl. I'm very bullish. All in before next earnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted October 26, 2023 #2748 Share Posted October 26, 2023 " Royal Caribbean Group today reported third quarter Earnings per Share of $3.65 and Adjusted EPS of $3.85 for the third quarter of 2023. These results were better than the company’s guidance due to stronger close-in demand and further strength in onboard revenue, the company said in a press release. The company is also increasing its full year 2023 Adjusted EPS guidance to $6.58 – $6.63, driven by strong demand and continued strength in onboard revenue. “The strength of our brands and the acceleration of consumer spending on experiences have propelled us towards another outstanding quarter and a robust 2023,” said Jason Liberty, president and CEO, Royal Caribbean Group. “Looking ahead, we see accelerating demand as we build the business for 2024. Our booked load factors are higher than all prior years and at higher rates, further supporting our trajectory towards the Trifecta goals,” added Liberty. “The combination of our leading brands, the best people, and the most innovative fleet and destinations, positions us exceptionally well to deliver on a lifetime of vacation experiences while creating long-term shareholder value.” Third Quarter 2023 Results: Gross Margin Yields increased 19.1% As-Reported, and Net Yields increased 16.7% in Constant-Currency (16.9% As-Reported), both compared to the third quarter of 2019. Gross Cruise Costs per Available Passenger Cruise Day (“APCD”) increased 14.4% As-Reported, and Net Cruise Costs (“NCC”), excluding Fuel, per APCD increased 10.3% in Constant-Currency (10.1% As-Reported), both compared to the third quarter of 2019. Total revenues were $4.2 billion, Net Income was $1.0 billion or $3.65 per share, Adjusted Net Income was $1.1 billion or $3.85 per share, Adjusted EBITDA was $1.7 billion. Full Year 2023 Outlook: Net Yields are expected to increase 12.9% to 13.4% in Constant-Currency (12.4% to 12.9% As-Reported), compared to 2019. NCC, excluding Fuel, per APCD is expected to be up 7.0% to 7.5% in Constant-Currency (6.5% to 7.0% As-Reported), compared to 2019, and includes approximately 30 basis points impact due primarily to reduced APCDs on cancelled Israel and related sailings. Fuel pricing and foreign exchange rates are negatively impacting EPS by $0.18, compared to prior guidance. In addition, impacted sailings related to Israel deployment is expected to impact the year by approximately $0.03. Adjusted EPS is expected to be in the range of $6.58 to $6.63 per share. Third Quarter 2023 The company reported Net Income for the third quarter of $1.0 billion or $3.65 per share compared to Net Income of $33.0 million or $0.13 per share for the same period in the prior year. The company also reported Adjusted Net Income of $1.1 billion or $3.85 per share for the third quarter compared to Adjusted Net Income of $65.8 million or $0.26 per share for the same period in the prior year. Gross Margin Yields increased 19.1% As-Reported, and Net Yields increased 16.7% in Constant-Currency (16.9% As-Reported) when compared to the third quarter of 2019. Third quarter revenue across North America and Europe itineraries exceeded expectations due to better close-in demand that translated into higher load factors and pricing, as well as continued strength in onboard revenue. Load factor for the third quarter was 110%. Gross Cruise Costs per APCD increased 14.4% As-Reported, compared to 2019. NCC, excluding Fuel, per APCD increased 10.1% As-Reported and 10.3% in Constant-Currency, compared to 2019. Lower operating expenses, as well as favorable timing, contributed to better-than-expected costs. Revenue Environment and 2024 Outlook Bookings remained strong throughout the third quarter, significantly exceeding 2019 levels. Closer-in demand for 2023 sailings exceeded expectations, contributing to higher load factors at higher prices and higher onboard revenue for the third quarter. Consumer spending onboard, as well as pre-cruise purchases, continue to significantly exceed 2019 levels driven by greater participation at higher prices. As of September 30, 2023, the Group’s customer deposit balance was at $5.0 billion. Demand for 2024 has continued to accelerate, with bookings significantly and consistently outpacing 2019 levels. Booked load factors and rates are higher than all prior years while the booking window has continued to extend. The market response to the company’s new ships, existing hardware, and the expansion of Perfect Day at CocoCay, and Hideaway Beach, has been excellent and further positions the company for strong yield and earnings growth in 2024. Fourth Quarter 2023 Net Yields are expected to be up 16.2% to 16.7% in Constant-Currency and 15.0% to 15.5% As-Reported, both compared to the fourth quarter of 2019. Continued strong demand for the company’s vacation experiences and strength in onboard revenue contributes to increased yield expectations for the fourth quarter. NCC, excluding Fuel, per APCD for the quarter are expected to increase 3.9% to 4.4% in Constant-Currency and 3.3% to 3.8% As-Reported, both compared to the fourth quarter of 2019. Fuel pricing and foreign exchange rates are negatively impacting EPS by $0.15, versus previous expectations. Impacted sailings related to Israel deployment are negatively impacting the quarter by approximately $0.03. Based on current fuel pricing, interest and currency exchange rates and the factors detailed above, the company expects fourth quarter Adjusted EPS to be $1.05 to $1.10 per share. “The performance of our business continues to accelerate, driven by strong demand and excellent operational execution,” said Naftali Holtz, chief financial officer at Royal Caribbean Group. “Our formula of moderate yield growth, strong cost discipline, and moderate growth of our fleet delivers a strong financial profile and enhanced margins.” Royal Caribbean Reports Q3 Results, Increases Guidance - Cruise Industry News | Cruise News 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeMissSeaView Posted October 26, 2023 #2749 Share Posted October 26, 2023 The question is, will they pay a dividend or just pay off debt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverbeenhere Posted October 26, 2023 #2750 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) They need to take $ 10 or $15 off the debt total before paying dividends. So, maybe two more years at this pace. Edited October 26, 2023 by neverbeenhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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