New NCL Casino Rules

[larry_s_taco]

On 5/30/2020 at 9:32 AM, drvmywifecrzy said:

 

But I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night

LOL🙂

[fshagan]

On 5/27/2020 at 4:29 PM, Lou33 said:

Something that I don't understand is that casinos want to limit the number of guests anyway, so why not have a temporary ban on smoking and require masks for all guests?

 

How can they ply you with cheap booze so your inhibitions are reduced, so you will then spend too much money gambling?

 

They could ban smoking, but they want the customers to "have fun" (be drunk and carefree).

[Georgia_Peaches]

On 5/27/2020 at 7:29 PM, Lou33 said:

The people who choose not to wear masks are the very people that you need to watch out for.   If they won't wear a mask in a casino, then they probably didn't practice social distancing anywhere else.  And they can't wear a mask while smoking their cigarettes and coughing away.  They don't care about their own health so they certainly don't care if they infect others.  

Wow!  What a complete load of bologna!  How is it that you can draw such conclusions simply because one does not wear a mask?  Like so much these days, this statement is an unbelievable, baseless over generalization.  I believe in the merits of mask wearing but I do not presume to know the intentions or health habits of those who don't wear a mask.  

Edited June 4, 2020 by Georgia_Peaches

[spiritkat090909]

On 5/27/2020 at 11:46 PM, fastpitchdad said:

 

How in the world would they know that nobody has gotten the virus from a surface? 

It's beginning to look to me like they are just making it up as they go along.  Whatever suits the pied piper tune of the day...and change it the next. I'm beginning to feel like a marionette!

[Jobeth66]

3 minutes ago, spiritkat090909 said:

It's beginning to look to me like they are just making it up as they go along.  Whatever suits the pied piper tune of the day...and change it the next. I'm beginning to feel like a marionette!

 

Oh.  My.  See, this is how science works.  You examine what you know, and then you form a hypothesis, and then you test the hypothesis.  As things fail and your hypothesis does not hold up, you reform your hypothesis around what you do know.  

 

Making changes based on new facts and observations is a feature, not a bug.  Admission that one was wrong about something is not cause to disregard everything else that person may say in the future.  It just means that they found new evidence that doesn't support the prior belief.

 

They're not 'making it up as they go along', they are refining what they know and throwing out what doesn't match the facts.  This is a GOOD thing.

[spiritkat090909]

On 5/28/2020 at 8:55 AM, MsTabbyKats said:

Ugh.  My local casino is smoke free.  I deal with smoking on ships because I don't have a choice .....

 

Actually, there IS a choice. Celebrity has smoke free casinos and it is very nice.  They still have many players, it is still hard to get on the UTH table. 🙂

 

 The occasional problem is a die hard nicotine addict leaving the table for a slurpdown and interrupting the routine of the play.  SMALL price to pay for cleaner air without Covid droplets that you can SEE floating towards you because of the smoke highlights. Or plain old ordinary secondhand bad breath smoke.

 

I'm just haunting NCL boards for the comeback info...and I have read everything else. 

[MsTabbyKats]

16 minutes ago, spiritkat090909 said:

Actually, there IS a choice. Celebrity has smoke free casinos and it is very nice.  They still have many players, it is still hard to get on the UTH table. 🙂

 

 The occasional problem is a die hard nicotine addict leaving the table for a slurpdown and interrupting the routine of the play.  SMALL price to pay for cleaner air without Covid droplets that you can SEE floating towards you because of the smoke highlights. Or plain old ordinary secondhand bad breath smoke.

 

I'm just haunting NCL boards for the comeback info...and I have read everything else. 

From one cat to another....NCL Bliss has a glass enclosed area in the casino where smokers can smoke to their heart's content.

[spiritkat090909]

15 minutes ago, Jobeth66 said:

 

Oh.  My.  See, this is how science works.  You examine what you know, and then you form a hypothesis, and then you test the hypothesis.  As things fail and your hypothesis does not hold up, you reform your hypothesis around what you do know.  

 

Making changes based on new facts and observations is a feature, not a bug.  Admission that one was wrong about something is not cause to disregard everything else that person may say in the future.  It just means that they found new evidence that doesn't support the prior belief.

 

They're not 'making it up as they go along', they are refining what they know and throwing out what doesn't match the facts.  This is a GOOD thing.

 

No humor?

 

   OK...so here is what I have come up with from the 'data' PRESENTED to me, without 'peer review':  The Sars2 virus, which causes covid 19 disease and currently has a .5 percent infection rate in the US, as of statistics presented yesterday in the morning, central time...it is affected by factors of humidity, vitamin D/UV rays (C or B/A unknown or unproven), and who knows what else.  The Fauci advise went from mask doesn't help, save it for the health pros, to wear it to help others, to the latest of it helps keep himself from GETTING it?!  And I don't trust that. Sorry. His credibility is shot, for me. As is the WHO has has the other parts of the world on different protocols than they recommend for the USA? I listen and hypothesize my own risk vs freedom factors. The 'experts' have shown their hand, IMO. They have an agenda.

 

What I have decided is that it is more infectious than any other heretofore known virus, most probably a weaponized version of the original SARS.  At present time, it is extremely deadly to those with co-morbidity factors and the elderly.  The herd immunity factor has not been in play in our nation, but appears to be doing fine for Sweden, Brazil not so much.  There also seems to be a immunity factor in play for those who have been previously immunized or on treatments for malaria. Hmm... more hypothesis there. 

 

SO...my personal bottom line is I need to be prepared if I go out into ANY public situation, from gas station, crowds, grocery stores, at home among family members who have gone who-knows-where and whether they have hit the shower (wash that hair, don't forget the glasses and phone, either) and dumped their clothes and shoes immediately upon return.

 

  I will get this virus, IF it is as bad as they would have us believe. Whether I survive or not depends on my own body and immune factors, God's Hand. Unless I stay at home, NEVER go out in public without a N95 respirator, eat at home and have deliveries.  Which, I HAVE as a poultry producer... aka dumb farmer to the people who eat a couple of million pounds of chicken per year from my bio-secure farm.  😉

 

FWIW...I'm resuming life as normal. I'd rather die than live a half-life. I obey the mandated rules out of respect for those with less faith.

[spiritkat090909]

Oh, wow...I was WRONG.. not a MATH major. I had to fact check myself, just in case. 

 

According to google, in 2020 there are 331,002,651 United States citizens. Today's worldometers dot info says the current covid infection rate is 1,905,018 US citizens.  Divide that and it comes to .005%.  Well... maybe I won't get it after all.  Science. Or math. Does it really make a difference? Where do you draw the line of information as to what you are told vs. what the numbers are saying?

[larry_s_taco]

36 minutes ago, spiritkat090909 said:

Oh, wow...I was WRONG.. not a MATH major. I had to fact check myself, just in case. 

 

According to google, in 2020 there are 331,002,651 United States citizens. Today's worldometers dot info says the current covid infection rate is 1,905,018 US citizens.  Divide that and it comes to .005%.  Well... maybe I won't get it after all.  Science. Or math. Does it really make a difference? Where do you draw the line of information as to what you are told vs. what the numbers are saying?

Darwin was an amazing fellow.

[Jobeth66]

2 hours ago, spiritkat090909 said:

Oh, wow...I was WRONG.. not a MATH major. I had to fact check myself, just in case. 

 

According to google, in 2020 there are 331,002,651 United States citizens. Today's worldometers dot info says the current covid infection rate is 1,905,018 US citizens.  Divide that and it comes to .005%.  Well... maybe I won't get it after all.  Science. Or math. Does it really make a difference? Where do you draw the line of information as to what you are told vs. what the numbers are saying?

 

Where do I draw the line?  With personal friends having died or nearly died related to this virus - otherwise healthy and not 'elderly' in 2 situations.  One was on a vent for 4 weeks and made an amazing recovery.

 

I trust the scientists to keep doing the science that keeps us safer, and I'll follow their recommendations, EVEN AS THEY CHANGE as new information becomes available.  This virus was unknown a few short months ago, so information is coming in quickly and they have to decipher it and figure out what works and what doesn't.  I trust them way more than someone who has decided, with no evidence, that it's a 'weaponized version of SARS' despite all evidence to the contrary.

 

But that's just me.  It doesn't hurt me to curtail my trips to the grocery store and to wear a mask to protect others.  It doesn't affect my life very negatively (though I'm going through physical therapy for an injury, and exercising with a mask on is absolutely no fun, but it's certainly not killing me).

[SteveH2508]

4 hours ago, spiritkat090909 said:

Oh, wow...I was WRONG.. not a MATH major. I had to fact check myself, just in case. 

 

According to google, in 2020 there are 331,002,651 United States citizens. Today's worldometers dot info says the current covid infection rate is 1,905,018 US citizens.  Divide that and it comes to .005%.  Well... maybe I won't get it after all.  Science. Or math. Does it really make a difference? Where do you draw the line of information as to what you are told vs. what the numbers are saying?

Actually your figures show a percentage of about 0.58% (only out by a factor of 100).

[BirdTravels]

6 hours ago, MsTabbyKats said:

From one cat to another....NCL Bliss has a glass enclosed area in the casino where smokers can smoke to their heart's content.

As does the Joy and Encore. 

[Lou33]

9 hours ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

Wow!  What a complete load of bologna!  How is it that you can draw such conclusions simply because one does not wear a mask?  Like so much these days, this statement is an unbelievable, baseless over generalization.  I believe in the merits of mask wearing but I do not presume to know the intentions or health habits of those who don't wear a mask.  

 

Yes, I do think that it's fair to generalize that people who refuse to wear masks in a casino and/or smoke cigarettes are less concerned about their health and the health of others.  If I were in a casino, and somebody came up next to me without a mask, I would be concerned.  That never happens in stores were masks are required.

 

If I owned a casino and I asked patrons: "Hey, the world needs your help during this pandemic.  We ask that you wear a mask to protect others and yourself.  And by the way, you can't smoke while you're wearing a mask."  I think most people would be happy to comply.  But if they said.  "I don't care, I aint wearin' no mask, and I wanna smoke my cigarettes."  Those are the people who I would not want in my casino.  

[coffeebean]

On 5/27/2020 at 2:56 PM, UDKO said:

Hi All,

 

Has anyone heard what NCL is doing in the casino to keep things cleaner?  Spacing out slot machines? Person limits at table games?  Policy for cleaning chips?  Cards?  I'm sure there is a lot involved to get things going again. 

 

Cheers

 

UDKO

That would be an impossible feat. How about you DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE for starters. I've been doing that for 3 months now and it has become a good habit which I will probably continue to do forever.

 

[coffeebean]

On 5/27/2020 at 11:23 PM, MrMike45 said:

those bars weren’t closed and making $0 money for the last 2+ months though. That’s the point I was making. These casinos need revenue...badly. Disallowing smoking lessens their potential clientele and ability to get back on their feet. 
 

I am not trying to turn this into a smoking debate. Just pointing out. If I owned a casino and I’m trying to keep my business afloat I wouldn’t want to tell a large portion of my patrons sorry, you can’t come. 

 

On 5/27/2020 at 11:23 PM, MrMike45 said:

those bars weren’t closed and making $0 money for the last 2+ months though. That’s the point I was making. These casinos need revenue...badly. Disallowing smoking lessens their potential clientele and ability to get back on their feet. 
 

I am not trying to turn this into a smoking debate. Just pointing out. If I owned a casino and I’m trying to keep my business afloat I wouldn’t want to tell a large portion of my patrons sorry, you can’t come. 

That is not the message the smokers would be getting. The message is you can come in but you can not smoke.

[coffeebean]

On 5/28/2020 at 4:37 AM, Casino Comp Chick said:

Not true. I live 15-20 minutes from a non smoking casino that I do not go to. I would rather drive 2.5 hours and go to a casino I can smoke in. 
Same thing with restaurants, if they do not have an outdoor deck I can smoke on, I do not go there either.

Don't make blanket assumptions due to your own bias as people who assume............

I quit smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day for 35 years and did it cold turkey. The reason I quit? I was tired of having to go somewhere else to smoke a cigarette and what you said (in bold text) is the reason I quit. No more addiction and I'm a happy camper now since 2005.

[coffeebean]

On 5/28/2020 at 9:24 AM, CruiseMH said:

 

I think it would be much easier if every player would simply wear disposable gloves.Once they finish playing they throw them in extra garbage boxes and leave the casino.Then there would be much less need to sanitize everything so ectremely.

 

That isn't how it works. Wearing gloves is not any more sanitary than your own skin. All it takes is for someone to sneeze or cough into their gloved hand and now all those germs are on the gloves. Gloves are best used by health care professionals, not the general public.

[chipmaster]

4 minutes ago, coffeebean said:

That isn't how it works. Wearing gloves is not any more sanitary than your own skin. All it takes is for someone to sneeze or cough into their gloved hand and now all those germs are on the gloves. Gloves are best used by health care professionals, not the general public.

 

I guess all those people who handle our food it's a waste, sorry that is not correct.

[coffeebean]

On 5/28/2020 at 10:28 AM, MsTabbyKats said:

Sorry, I wasn't clear but I'm not getting into a debate about the merits of smoking.

A non-smoker just breathes (except for coughing and sneezing). 

A smoker blows out the cigarette smoke in a vigorous manner...into the air....with the gusto of a person talking very loud.

 

Agree. I did it for 35 years and each exhale was glorious and vigorous just as you said. I honestly think casinos on cruise ships and on land should ban smoking due to Covid.

 

 

 

 

 

[chipmaster]

On 5/27/2020 at 2:03 PM, fastpitchdad said:

Indian Casino's here in Washington are banning smoking as they reopen. Hopefully NCL will follow suit. 

 

Smoking allowed indoors, wow, cancer and steal your money at the same time, talk about sneaky. 

[chipmaster]

On 6/4/2020 at 3:24 PM, Lou33 said:

 

Yes, I do think that it's fair to generalize that people who refuse to wear masks in a casino and/or smoke cigarettes are less concerned about their health and the health of others.  If I were in a casino, and somebody came up next to me without a mask, I would be concerned.  That never happens in stores were masks are required.

 

If I owned a casino and I asked patrons: "Hey, the world needs your help during this pandemic.  We ask that you wear a mask to protect others and yourself.  And by the way, you can't smoke while you're wearing a mask."  I think most people would be happy to comply.  But if they said.  "I don't care, I aint wearin' no mask, and I wanna smoke my cigarettes."  Those are the people who I would not want in my casino.  

 

Freedom is the freedom to do what I please

 

Freedom is the right for all people to have something?  Health, good opportunity, fairness, well you know that kind of freedom requires people to make some sacrifice of their personal freedom.  Most that believe freedom is freedom to do as I please don't subscribe to any self sacrifice for their fellow human to have opportunity.

[chipmaster]

On 6/4/2020 at 9:02 AM, larry_s_taco said:

Darwin was an amazing fellow.

 

Sadly we can't let herd Drawinism to work it course and fix all the other issues with the human pack.

[coffeebean]

On 5/29/2020 at 1:15 PM, Casino Comp Chick said:

 

I think I made that pretty clear. 

You said you would gamble where ever smoking was allowed. So, I would guess you would quit gambling if all casinos in the entire world were non smoking. Right?

[coffeebean]

On 6/4/2020 at 10:09 AM, spiritkat090909 said:

It's beginning to look to me like they are just making it up as they go along.  Whatever suits the pied piper tune of the day...and change it the next. I'm beginning to feel like a marionette!

This is not about the subject matter but...........your avatar is extremely cute but very annoying.