Biker19 Posted July 21, 2021 #151 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 2:53 PM, Big_G said: the expiration of the Secretary of Health and Human Services’ declaration that COVID-19 constitutes a public health emergency Not yet...... The Public Health Emergency Status in the United States has been extended again for the sixth time. A declaration that the Public Health Emergency is over would have meant that the conditions in which cruise ships are operating under the Conditional Sail Order would effectively be over. It is not to be as Secretary of Health, and Human Services Xavier Becerra extended the health emergency on July 19. A declaration of a public health emergency ensures government organizations have far-reaching power to ensure the health and safety of the general public. Previously the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the CDC, declared the No Sail order for cruise ships from and inside the US under this status and the current Conditional Sail Order. Conditional Sailing Order Stands Firm The extension of the Public Health Emergency confirms once again that the Conditional Sail Order, which operates under the Public Health Emergency Status, is here to stay. Each extension of the emergency status is for an additional 90 days, meaning the current extension brings us to the end of October. The Conditional Sail Order can be rescinded in three ways, either through the end of the Public Health Emergency, the CDC Director rescinds or modifies the order based on specific public health or other considerations; or November 1, 2021, when the original order is set to expire. However, even at this point, the CDC director could choose to extend the order again if the agency feels there are still significant risks to cruising. U.S. Public Health Emergency Extended, How Does This Impact Cruises? (cruisehive.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted July 21, 2021 #152 Share Posted July 21, 2021 11 hours ago, Biker19 said: Not yet...... The Public Health Emergency Status in the United States has been extended again for the sixth time. A declaration that the Public Health Emergency is over would have meant that the conditions in which cruise ships are operating under the Conditional Sail Order would effectively be over. It is not to be as Secretary of Health, and Human Services Xavier Becerra extended the health emergency on July 19. A declaration of a public health emergency ensures government organizations have far-reaching power to ensure the health and safety of the general public. Previously the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the CDC, declared the No Sail order for cruise ships from and inside the US under this status and the current Conditional Sail Order. Conditional Sailing Order Stands Firm The extension of the Public Health Emergency confirms once again that the Conditional Sail Order, which operates under the Public Health Emergency Status, is here to stay. Each extension of the emergency status is for an additional 90 days, meaning the current extension brings us to the end of October. The Conditional Sail Order can be rescinded in three ways, either through the end of the Public Health Emergency, the CDC Director rescinds or modifies the order based on specific public health or other considerations; or November 1, 2021, when the original order is set to expire. However, even at this point, the CDC director could choose to extend the order again if the agency feels there are still significant risks to cruising. U.S. Public Health Emergency Extended, How Does This Impact Cruises? (cruisehive.com) What am I missing? Isn't it the same expiration date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 21, 2021 #153 Share Posted July 21, 2021 The PHE will continue long into 2022, if not 2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted July 21, 2021 #154 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Big_G said: What am I missing? Isn't it the same expiration date? The CSO, yes, but without the extension the HHS secretary could have ended it by declaring the health emergency over. Edited July 21, 2021 by Biker19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted July 21, 2021 #155 Share Posted July 21, 2021 40 minutes ago, Biker19 said: The CSO, yes, but without the extension the HHS secretary could have ended it by declaring the health emergency over. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4774Papa Posted July 21, 2021 #156 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, smokeybandit said: The PHE will continue long into 2022, if not 2023. Why not 2030! There has to be an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted July 21, 2021 #157 Share Posted July 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, 4774Papa said: Why not 2030! There has to be an end. @ace2542? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kearney Posted July 21, 2021 #158 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Is this just an old story resurrected? By the way there is an interesting story in the WP about testing vaccinated people and overstating impact of Delta variant. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/07/21/covid-testing-vaccinated/ Something I have wondered about is if vaccinated...but no symptoms and you test positive do you really have it.. or are they just picking up insignificant quantities of virus? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBayAreaCa Posted July 21, 2021 #159 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, coffeebean said: Unless you are wearing an N95 or equivalent mask, your mask protects others around you. That is what source control is all about. Surgical and cloth masks do very little to protect the wearer. And that’s what I’ve been wearing since April 2020. No cloth or paper masks for me. No bandanas either. Edited July 21, 2021 by MikeBayAreaCa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted July 21, 2021 #160 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 hours ago, kearney said: Is this just an old story resurrected? @Biker19 who likes to resurrect old threats VS start new ones. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebean Posted July 22, 2021 #161 Share Posted July 22, 2021 16 hours ago, not-enough-cruising said: If you are vaccinated; that’s perfectly fine!! Good answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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