Is labadee open?

[petuniaflower]

I had heard that Labadee was closed for some time, we are looking at a date in January and both Coco Cay and Labadee are listed, are they open now?

[soremekun]

Not open to us cruise passengers.  Who knows who is there at the moment.

[petuniaflower]

Interesting, thanks..wonder at what point they will take it off the itinerary, as that was one reason we were picking that date/ship?

[BND]

13 minutes ago, petuniaflower said:

Interesting, thanks..wonder at what point they will take it off the itinerary, as that was one reason we were picking that date/ship?

They removed it from our Nov 28 cruise a couple of months ago.  Don't expect Labadee for quite awhile if ever.  There have been reports of locals basically moving in and trashing it so not sure if it's even in any shape for cruisers.  But, the political situation hasn't changed there and won't likely for a long time.  A lot of people believe it will never be used again.

[petuniaflower]

4 minutes ago, BND said:

They removed it from our Nov 28 cruise a couple of months ago.  Don't expect Labadee for quite awhile if ever.  There have been reports of locals basically moving in and trashing it so not sure if it's even in any shape for cruisers.  But, the political situation hasn't changed there and won't likely for a long time.  A lot of people believe it will never be used again.

Did they replace it with anything?

[TheMastodon]

1 minute ago, BND said:

They removed it from our Nov 28 cruise a couple of months ago.  Don't expect Labadee for quite awhile if ever.  There have been reports of locals basically moving in and trashing it so not sure if it's even in any shape for cruisers.  But, the political situation hasn't changed there and won't likely for a long time.  A lot of people believe it will never be used again.

 

Someone please tell the locals that the very private cabana up on the big rock at the suite beach needs to be thoroughly sanitized and cleaned prior to moving into it....

[BND]

19 minutes ago, petuniaflower said:

Did they replace it with anything?

They replaced Labadee and Falmouth with Cozumel and Costa Maya.

[petuniaflower]

12 minutes ago, BND said:

They replaced Labadee and Falmouth with Cozumel and Costa Maya.

Can anyone tell me if there is still a Maragritaville at Falmouth port, and if its similar to Grand Turk location where you just walk to it right off the ship and has a big pool area you can just stay at for the day?  Thanks!

[smokeybandit]

57 minutes ago, BND said:

There have been reports of locals basically moving in and trashing it so not sure if it's even in any shape for cruisers. 

I can't imagine RC would let this happen. They have too many millions invested there to let it go to waste.

[sfaaa]

When even Haitian police and government are powerless against the local gangs, it's time to close up shop and move on.

[nickiford]

26 minutes ago, petuniaflower said:

Can anyone tell me if there is still a Maragritaville at Falmouth port, and if its similar to Grand Turk location where you just walk to it right off the ship and has a big pool area you can just stay at for the day?  Thanks!

They have one, it's within walking distance, but the last time we were there it was no one near as nice as the Grand Turk one was.   it's smaller, and it was dirty, hopefully things have improved.  It's worth checking out but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

[nickiford]

My cruise in February is still showing Haiti as our last stop, I'm waiting to see what it will be subbed out with.  We have Nassau, St Thomas, Puerto Rico and then Haiti.

 

[BND]

17 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

I can't imagine RC would let this happen. They have too many millions invested there to let it go to waste.

RCI wasn't there during the unrest and earthquake so the area was left basically unprotected for well over 18 months.  I don't think they had any say.  Haiti owns that land and RCI had a lease, but who knows the status of that.

[time4u2go]

27 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

I can't imagine RC would let this happen. They have too many millions invested there to let it go to waste.

I doubt RC has much choice in the matter.

[smokeybandit]

16 minutes ago, BND said:

RCI wasn't there during the unrest and earthquake so the area was left basically unprotected for well over 18 months.  I don't think they had any say.  Haiti owns that land and RCI had a lease, but who knows the status of that.

 

The lease is until 2050 and Haiti gets paid $12 per passenger (annual visitors average out to about 2000 people per day) and employs upwards of 500 Haitians either directly or indirectly (vendors).  

Plus if they gave up on Labadee, they'd need to find somewhere else because people would get sick of CocoCay and Cozumel really fast.

Edited November 16, 2021 by smokeybandit

[Islandtime17]

19 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

 

The lease is until 2050 and Haiti gets paid $12 per passenger (annual visitors average out to about 2000 people per day) and employs upwards of 500 Haitians either directly or indirectly (vendors).  

Plus if they gave up on Labadee, they'd need to find somewhere else because people would get sick of CocoCay and Cozumel really fast.

I would much rather go to coco cay, labadee had problems even before COVID, as for Cozumel , haven’t been in awhile. Just will be happy to be cruising. Stay safe , enjoy your day.

[smokeybandit]

7 minutes ago, Islandtime17 said:

I would much rather go to coco cay, labadee had problems even before COVID, as for Cozumel , haven’t been in awhile. Just will be happy to be cruising. Stay safe , enjoy your day.

 

RC won't be able to milk "Just happy to be cruising" forever

[Islandtime17]

2 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

 

RC won't be able to milk "Just happy to be cruising" forever

Sure they will, we’re paying to do it no matter where they end up going.  

[RN4Nsy]

2 hours ago, petuniaflower said:

Did they replace it 

For my upcoming Cruise an extra day at sea and a day in St Maarten replaced Labadee and Puerto Rico.

[BND]

1 hour ago, smokeybandit said:

 

RC won't be able to milk "Just happy to be cruising" forever

It's one port.  There are plenty of others.  But, we're happy to be on a ship.  We happen to love sea days and a lot of others do too, but they are subbing other ports for Labadee when they can.

[BND]

1 hour ago, smokeybandit said:

 

The lease is until 2050 and Haiti gets paid $12 per passenger (annual visitors average out to about 2000 people per day) and employs upwards of 500 Haitians either directly or indirectly (vendors).  

Plus if they gave up on Labadee, they'd need to find somewhere else because people would get sick of CocoCay and Cozumel really fast.

And, what is the status of the Haitian government that signed that lease?

[F27TW]

3 hours ago, BND said:

They removed it from our Nov 28 cruise a couple of months ago.  Don't expect Labadee for quite awhile if ever.  There have been reports of locals basically moving in and trashing it so not sure if it's even in any shape for cruisers.  But, the political situation hasn't changed there and won't likely for a long time.  A lot of people believe it will never be used again.

 

Very classy.   It was a matter of time anyway there ... .earthquake or not.   

 

Edited November 16, 2021 by F27TW

[F27TW]

19 minutes ago, BND said:

And, what is the status of the Haitian government that signed that lease?

 

... what "government"?

[BND]

22 minutes ago, F27TW said:

 

... what "government"?

Exactly.

[loman]

I feel sorry for the flies . They loved sharing the food with you at the beach BBQ .