RocketMan275 Posted December 9, 2022 #151 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Amazing. DSC goes up by $2-$4 PPPD. At most a $56 increase for a seven day cruise and some here go hyperbolic. This increase is less than the cost of four drinks over the seven day period, less than the cost of one shore excursion, or about 1% the cost of a $5000 cruise. If you're that strapped for cash, perhaps you should be booking inside cabins, forgoing the free drinks, etc, etc. You probably should be investigating 'staycations' instead of cruises. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstuff1 Posted December 9, 2022 #152 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, fstuff1 said: 15 hours ago, fstuff1 said: I might lower it to $10/day. '"Reason: $20/day dsc too high. Thought $10/day is adaquate and was too lazy to modify Even though the default dsc kept raising. But $20/day spurred me into action. Thx Del Rio." 😄 I think everyone should write this when they adjust their dsc, especially 'thx Del Rio' 🙂 Edited December 9, 2022 by fstuff1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geopuzzle Posted December 9, 2022 #153 Share Posted December 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said: Amazing. DSC goes up by $2-$4 PPPD. At most a $56 increase for a seven day cruise and some here go hyperbolic. It is going up by $180 for my family of 5 on a 9 day cruise, for our single O5 cabin. Now $900 in gratuities. Yes, I think that is ridiculous. They shouldn't charge children the same amount as adults. Cleaning a cabin with 5 people is more work than cleaning a cabin with 2 people, but not 250% the amount of work. There is still only 1 bathroom to clean. For a family that prefers buffets to table service and only drinks tap water (for health reasons), and whose kids don't enjoy kids clubs, the cost doesn't make sense. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakman58 Posted December 9, 2022 #154 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Normally when I cruised with NCL I would pre-pay the DSC and then I would leave an additional amount in the cabin every day for the cabin steward. With this 25% increase in the DSC I will probably quit doing that. For that matter I wonder if I will be cruising with NCL in the future. I just completed a cruise with Carnival in September and was impressed with the food and the service. The entertainment not so much. I have a future cruise with Princess next month, and another cruise with Holland in June. NCL pricing has me moving away from their cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julig22 Posted December 9, 2022 #155 Share Posted December 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, geopuzzle said: It is going up by $180 for my family of 5 on a 9 day cruise, for our single O5 cabin. Now $900 in gratuities. Yes, I think that is ridiculous. They shouldn't charge children the same amount as adults. Cleaning a cabin with 5 people is more work than cleaning a cabin with 2 people, but not 250% the amount of work. There is still only 1 bathroom to clean. For a family that prefers buffets to table service and only drinks tap water (for health reasons), and whose kids don't enjoy kids clubs, the cost doesn't make sense. I partially agree, maybe reduce the amount for additional guests when over 2 in a cabin. To still include the laundry, dishwashing, buffet staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCruiseBug Posted December 9, 2022 #156 Share Posted December 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said: Amazing. DSC goes up by $2-$4 PPPD. At most a $56 increase for a seven day cruise and some here go hyperbolic. This increase is less than the cost of four drinks over the seven day period, less than the cost of one shore excursion, or about 1% the cost of a $5000 cruise. If you're that strapped for cash, perhaps you should be booking inside cabins, forgoing the free drinks, etc, etc. You probably should be investigating 'staycations' instead of cruises. Someone posts this every time this happens. So when can we actually add it all up? If you have a $40-50 increase every couple of months do you get to stack it? Great job at being the perfect NCL customer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianmike Posted December 9, 2022 #157 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 59 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said: Amazing. DSC goes up by $2-$4 PPPD. At most a $56 increase for a seven day cruise and some here go hyperbolic. This increase is less than the cost of four drinks over the seven day period, less than the cost of one shore excursion, or about 1% the cost of a $5000 cruise. If you're that strapped for cash, perhaps you should be booking inside cabins, forgoing the free drinks, etc, etc. You probably should be investigating 'staycations' instead of cruises. I'm conflicted. As a NCLH shareholder, I love your attitude. We don't need budget savvy cruisers. "A dollar here, a dollar there, who cares!" Keep the opaque fees coming such that the total cost of a cruise is ambiguous. But as a budget savvy cruiser who isn't married to one cruise line these fees really complicate the search for the most value. Edited December 9, 2022 by mianmike 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted December 9, 2022 #158 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, RocketMan275 said: At most a $56 increase for a seven day cruise and some here go hyperbolic. Except that $56 increase this year is on top of the $20 increase compared to what it was only 3 years ago. Add that up, $76 increase in 3 years. At what point is enough enough? Do these workers deserve raises like everyone else in the world? Sure, but pay for that through the fares, that are also going up, rather than through the DSC that's eventually going to be as much as the fare if it keeps going... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level six Posted December 9, 2022 #159 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 hours ago, RocketMan275 said: At most a $56 increase for a seven day cruise and some here go hyperbolic. $300 more for a 30 day cruise for us! We usually do not cruise unless it is 30 days or more, 48 being the longest. Grats would be $1920 for a 48 day cruise..........for 2 people. That's a lot! We usually only eat in the buffet, carry on our own luggage, do not drink, only have service one time a day! We are not needy people and and require only minimal service. Nope. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted December 9, 2022 #160 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, geopuzzle said: It is going up by $180 for my family of 5 on a 9 day cruise, for our single O5 cabin. Now $900 in gratuities. Yes, I think that is ridiculous. They shouldn't charge children the same amount as adults. Cleaning a cabin with 5 people is more work than cleaning a cabin with 2 people, but not 250% the amount of work. There is still only 1 bathroom to clean. For a family that prefers buffets to table service and only drinks tap water (for health reasons), and whose kids don't enjoy kids clubs, the cost doesn't make sense. Just because you have three kids isn't justification for charging children less. Children often create more mess than adults. That $180 is $20 more per day or $4 more per person per day. Edited December 9, 2022 by RocketMan275 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare New2cruise2022 Posted December 9, 2022 #161 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, hallux said: Except that $56 increase this year is on top of the $20 increase compared to what it was only 3 years ago. Add that up, $76 increase in 3 years. At what point is enough enough? Do these workers deserve raises like everyone else in the world? Sure, but pay for that through the fares, that are also going up, rather than through the DSC that's eventually going to be as much as the fare if it keeps going... It continues to be a messaging and packaging issue for NCL. Inflation and cost of labor are real world problems that most cruisers recognize. But it is packaged in the ambiguity of a daily service fee that for whatever reason — real or not — is perceived to be a mandatory gratuity. The fact that it is available for pay after “final” payment, makes people uncomfortable. It doesn’t matter if this is the way things are done or there is a long history, critical consumers are not happy with it. It is why any of these threads gets so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare New2cruise2022 Posted December 9, 2022 #162 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 hours ago, geopuzzle said: It is going up by $180 for my family of 5 on a 9 day cruise, for our single O5 cabin. Now $900 in gratuities. Yes, I think that is ridiculous. They shouldn't charge children the same amount as adults. Cleaning a cabin with 5 people is more work than cleaning a cabin with 2 people, but not 250% the amount of work. There is still only 1 bathroom to clean. For a family that prefers buffets to table service and only drinks tap water (for health reasons), and whose kids don't enjoy kids clubs, the cost doesn't make sense. This sounds like a reasonable assertion to have the DSC removed for you personally. Or adjusted. I believe you could ask to have it removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted December 9, 2022 #163 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, DaCruiseBug said: Someone posts this every time this happens. So when can we actually add it all up? If you have a $40-50 increase every couple of months do you get to stack it? Great job at being the perfect NCL customer. It's frequently posted because it points how the hyperbolia in your arguments. $4 per day when inflation is running over 8%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted December 9, 2022 #164 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, mianmike said: I'm conflicted. As a NCLH shareholder, I love your attitude. We don't need budget savvy cruisers. "A dollar here, a dollar there, who cares!" Keep the opaque fees coming such that the total cost of a cruise is ambiguous. But as a budget savvy cruiser who isn't married to one cruise line these fees really complicate the search for the most value. If you think you can find a better deal, then go for it. I'm sure a bit of research in the other forums on CC will reveal similar complaints. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted December 9, 2022 #165 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 minute ago, RocketMan275 said: It's frequently posted because it points how the hyperbolia in your arguments. $4 per day when inflation is running over 8%. an 8% increase in the DSC would be WELCOME. For balcony and below this is a 25% increase (since they're now lumped into a "Club suites and below" category).. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted December 9, 2022 #166 Share Posted December 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, hallux said: an 8% increase in the DSC would be WELCOME. For balcony and below this is a 25% increase (since they're now lumped into a "Club suites and below" category).. It's still an almost insignifcant increase in the cost of the cruise. $50 on a seven day $5000 cruise is about 1%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted December 9, 2022 #167 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 minute ago, RocketMan275 said: It's still an almost insignifcant increase in the cost of the cruise. $50 on a seven day $5000 cruise is about 1%. But on my Studio at $900 for a 7-day cruise with port fees and taxes, a $28 increase is a little harder to swallow at over 3%... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted December 9, 2022 #168 Share Posted December 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, hallux said: But on my Studio at $900 for a 7-day cruise with port fees and taxes, a $28 increase is a little harder to swallow at over 3%... Inflation is running at over 7%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishguy1970 Posted December 9, 2022 #169 Share Posted December 9, 2022 wow that is quite a hike in price. Hmmm when will the cap be? 50 dollars? 100 dollars a day? I don't mind paying extra for my waiter, for my steward but the raises are getting ridiculous from 16 dollars to 20 is quite a hike in price. Sigh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare New2cruise2022 Posted December 9, 2022 #170 Share Posted December 9, 2022 The same way that some travelers will tip the bartender and some people won’t, some will pay the DSC and some won’t. Some will continue to sail with NCL and some won’t. NCL will be fine with the results of their packaging and pricing, or they won’t and they will readjust. It may not be a big deal for @RocketMan275 but it may all the difference for @hallux 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishguy1970 Posted December 9, 2022 #171 Share Posted December 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, hallux said: But on my Studio at $900 for a 7-day cruise with port fees and taxes, a $28 increase is a little harder to swallow at over 3%... I agree. We just came back from our cruise on the Escape after a 3 year hiatus. We had a good time and good service for the most part, we have another cruise in April and then we will pause cruises on NCL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishguy1970 Posted December 9, 2022 #172 Share Posted December 9, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 4:06 PM, New2cruise2022 said: Won’t the answer for a lot of people upset with the increases to either reduce to the rate they expected or remove them altogether? i read somewhere else i think it was facebook that someone had a problem removing it from their cruise, apparently NCL is requiring a good excuse now to remove them, is anyone else having that experience? when we booked our last cruise on the Escape they raised their daily service charge and we were asked to prepay to avoid the raise and here they are doing it again for our April cruise. LOL is a yearly event. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare New2cruise2022 Posted December 9, 2022 #173 Share Posted December 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, spanishguy1970 said: i read somewhere else i think it was facebook that someone had a problem removing it from their cruise, apparently NCL is requiring a good excuse now to remove them, is anyone else having that experience? when we booked our last cruise on the Escape they raised their daily service charge and we were asked to prepay to avoid the raise and here they are doing it again for our April cruise. LOL is a yearly event. I think with any interaction with customer service across any industry, you will get different results depending on the representative. But I don’t know how they could define a good excuse vs a bad excuse. But I don’t have any experience removing the DSC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PATRLR Posted December 9, 2022 #174 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, RocketMan275 said: It's frequently posted because it points how the hyperbolia in your arguments. $4 per day when inflation is running over 8%. It's a 25% increase, so, let's not talk about inflation. For me the $56 isn't going to break the bank. The $56 is just one more annoying point where NCL is grabbing more money. I don't even mind the idea of an increase considering the aforementioned rate of inflation. What catches my attention is the 25% increase. Edited December 9, 2022 by PATRLR 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PATRLR Posted December 9, 2022 #175 Share Posted December 9, 2022 30 minutes ago, spanishguy1970 said: i read somewhere else i think it was facebook that someone had a problem removing it from their cruise, apparently NCL is requiring a good excuse now to remove them, is anyone else having that experience? when we booked our last cruise on the Escape they raised their daily service charge and we were asked to prepay to avoid the raise and here they are doing it again for our April cruise. LOL is a yearly event. As stated, I don't know how they could quantify the quality of your excuse. Just say something like "dining service, including the buffets, was poor all week" - who's to dispute that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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