RocketMan275 Posted December 7, 2022 #26 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, PTC DAWG said: Exactly this...not sure why everyone is so obsessed with various charges. You either like the final price and accept it or not. There are a select few posters who fervently believe their costs would decrease if the cruise line just paid the crew from fare revenues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weltek Posted December 7, 2022 #27 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Geez, I don't usually develop this attitude until at least Day 5. 😃 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCruiseBug Posted December 7, 2022 #28 Share Posted December 7, 2022 51 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said: We have a few posters who simply do not like the idea of gratuities. Many believe that if an employer raises pay, they can avoid the cost of gratuities and their costs will be reduced. Most people have absolutely no problem paying “gratuities”. Some people just don’t like the idea of something being sold as one thing but actually going to something else. The same goes with “port fees and taxes” which NCL inflates so they can pocket more of your money without you actually thinking NCL is getting it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted December 7, 2022 #29 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, DaCruiseBug said: Most people have absolutely no problem paying “gratuities”. Some people just don’t like the idea of something being sold as one thing but actually going to something else. The same goes with “port fees and taxes” which NCL inflates so they can pocket more of your money without you actually thinking NCL is getting it. Have you thought about finding a cruise line that is more in line with your desires? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoCruiseFan Posted December 7, 2022 #30 Share Posted December 7, 2022 9 hours ago, DaCruiseBug said: Please stop calling them “tips”. The service charges you pay don’t go directly to staff. They’re used in part to fund “incentive programs” that NCL has for employees. So to answer your question…the same people that get your money if you were to have 50 drinks per day get it if you have 1 drink per day. He is talking about the tips on the FAS packages NOT the DSC which, as you say, are not tips. You are answering a question not asked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoCruiseFan Posted December 7, 2022 #31 Share Posted December 7, 2022 10 hours ago, KeithJenner said: Nobody here knows. I love it when someone posts a factually accurate reply instead of the far too often opinions! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoCruiseFan Posted December 7, 2022 #32 Share Posted December 7, 2022 7 hours ago, DaCruiseBug said: The DSC and beverage package service charges go to the same exact place…a NCL bank account. They don’t end up in the workers pockets as gratuities or tips. Yet another example of someone spouting opinion a if it were fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoCruiseFan Posted December 7, 2022 #33 Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 hours ago, zqvol said: It is a service charge. It all goes to management, who pays the crew salaries. It is not a gratuity. Yet one more example of opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoCruiseFan Posted December 7, 2022 #34 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, DaCruiseBug said: The same goes with “port fees and taxes” which NCL inflates so they can pocket more of your money without you actually thinking NCL is getting it. And yet another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATRLR Posted December 7, 2022 #35 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Why do I feel like I just watched a teacher correcting an exam? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traveling Man Posted December 7, 2022 #36 Share Posted December 7, 2022 5 hours ago, zqvol said: It is a service charge. It all goes to management, who pays the crew salaries. It is not a gratuity. As noted in Post #7, NCL clearly states that the Daily Service Charge is used to provide gratuities for crew members. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCruiseBug Posted December 7, 2022 #37 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, MoCruiseFan said: And yet another. Not an opinion. Compare the taxes and port fees between NCL and other cruise lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMateJRK Posted December 7, 2022 #38 Share Posted December 7, 2022 44 minutes ago, DaCruiseBug said: Not an opinion. Compare the taxes and port fees between NCL and other cruise lines. Did you adjust for time in port when making all of the comparisons? That would be a lot of work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngrund Posted December 7, 2022 #39 Share Posted December 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, ChiefMateJRK said: Did you adjust for time in port when making all of the comparisons? That would be a lot of work. and wouldn't the size of the ship itself (not just passenger count) change the port fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted December 7, 2022 #40 Share Posted December 7, 2022 7 hours ago, RocketMan275 said: What is important is whether the crew and the cruise line are satisfied with this system. Nothing else matters. I'll piggyback off this and say that any potential passenger who us not satisfied with this system is free to look elsewhere. I have to say that being dissatisfied with a given policy on a given cruise line has enabled me to discover lots of great cruising options. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odie1024 Posted December 7, 2022 #41 Share Posted December 7, 2022 2 hours ago, RocketMan275 said: Have you thought about finding a cruise line that is more in line with your desires? I was thinking the same thing, actually I don't think cruising is for @DaCruiseBug 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted December 7, 2022 #42 Share Posted December 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, ngrund said: and wouldn't the size of the ship itself (not just passenger count) change the port fee? Size matters 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
complawyer Posted December 7, 2022 #43 Share Posted December 7, 2022 zzdoug, if you can drink $109 worth of booze per day, youre a better man than I gunga din! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bortman23 Posted December 8, 2022 #44 Share Posted December 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Two Wheels Only said: Bonus points for the first person to name where this is from The Hidden (1987) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted December 8, 2022 #45 Share Posted December 8, 2022 50 minutes ago, bortman23 said: The Hidden (1987) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TominNC Posted December 8, 2022 #46 Share Posted December 8, 2022 12 hours ago, New2cruise2022 said: Recipe for a snarky thread: 1 - Talk about any or all of the following: tips, gratuities, drink packages, DSC 2 - Challenge someone on the terminology 3 - Say that someone said something about something you said so they think you are saying something about something they said about the thing you were saying. 4 - Repeat. This is the new "dress code" snarky topic? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbcallender Posted December 8, 2022 #47 Share Posted December 8, 2022 They already got your money whether you drink it up or not. The grats go in a pool that gets distributed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCruiseBug Posted December 8, 2022 #48 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, odie1024 said: I was thinking the same thing, actually I don't think cruising is for @DaCruiseBug I've done 4 cruises this year. Extremely satisfied with my choices. Just because i'm not a NCL cheerleader I should not cruise? Edited December 8, 2022 by DaCruiseBug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillygwm Posted December 8, 2022 #49 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 7:30 AM, New2cruise2022 said: Well said @phillygwm — just the same as you have weighed in on the many other threads. It'll come up again, don't worry 🙂 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillygwm Posted December 8, 2022 #50 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 10:54 AM, RocketMan275 said: What is important is whether the crew and the cruise line are satisfied with this system. Nothing else matters. This. Like any of us, if the crew felt they weren't fairly compensated and there was a better package elsewhere, they'd look for alternate working arrangements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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