Rare hcat Posted January 8, 2021 #126 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, hcat said: Friends in Ft Myers Fl ( here 50 % of year, homeowners and taxpayers) lucked out and got their 1st dose and have appt for second dose. If they were in NY they would never have a chance. Very diff priorities up there! Newspapers today reported Srs sleeping in their cars overnight in Citrus Co Fl, so they could be in line for a 9 am first come first served drive through clinic. Others arrived at 8:30 am and were sent away including 2 who were on a cruise ship with Covid and reported on their ordeal We click onto various sites each day but no luck yet. We are now pre registered at a local hospital..and hopeful that it will work out. Still trying to register elsewhere as another potential. We will keep trying..sooner the better as Covid spreads We have owned a home here in Fl for 30 plus yrs and pay taxes so we do not feel that we are " foreigners" ! One can have dual residences....many folks do nowadays..esp with some states in chaos! The more who get vaccinated the better we all are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted January 9, 2021 #127 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I Re-read this thread.. not much in the way of updates about crew vaccines which is the topic. I did see lots of misinformation , misunderstanding & ignorance about " snowbirds". We are from the U.S. as are most of the "snow birds" in our mostly full time residential Community. We have enjoyed having a vacation home since the 1980,'s this is our third. It is true that many US citizens & Canadians have not returned this yr..travel, health ins issues..this hurts the already fragile economy in many places. They are missed..altho traffic is better! We visit our vacation home regularly..not just in the winter. When I still had work..before Covid , I went back and forth every few weeks. We left the state last March and could not get tix to return in June as we usually do. Our house sat vacant for many months but we fortunately have great neighbors and an awesome home watcher..so it was not too bad . We finally were able to return and are enjoying the nicer weather. We are in a lottery for the Covid Vaccine, and also check availability in sev counties each day....a stressful task. We plan to stay here til we can secure the vaccine b/c NY has diff priorities towards Srs and diabetics . We do not feel we are taking anything from anyone else if we do get the vaccine. Btw....we actually pay higher taxes being part timers.. Hope this clears up a few things! Anyone who gets the vaccine will be safer for everyone..sad that others begrudge folks who may get it ahead of them.. Looking forward to Happy Sailing in 2022! With vaccinated crew and cruisers. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lyndarra Posted January 9, 2021 #128 Share Posted January 9, 2021 When the cruise companies want to get started, I assume CDC and other relevant regulatory bodies would give the go ahead and, will most likely insist on crew being vaccinated. I would suggest it is then, the cruise companies responsibility. I envisage they would, or perhaps should, purchase required doses and arrange vaccination of crew at their home port. The cost of vaccinating would, ultimately, be reflected in cruise fares - user pays. There is also the complication of getting crew to point of embarkation with all that would entail - international borders, quarantine etc.. I'm glad I'm not on the payscale of having to work that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Airbalancer Posted January 9, 2021 #129 Share Posted January 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, hcat said: I Re-read this thread.. not much in the way of updates about crew vaccines which is the topic. I did see lots of misinformation , misunderstanding & ignorance about " snowbirds". We are from the U.S. as are most of the "snow birds" in our mostly full time residential Community. We have enjoyed having a vacation home since the 1980,'s this is our third. It is true that many US citizens & Canadians have not returned this yr..travel, health ins issues..this hurts the already fragile economy in many places. They are missed..altho traffic is better! We visit our vacation home regularly..not just in the winter. When I still had work..before Covid , I went back and forth every few weeks. We left the state last March and could not get tix to return in June as we usually do. Our house sat vacant for many months but we fortunately have great neighbors and an awesome home watcher..so it was not too bad . We finally were able to return and are enjoying the nicer weather. We are in a lottery for the Covid Vaccine, and also check availability in sev counties each day....a stressful task. We plan to stay here til we can secure the vaccine b/c NY has diff priorities towards Srs and diabetics . We do not feel we are taking anything from anyone else if we do get the vaccine. Btw....we actually pay higher taxes being part timers.. Hope this clears up a few things! Anyone who gets the vaccine will be safer for everyone..sad that others begrudge folks who may get it ahead of them.. Looking forward to Happy Sailing in 2022! With vaccinated crew and cruisers. I believe there is difference between a Canadian snowbird and one from the States I don’t think it is fair that a Canadian flying down to Florida to get a shot when our government is tell people not to travel out of the country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagoffee Posted January 9, 2021 #130 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Airbalancer said: I believe there is difference between a Canadian snowbird and one from the States I don’t think it is fair that a Canadian flying down to Florida to get a shot when our government is tell people not to travel out of the country Since it is a two shot process, it does not seem likely that someone would fly to Florida and stay for a month, just to wait and hope for a vaccine. Or it would likely be a very small number of people if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeRick Posted January 9, 2021 #131 Share Posted January 9, 2021 13 hours ago, Airbalancer said: I believe there is difference between a Canadian snowbird and one from the States I don’t think it is fair that a Canadian flying down to Florida to get a shot when our government is tell people not to travel out of the country https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canadian-snowbirds-chartering-private-jets-to-fly-south-for-faster-covid-19-vaccine-access-1.5257752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICCruisers Posted January 9, 2021 #132 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Getting back on the crew vaccination topic. From what I have read, a person that is vaccinated may still be able to have the virus and pass it along even though they will not get sick. If true, the only thing vaccinating the whole crew will accomplish is keeping them well. Not that keeping them well is a bad thing. It simply may not stop the spread of the virus onboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare markeb Posted January 9, 2021 #133 Share Posted January 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, RICCruisers said: Getting back on the crew vaccination topic. From what I have read, a person that is vaccinated may still be able to have the virus and pass it along even though they will not get sick. If true, the only thing vaccinating the whole crew will accomplish is keeping them well. Not that keeping them well is a bad thing. It simply may not stop the spread of the virus onboard. This keeps coming up. There is no data to prove that the vaccine(s) stops transmission. There is also no data that transmission continues. We just don't know. But that keeps getting more or less interpreted as "they can still transmit". It's going to take time to know the answer to that question, and if it has to be implied from epidemiology, the more people vaccinated, the sooner we'll know. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Airbalancer Posted January 9, 2021 #134 Share Posted January 9, 2021 59 minutes ago, TeeRick said: https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canadian-snowbirds-chartering-private-jets-to-fly-south-for-faster-covid-19-vaccine-access-1.5257752 Post that on Thursday 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeRick Posted January 9, 2021 #135 Share Posted January 9, 2021 45 minutes ago, Airbalancer said: Post that on Thursday 😉 Hey 29 people were vaccinated in Nunavut Territory already. Maybe people from the US can fly there - sort of reverse snowbirds! 😀 https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker-how-many-people-in-canada-have-received-shots-1.5247509 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted January 12, 2021 #136 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Some will do anything to get the shots..some folks believe it is life or death for them. Being high risk I get it, but there's only so much one can do. We did get finally an appt for tom at a hosp in our former area in Fl...wanted it there b/c of possible side effects. Hope it works out! Newsfeed reports that in Mantee County ( fla west coast) they have registered over 85,000 online and w/phone banks. 67% are local residents, 29% adjacent or nearby counties & 8% other. Avg age= 73. Goal is to give 1000 to 2000 a day, once supplies come in Gov says Fla not doing tourists but snowbirds with seasonal residence are okay. Many groups trying to be included for next rounds..glad I am not the gov I think ALL crew and staff will be required to have vaccine. Tests alone are not going to be enuff.....once vaccine is widely available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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