Rare LHT28 Posted August 12, 2022 #151 Share Posted August 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, WESTEAST said: p.s. SailSafe is no longer on the home page oceaniacruises.com / you can find on Plan Your Cruise. It shows on the top of the page on my computer in the yellow banner click on Health & Safety link then click on the link post Sept 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuka Posted August 13, 2022 #152 Share Posted August 13, 2022 11 hours ago, LHT28 said: Do you know what other insurance companies in Canada sell Trip cancellation/interuption ins that cover Covid?? Medjet seem to cover medical only at least from what I found Its layered coverage that one might consider- a few policies = more $ for insurance companies in Canada. Manulife sells regular trip/cancellation which would cover in event one or a companion gets Covid before travelling or non-Covid trip interruption/cancellation. There is no coverage after trip starts for Covid related claims. They also sell a Covid policy which covers trip interruption due to Covid - quarantine and medical care.. I have medical coverage through work so I am covered for medical expenses like drugs, doctors and hospitalization, but not for quarantine or getting home after feeling better. Best to read policies and call insurer with questions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escrick Posted August 13, 2022 #153 Share Posted August 13, 2022 17 hours ago, susiesan said: If that's the case then maybe you shouldn't be cruising on Oceania. The majority of O pax fall into the "vulnerable" category based on age and health demographics as evidenced by half the regular O posters/cruisers here on CC. If you get it and you are like me, had no idea I had covid, you would be inadvertently spreading it to all of your fellow vulnerable passengers. Interesting comment. People who are young may be “vulnerable” in that they have an underlying health condition that makes them susceptible to viruses. I do hope you do not resent the elderly because, if we are fortunate, we might be old ourselves one day.😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susiesan Posted August 13, 2022 #154 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Hey, I am technically one of the elderly, but not in my mind.😏 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escrick Posted August 13, 2022 #155 Share Posted August 13, 2022 3 hours ago, susiesan said: Hey, I am technically one of the elderly, but not in my mind.😏 Hurrah! Ageing is an adventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlerRob Posted August 14, 2022 #156 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 8/12/2022 at 1:24 PM, LHT28 said: Do you know what other insurance companies in Canada sell Trip cancellation/interuption ins that cover Covid?? Medjet seem to cover medical only at least from what I found It has been about six weeks since I did my last scan. At that time, I only found Manulife. CAA, TD and all of my credit card vendors had all run for the hills with respect to cancellation/interruption policies. Even the Manulife Covid interruption policy was clear that it did not cover cancellation - you needed the "standard" cancellation policy as well for that coverage (and it required Covid illness - no coverage for wanting to cancel due to concerns of being infected - CFAR has never been a thing in Canada as far as I can tell). There may have been some changes over the past weeks, especially with a number of the lines relaxing protocols. 🍺🥌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted August 14, 2022 #157 Share Posted August 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, CurlerRob said: It has been about six weeks since I did my last scan. At that time, I only found Manulife. CAA, TD and all of my credit card vendors had all run for the hills with respect to cancellation/interruption policies. Even the Manulife Covid interruption policy was clear that it did not cover cancellation - you needed the "standard" cancellation policy as well for that coverage (and it required Covid illness - no coverage for wanting to cancel due to concerns of being infected - CFAR has never been a thing in Canada as far as I can tell). There may have been some changes over the past weeks, especially with a number of the lines relaxing protocols. 🍺🥌 Thanks I had heard that Manulife covered covid but we usually get trip Cancel/interruption as well We have out of country medical through DH retirement benefits must check if they now cover covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy99 Posted August 15, 2022 #158 Share Posted August 15, 2022 I am utterly disappointed that Oceania is allowing unvaccinated persons to travel and not requiring that persons show proof of being vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted August 15, 2022 #159 Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Guppy99 said: I am utterly disappointed that Oceania is allowing unvaccinated persons to travel and not requiring that persons show proof of being vaccinated. Do pax still have to fill out the preboarding forms online ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEFIowa Posted August 15, 2022 Author #160 Share Posted August 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Guppy99 said: I am utterly disappointed that Oceania is allowing unvaccinated persons to travel and not requiring that persons show proof of being vaccinated. All passengers essentially have to inform O whether they are vaccinated or not. IF you are vaccinated, you'd provide the documentation for your vaccination and you would then not have to test before boarding. IF, however, you are not vaccinated or can't prove it, then you have to pre-test before boarding and provide the negative test result to board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy99 Posted August 15, 2022 #161 Share Posted August 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, MEFIowa said: All passengers essentially have to inform O whether they are vaccinated or not. IF you are vaccinated, you'd provide the documentation for your vaccination and you would then not have to test before boarding. IF, however, you are not vaccinated or can't prove it, then you have to pre-test before boarding and provide the negative test result to board. Not as of Sep. 3 Vaccines, Masks and Testing: What Cruise Lines Require Now (2022) (cruisecritic.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy99 Posted August 15, 2022 #162 Share Posted August 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, LHT28 said: Do pax still have to fill out the preboarding forms online ? I don't know. Just what the article says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted August 15, 2022 #163 Share Posted August 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, Guppy99 said: Not as of Sep. 3 Vaccines, Masks and Testing: What Cruise Lines Require Now (2022) (cruisecritic.com) How will they know who is vaccinated or not if they do not have to provide some proof at some point in the process The article is just a snapshot I would go by what Oceania has on their website or check in forms If in doubt call Oceania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEFIowa Posted August 15, 2022 Author #164 Share Posted August 15, 2022 30 minutes ago, Guppy99 said: Not as of Sep. 3 Vaccines, Masks and Testing: What Cruise Lines Require Now (2022) (cruisecritic.com) I'm discussing the newly issue protocols for Oceania/NCL: FOR VOYAGES DEPARTING ON OR AFTER SEPTEMBER 3, 2022 We've revised our SailSafe Health and Safety protocols to be simpler, easier, and offer all travelers an open door to explore the world. Effective September 3, 2022, for all sailings embarking from that date forward, Vaccinated travelers will no longer need to test to embark a sailing and Unvaccinated travelers may embark by providing proof of a negative Antigen or PCR test not more than 72 hours old. Ease of access to travel is also provided for guests of all ages as children will also be welcomed without restriction of age or vaccination status. Certain destinations have specific requirements which will vary from our new base-level protocols. SailSAFE™ - Oceania Cruises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy99 Posted August 15, 2022 #165 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, LHT28 said: How will they know who is vaccinated or not if they do not have to provide some proof at some point in the process The article is just a snapshot I would go by what Oceania has on their website or check in forms If in doubt call Oceania They won't. That's why I am so disappointed that they care so little for our safety. This is a cruise critic article. It goes into affect Sep 3. The quote above is silent regarding proof of vaccination. Edited August 15, 2022 by Guppy99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEFIowa Posted August 15, 2022 Author #166 Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Guppy99 said: They won't. That's why I am so disappointed that they care so little for our safety. This is a cruise critic article. It goes into affect Sep 3. I wouldn't expect Oceania's website to reflect it yet. A couple other cruise lines are doing the same. STOP THE MISINFORMATION! For those who do NOT want to pre-test, they must prove their vaccination status. From Oceania: Fully Vaccinated travelers aged 12 and older will not need to test to embark. Fully Vaccinated travelers must meet the generally-accepted definition of “fully vaccinated” based on the destination they are embarking and/or traveling to and must provide proof of vaccination. BUT if you are unvaccinated or don't have the proof: Un-vaccinated travelers will need to present a negative, medically administered covid-19 test. Antigen and PCR test results may not be more than 72 hours old at the time of boarding. sails-safe-program.pdf (oceaniacruises.com) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy99 Posted August 15, 2022 #167 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, MEFIowa said: STOP THE MISINFORMATION! For those who do NOT want to pre-test, they must prove their vaccination status. From Oceania: Fully Vaccinated travelers aged 12 and older will not need to test to embark. Fully Vaccinated travelers must meet the generally-accepted definition of “fully vaccinated” based on the destination they are embarking and/or traveling to and must provide proof of vaccination. BUT if you are unvaccinated or don't have the proof: Un-vaccinated travelers will need to present a negative, medically administered covid-19 test. Antigen and PCR test results may not be more than 72 hours old at the time of boarding. sails-safe-program.pdf (oceaniacruises.com) REad the Cruise Critic article. It clearly says that for Oceania: "Who Needs to Be Vaccinated: As of September 3, 2022, passengers departing from most ports do not need to show proof of vaccination. Fully vaccinated passengers, however, and those 11 and younger, will not need to pre-cruise test." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1985rz1 Posted August 15, 2022 #168 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Guppy99 said: REad the Cruise Critic article. It clearly says that for Oceania: "Who Needs to Be Vaccinated: As of September 3, 2022, passengers departing from most ports do not need to show proof of vaccination. Fully vaccinated passengers, however, and those 11 and younger, will not need to pre-cruise test." Cruisecritic articles are not totally reliable, so go with the source (Oceania), not secondhand, information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy99 Posted August 15, 2022 #169 Share Posted August 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, 1985rz1 said: Cruisecritic articles are not totally reliable, so go with the source (Oceania), not secondhand, information. Hmmm interesting. Cruise line websites are also not always reflective of what actually happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted August 15, 2022 #170 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Make it stop, .........please............. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepherd really Posted August 15, 2022 #171 Share Posted August 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Guppy99 said: Hmmm interesting. Cruise line websites are also not always reflective of what actually happens. When your income depends on keeping your advertisers happy, take the messenger with a grain of salt. 42 minutes ago, 1985rz1 said: Cruisecritic articles are not totally reliable, so go with the source (Oceania), not secondhand, information. When your income depends on keeping your shareholders happy, take the source with a grain of salt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunlover12 Posted August 15, 2022 #172 Share Posted August 15, 2022 There is a lot of discussion about embarkation but what is not being addressed is what will be done in ports that require a negative test for the unvaccinated. There are some countries that Oceania sails to that require a negative test for the unvaccinated. On the SailSafe webpage it states: "Sole and ultimate responsibility for compliance with health and entry requirements lies with the traveling guests." and "if an additional test is required at a port of call, we will provide advance notice to all guests." This is very vague. There is nothing that says there will be testing on the ship if the country requires it. Oceania should be addressing this, IMO. If I were unvaccinated and traveling to these countries I'd be asking a lot of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njhorseman Posted August 15, 2022 #173 Share Posted August 15, 2022 You have to love social media. 🙄 Where else could you take a poorly written paragraph from an unofficial source and repeatedly insist it's correct and that the official documentation is wrong. 🤢 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNielsen Posted August 15, 2022 #174 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) Add HAL and Seabourn to the ever growing list of cruise lines dropping the need for vaccinations. Of course, each has caveats attached to the change. https://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Travel/HAL-Seabourn-drop-vax-requirement edited to add start dates of September 6th and 7th respectively. Edited August 15, 2022 by LNielsen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chloemonkey Posted August 17, 2022 #175 Share Posted August 17, 2022 On 8/15/2022 at 7:39 AM, MEFIowa said: STOP THE MISINFORMATION! For those who do NOT want to pre-test, they must prove their vaccination status. From Oceania: Fully Vaccinated travelers aged 12 and older will not need to test to embark. Fully Vaccinated travelers must meet the generally-accepted definition of “fully vaccinated” based on the destination they are embarking and/or traveling to and must provide proof of vaccination. BUT if you are unvaccinated or don't have the proof: Un-vaccinated travelers will need to present a negative, medically administered covid-19 test. Antigen and PCR test results may not be more than 72 hours old at the time of boarding. sails-safe-program.pdf (oceaniacruises.com) For those of us that ARE fully vaccinated - do we still need a negative PCR(lab) test to be done within 72 hours of embarkation SHOULD we become positive at some point? I ask as I really need to do everything possible to assure reimbursement/quarantine assistance, in the case of catching Covid sometime during our 21 day journey.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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