Chiliburn Posted May 27, 2020 #1 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Anyone had experience with lift and shift in Australia. We have a couple of cruises and just getting prepared if they don’t happen. Lift and shift has to be done by 1 August ,so there’s 2 months to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaylacool Posted May 27, 2020 #2 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I'm in Australia but booked Alaskan cruise on Celebrity with US online travel agency (TA) in January this year to have sailed on May 29, 2020. This morning made contact with TA and have arranged for lift and shift of Celebrity cruise. Same cruise itinerary didn't have to pay anything extra just shifted orginal booking and OBC over to date in June 2021. All went very smoothly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted May 27, 2020 Author #3 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Thanks Kaylacool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banzaii Posted May 28, 2020 #4 Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 1:26 PM, Chiliburn said: Anyone had experience with lift and shift in Australia. We have a couple of cruises and just getting prepared if they don’t happen. Lift and shift has to be done by 1 August ,so there’s 2 months to think about it. I don't think you'll find too many here who can use Lift and Shift because the Australian Itineraries are only out until April 2021. If they ever release 2021-22 Ozdeployment, there may be more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted May 28, 2020 Author #5 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, banzaii said: I don't think you'll find too many here who can use Lift and Shift because the Australian Itineraries are only out until April 2021. If they ever release 2021-22 Ozdeployment, there may be more. I was thinking that. Our 21-22 season is overdue, I suppose they are wondering if the will still be in business. Hopefully they release the season buy 1 August or extend the date. Edited May 28, 2020 by Chiliburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banzaii Posted May 29, 2020 #6 Share Posted May 29, 2020 While sime other companies have released new itineraries and even whole seasons, RCCL seems reluctant to do so. This cuts Oz itineraries from a 18-24 month booking window to something very different. Shame this forces cancellations and refunds rather than other options that allow them to hold onto our deposits to help with bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerbill Posted May 29, 2020 #7 Share Posted May 29, 2020 With a final balance looming way too close to the proposed date for ports to open I decided to take advantage of Royals “ Cruise with Confidence” offer to convert our booking deposit into a cruise credit, fingers crossed the latter 2021 itineraries aren’t too far away 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banzaii Posted May 29, 2020 #8 Share Posted May 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, badgerbill said: With a final balance looming way too close to the proposed date for ports to open I decided to take advantage of Royals “ Cruise with Confidence” offer to convert our booking deposit into a cruise credit, fingers crossed the latter 2021 itineraries aren’t too far away 🙂 Have you seen the announcement that Australia has banned cruising until 17 September? Don't know if your cruise was local but that alone virtually rules out the schedulled Trans-Pacific relocation cruises as is. So I don't blame you for cancelling. My feelings are along similar lines but if 2021 cruises don't appear prior to final payment date, I am requesting a refund as we have no real access to more attractive options - no lift shift, no delayed final payment, no 125% FCC - so why would I leave my $8K with RCCL? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilonBoard Posted June 6, 2020 #9 Share Posted June 6, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 1:26 PM, Chiliburn said: Anyone had experience with lift and shift in Australia. We have a couple of cruises and just getting prepared if they don’t happen. Lift and shift has to be done by 1 August ,so there’s 2 months to think about it. We had B2B cruises out of Venice on Royal Caribbean scheduled for September this year. With the final balance almost due and uncertainty regarding a September departure we did a Lift and Shift to September 2021. The non refundable deposit transferred over to an almost identical itinerary and now the balance is not due till June 2021. Also we have our 2020 prices guaranteed. If you are prepared to postpone for 12 months the Lift and Shift option works well to avoid paying the final balance on a cruise you suspect will be cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted June 6, 2020 Author #10 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, NeilonBoard said: We had B2B cruises out of Venice on Royal Caribbean scheduled for September this year. With the final balance almost due and uncertainty regarding a September departure we did a Lift and Shift to September 2021. The non refundable deposit transferred over to an almost identical itinerary and now the balance is not due till June 2021. Also we have our 2020 prices guaranteed. If you are prepared to postpone for 12 months the Lift and Shift option works well to avoid paying the final balance on a cruise you suspect will be cancelled. Thanks NeilonBoard Im thinking if this season doesn’t go ahead we will lift &shift. We have full suites and we can transfer to ovation or quantum for next year. where were you going to stay in Venice? As which hotel? Edited June 6, 2020 by Chiliburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilonBoard Posted June 7, 2020 #11 Share Posted June 7, 2020 23 hours ago, Chiliburn said: Thanks NeilonBoard Im thinking if this season doesn’t go ahead we will lift &shift. We have full suites and we can transfer to ovation or quantum for next year. where were you going to stay in Venice? As which hotel? I am sure you are already aware that you must keep the same cabin category to Lift and Shift. As you have pointed out you can change ships but you must leave from the same departure port and travel for the same number of nights in the same location. Unfortunately not everyone has been able to match their cruise 12 months later and the Lift and Shift option does not work for them. Others that have used L&S have found that by freezing their 2020 prices there are considerable savings to be made on the advertised 2021 rates. We booked one night in Venice prior to departure at the Agli Artisti Hotel. Don't know much about it but it's reasonably priced and close to the cruise departure terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted June 7, 2020 Author #12 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I haven’t stayed at that hotel in Venice but it looks pretty central. if you can lift and shift to a larger ship? That’s we were thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted June 11, 2020 Author #13 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) There seems to be a few discrepancies with the lift&shift . Apparently it’s for schedules released before May 6 and even that it’s advertised you can’t shift to a bigger ship.( radiance or voyager to quantum class) Has anyone tested this? I also like to add it has to be done by August 1. So you have 7 weeks. That Ozzie agent has the new season. Edited June 11, 2020 by Chiliburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 8, 2020 Author #14 Share Posted August 8, 2020 A update on Royal Caribbean’s terms. https://www.royalcaribbean.com/aus/en/cruise-ships/itinerary-updates Looks like you can get a refund if you originally wanted a Future Cruise Credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted August 8, 2020 #15 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Lift and Shift? Never heard that term before, must be another Americanism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 8, 2020 Author #16 Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, NSWP said: Lift and Shift? Never heard that term before, must be another Americanism. Didn’t you ever drive a column change uncle les ? Same thing Edited August 8, 2020 by Chiliburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted August 9, 2020 #17 Share Posted August 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: Didn’t you ever drive a column change uncle les ? Same thing I drive a manual, yet I don't understand "lift and shift". Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted August 9, 2020 #18 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Can’t find one for my December cruise to lift and shift to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted August 9, 2020 #19 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Lift and shift let’s you change your cruise to same cruise next year at the price you booked for, in a nut shell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted August 9, 2020 #20 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: Didn’t you ever drive a column change uncle les ? Same thing Of course, with a crash gear box, no syncromesh. When I was in the Army Reserve, circa 1969, we had left over US Army Studebaker trucks from WW2, crash gear box. My first car was, don't laugh..a 64 Hillman Imp, 4 speed manual. Now I am lazy and drive an auto, like most people. I had a dark green one of these.. Edited August 9, 2020 by NSWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted August 9, 2020 #21 Share Posted August 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, NSWP said: Of course, with a crash gear box, no syncromesh. What I learnt to drive on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum52 Posted August 9, 2020 #22 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, NSWP said: Of course, with a crash gear box, no syncromesh. When I was in the Army Reserve, circa 1969, we had left over US Army Studebaker trucks from WW2, crash gear box. My first car was, don't laugh..a 64 Hillman Imp, 4 speed manual. Now I am lazy and drive an auto, like most people. I had a dark green one of these.. My first car was a 1966 Austin 1100. Manual of course. I still drive a manual but now wish I had bought an automatic as my left shoulder doesn't like the shift gears any more. When I bought my Mitsubishi Mirage, the salesman was amazed that I wanted a manual! Most older ladies want an automatic he told me. Leigh Edited August 9, 2020 by possum52 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 9, 2020 Author #23 Share Posted August 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, MMDown Under said: I drive a manual, yet I don't understand "lift and shift". Please explain. I don’t know where it comes from but it’s RCG’s term for lifting your booking and shifting one year forward. Just like lifting the column change and moving up a gear. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 9, 2020 Author #24 Share Posted August 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, GUT2407 said: Can’t find one for my December cruise to lift and shift to. Unfortunately we don’t have a cruise to move to ,our final payment date is in about 4 weeks.I won’t be paying it but my friends want to.They are blindly hopeful of going,they just want to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted August 9, 2020 #25 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Chiliburn said: Unfortunately we don’t have a cruise to move to ,our final payment date is in about 4 weeks.I won’t be paying it but my friends want to.They are blindly hopeful of going,they just want to go. Now is the time for common sense. I wouldn't be paying any more money to cruise lines until cruise ships are tied up to the wharf in Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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