Rare Guardsy Posted March 7, 2022 #1 Share Posted March 7, 2022 With oil going over $100 per barrel, I am glad to see the cruise lines not adding on their fuel surcharges of a few years ago. I think those went into effect when oil went over $70 per barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GulfShoresCruiser Posted March 7, 2022 #2 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) I'm sailing Saturday and looked thru the mouse print on my contract and find nothing in reference to a fuel surcharge. I always thought that was there from years past but could not find it. Has anyone else seen it? (I know we are trying to find out who we can levy a fuel surcharge on for our gas to get us to the pier!) Let's Go ! Edited March 7, 2022 by GulfShoresCruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JimmyVWine Posted March 7, 2022 #3 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Do they ever add a surcharge after your price is locked in through a booking? If you are past final payment, can they still charge you more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsqrl Posted March 7, 2022 #4 Share Posted March 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, JimmyVWine said: Do they ever add a surcharge after your price is locked in through a booking? If you are past final payment, can they still charge you more? Didn't they do that when they last implemented the fuel surcharge? I have a vague memory of it being applied to all booked passengers, not just new bookings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsSoCalCruiser Posted March 7, 2022 #5 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Shhh, don’t let them hear you. I have been wondering too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JimmyVWine Posted March 7, 2022 #6 Share Posted March 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, rdsqrl said: Didn't they do that when they last implemented the fuel surcharge? I have a vague memory of it being applied to all booked passengers, not just new bookings. Don’t know. Personally, I have never been assessed a post hoc fuel surcharge but I am not bold enough to think my experiences represent all experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwimum Posted March 7, 2022 #7 Share Posted March 7, 2022 When did Princess invoke the fuel surcharge mentioned in the Contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare patrickmoran Posted March 7, 2022 #8 Share Posted March 7, 2022 The cruiselines tried adding fuel surcharges in 2007/2008. Turned out to be a PR disaster! All got sued by NY and Cal AGs and rescinded everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie3fan Posted March 7, 2022 #9 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Hush! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcairns Posted March 7, 2022 #10 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Like airlines the cruise lines by their fuel on the futures market meaning the fix the fuel price well in advance. I doubt there will be fuel surcharges now but expect fare increases in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissP22 Posted March 7, 2022 #11 Share Posted March 7, 2022 It wouldn't shock me if they did. Any company that has been hit as hard as they have is looking to save even the smallest amount in any way they can. Just look at all the recent cutbacks they've introduced since returning to sailing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 7, 2022 #12 Share Posted March 7, 2022 The class action suit in the 2007 time frame was that the charge was added to cruises after final payment. Those charges were returned. For a time, they could only impose the surcharge on new bookings, after the surcharge was implemented. Now, ticket contract language allows them to add the charge even after final payment. While cruise lines do use fuel futures to steady the swing of bunker prices, and there are some market factors that are somewhat unique the last couple of years, and looking ahead, unless crude rises over $140/barrel, I don't see a surcharge coming. Fuel surcharges have been a fact of life in shipping for the last decade, at least. It affects every consumer item that is shipped by sea (and 80+% of the world's economy is shipped by sea), but the consumer is never aware that the price increase they see at the register is caused by fuel surcharges. Trucking and trains have used fuel surcharges as well, and I know that companies like Amazon have been hit with them by UPS, FEDEX, etc. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargassoPirate Posted March 7, 2022 #13 Share Posted March 7, 2022 If oil prices drop below the $70 mark, do they give us a fuel refund? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcairns Posted March 7, 2022 #14 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, chengkp75 said: The class action suit in the 2007 time frame was that the charge was added to cruises after final payment. Those charges were returned. For a time, they could only impose the surcharge on new bookings, after the surcharge was implemented. Now, ticket contract language allows them to add the charge even after final payment. While cruise lines do use fuel futures to steady the swing of bunker prices, and there are some market factors that are somewhat unique the last couple of years, and looking ahead, unless crude rises over $140/barrel, I don't see a surcharge coming. Fuel surcharges have been a fact of life in shipping for the last decade, at least. It affects every consumer item that is shipped by sea (and 80+% of the world's economy is shipped by sea), but the consumer is never aware that the price increase they see at the register is caused by fuel surcharges. Trucking and trains have used fuel surcharges as well, and I know that companies like Amazon have been hit with them by UPS, FEDEX, etc. Thanks. Can you show me the ticket contract language that allows for this. Like other CC postersI have not found this language. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted March 7, 2022 #15 Share Posted March 7, 2022 MY fuel 'surcharge' was 40 cents a gallon more yesterday than 2 weeks ago - up to $ 4.00 / gallon now. Prices up - not just fuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GulfShoresCruiser Posted March 7, 2022 #16 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, chengkp75 said: Now, ticket contract language allows them to add the charge even after final payment. I cannot find this in my Princess cruise contract......and we are sailing Saturday....Can anyone identify the mouse print that permits this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare alanstarr Posted March 7, 2022 #17 Share Posted March 7, 2022 This was in the quote from my OTA, but I could not find it anywhere on the Princess website:At this time we can confirm the fare as listed, the total includes port taxes and Gov't fees. All cruise lines reserve the right to add a fuel supplement of up to $12 per guest per day on all guests if the price of West Texas Intermediate fuel exceeds $65 per barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GulfShoresCruiser Posted March 7, 2022 #18 Share Posted March 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, alanstarr said: This was in the quote from my OTA, but I could not find it anywhere on the Princess website:At this time we can confirm the fare as listed, the total includes port taxes and Gov't fees. All cruise lines reserve the right to add a fuel supplement of up to $12 per guest per day on all guests if the price of West Texas Intermediate fuel exceeds $65 per barrel. That's not in my Princess contract nor is it in the fine print from my TA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GulfShoresCruiser Posted March 7, 2022 #19 Share Posted March 7, 2022 There is this fine print in my TA agreement regarding air but nothing about cruise line fuel surcharges: Airlines may add a fuel surcharge or other fee after an air ticket has been booked but prior to final payment. Once final payment for an air ticket has been made, only government-imposed taxes or fees may be added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Coral Posted March 7, 2022 #20 Share Posted March 7, 2022 12 hours ago, rdsqrl said: Didn't they do that when they last implemented the fuel surcharge? I have a vague memory of it being applied to all booked passengers, not just new bookings. Yes they did! I had a B2B2B booked and got hit with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GulfShoresCruiser Posted March 7, 2022 #21 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Coral said: Yes they did! I had a B2B2B booked and got hit with it. Do you recall if it was in the fine print at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Coral Posted March 7, 2022 #22 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, GulfShoresCruiser said: Do you recall if it was in the fine print at the time? No. That was the first time I remember it and remember the fine print being added. It was done after final payment. I remember going to the airport once and having to pay $10 to fly for the surcharge one time also. My surcharge was not refunded by a class action lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GulfShoresCruiser Posted March 7, 2022 #23 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Interesting then why the fuel surcharge is not in the fine print today......I'm sure the lawyers wanted it in but for some reason, it's not and here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moondogy Posted March 9, 2022 #24 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Oh great....now we're all jinxed and they gonna put one on us 😒 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bgwest Posted March 9, 2022 #25 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Gee, I miss the $1.58/gallon I was paying for unleaded gasoline in the fall of 2020! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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