Rare BlerkOne Posted November 25, 2022 #1 Share Posted November 25, 2022 https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/local/orleans/us-coast-guard-aiding-in-search-for-passenger-missing-from-carnival-valor-new-orleans/289-af499971-63e8-49d7-b492-6ea93492733c https://www.kplctv.com/2022/11/25/search-underway-passenger-reported-missing-carnival-valor/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaJ Posted November 25, 2022 #2 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Glad he was found alive! So I read the story and his sister said that they were at a bar and he went to the bathroom and never returned but his sister didn't report him missing for 11 hours. What the heck!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare puppycanducruise Posted November 25, 2022 #3 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Wow, glad he was found alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justafem Posted November 25, 2022 #4 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Lucky lucky guy. Not many people get that second chance going overboard. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MeganGC1983 Posted November 25, 2022 #5 Share Posted November 25, 2022 The fact that he survived after the fall and in the gulf for 12+ hours is incredible. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted November 25, 2022 #6 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Not really that incredible. Alcohol is lighter than water. 😁 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ledges1 Posted November 25, 2022 #7 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I am truly thankful the man survived. It will be interesting to hear his story surrounding the accident. I hope his story is shared with the public. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sndral Posted November 25, 2022 #8 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, MeganGC1983 said: The fact that he survived after the fall and in the gulf for 12+ hours is incredible. According to CNN he was transferred from another vessel to a coast guard helicopter - https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/man-rescued-carnival-cruise-gulf-of-mexico/index.html so it sounds like an unnamed ship initially found & rescued him, to me it’s unclear how long he spent in the gulf, but it’s still remarkable that he survived the fall & that a vessel happened to find him. Edited November 25, 2022 by sndral 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MeganGC1983 Posted November 25, 2022 #9 Share Posted November 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, sndral said: According to CNN he was transferred from another vessel to a coast guard helicopter - https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/man-rescued-carnival-cruise-gulf-of-mexico/index.html so it sounds like an unnamed ship initially found & rescued him, to me it’s unclear how long he spent in the gulf, but it’s still remarkable that he survived the fall & that a vessel happened to find him. I missed that part. Definitely still crazy and lucky. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serene56 Posted November 25, 2022 #10 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 hours ago, MichiganFisherman said: Shocking .......on Carnival ..... again. do you think this doesnt happen on other cruise lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted November 25, 2022 Author #11 Share Posted November 25, 2022 5 hours ago, MichiganFisherman said: Shocking .......on Carnival ..... again. Shocking? Well, this is the Carnival board. I could have posted about the passenger shoved overboard on NCL last month. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ledges1 Posted November 25, 2022 #12 Share Posted November 25, 2022 5 hours ago, MichiganFisherman said: Shocking .......on Carnival ..... again. I read this as "tongue in cheek or sarcastic" remark. I do not think the writer is shocked. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi_Cruiser Posted November 25, 2022 #13 Share Posted November 25, 2022 When I read of these accounts, the information that always seems to be missing is exactly how the passenger managed to "fall" off the ship. As a seasoned cruiser, I know from personal experience, it's virtually impossible to "fall" over the typical 4-foot railings that surround most of the open areas on cruise ships. So, there would have to be some kind of specific circumstances to make someone go over the railing. Some possible causes could be inebriation - which could lead to lack of judgment obviously - something more sinister like being pushed or assisted to go over by another passenger - or other possible situations which could get the passenger off the ship. Not to be excluded would be the possibility of jumping from one of the higher decks, in which case the railing wouldn't necessarily be a barrier. In all my years of cruising, I have never felt and danger about "falling" overboard, so I always wonder when I read these stories, just how exactly does a passenger end up off the ship and in the water? inquiring minds want to know. 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sndral Posted November 25, 2022 #14 Share Posted November 25, 2022 https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/man-rescued-carnival-cruise-gulf-of-mexico/index.html Updated article giving more details including the name of the vessel that spotted him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted November 25, 2022 #15 Share Posted November 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, SemperFi_Cruiser said: When I read of these accounts, the information that always seems to be missing is exactly how the passenger managed to "fall" off the ship. As a seasoned cruiser, I know from personal experience, it's virtually impossible to "fall" over the typical 4-foot railings that surround most of the open areas on cruise ships. So, there would have to be some kind of specific circumstances to make someone go over the railing. Some possible causes could be inebriation - which could lead to lack of judgment obviously - something more sinister like being pushed or assisted to go over by another passenger - or other possible situations which could get the passenger off the ship. Not to be excluded would be the possibility of jumping from one of the higher decks, in which case the railing wouldn't necessarily be a barrier. In all my years of cruising, I have never felt and danger about "falling" overboard, so I always wonder when I read these stories, just how exactly does a passenger end up off the ship and in the water? inquiring minds want to know. You listed all the possibilities. No other way, PERIOD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel2 Posted November 25, 2022 #16 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I cannot believe they found him alive. I remember reading the article yesterday and thinking what a tragedy… they’ll never find his body. I would love to hear the details of this story. I feel like it should be documented on that tv show “I survived” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted November 25, 2022 Author #17 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Obviously alcohol was involved. I wonder if they tested his blood? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 25, 2022 #18 Share Posted November 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: Obviously alcohol was involved. I wonder if they tested his blood? Why? No crime was committed. And, after many hours in the ocean, his BAC would be zero. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted November 25, 2022 Author #19 Share Posted November 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, chengkp75 said: Why? No crime was committed. And, after many hours in the ocean, his BAC would be zero. If other drugs were also involved. If someone doctored his drinks wouldn't that be a crime? Then there might be criminal assistance to (attempted) suicide. Could it have been a stunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 25, 2022 #20 Share Posted November 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: If other drugs were also involved. If someone doctored his drinks wouldn't that be a crime? Where would be the probable cause to test for drugs? Unless he claimed that someone drugged his drinks, there would be no cause. 10 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: Then there might be criminal assistance to (attempted) suicide. As far as I know, there is no federal law against assisted suicide, it is a state by state law. 11 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: Could it have been a stunt? And, if it was? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keels81 Posted November 25, 2022 #21 Share Posted November 25, 2022 It says he was found about 20 miles from SouthWest Pass ... not to be graphic or gross, but I'm honestly very surprised he wasn't attacked or eaten by anything around there. We fish there often and the creatures that habitat the area where the river meets the Gulf are pretty intense. Sharks, gators, eels, rays, all manor of things. Especially as the start to make their winter migration to that area between Southwest Pass and Grand Isle, up into Lafitte Preserve. Anyway, it's essentially where the ships enter and exit the Mississippi River on sailings: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted November 25, 2022 Author #22 Share Posted November 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, chengkp75 said: Where would be the probable cause to test for drugs? Unless he claimed that someone drugged his drinks, there would be no cause. As far as I know, there is no federal law against assisted suicide, it is a state by state law. And, if it was? My turn. Why didn't the MOB cameras pick up the man falling? The state is Louisiana and would be Louisiana laws. Why wasn't the man forthcoming with how he ended up in the water? Do you mean there are no consequences for someone who ends up in the water? He certainly should be kept for observation and a mental evaluation of some sort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 25, 2022 #23 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, BlerkOne said: Why didn't the MOB cameras pick up the man falling? I don't believe Carnival has automated MOB cameras, so unless someone was actually looking at the feed at the time, they wouldn't know. 2 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: The state is Louisiana and would be Louisiana laws. No, 20 miles off SW pass is outside of state waters (3 miles) and even federal waters (12 miles). 3 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: Why wasn't the man forthcoming with how he ended up in the water Why should he, unless someone did something to him? 3 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: Do you mean there are no consequences for someone who ends up in the water? Correct. 4 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: He certainly should be kept for observation and a mental evaluation of some sort. Prudent, for sure, but not a legal requirement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted November 25, 2022 #24 Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: My turn. Why didn't the MOB cameras pick up the man falling? unfortunately most ships do not have any MOB camera systems to detect this in real time. the cameras you see on the side of the ship is just there for security and is mostly used to see different spots around the ship. like the captain uses the camera to help position the ship in port Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted November 25, 2022 Author #25 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, chengkp75 said: No, 20 miles off SW pass is outside of state waters (3 miles) and even federal waters (12 miles). He obviously wasn't picked up where he went over. How many miles would the Mississippi have carried him ? At New Orleans, the river flows about 3 miles per hour. Just now, chengkp75 said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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