MaisonRose Posted January 4, 2023 #1 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I’m trying to figure out if it is worth booking a HAVE IT ALL fare but can’t find a way to compare the inclusive vs the component prices: it seems that I need a booking to access the various costs on the HAL site. . What I need is, for example 1. Daily cost of lower level wi fi and is it per device or per cabin? 2. Drink cost such as club soda, cappuccino, glass of wine at dinner. Predictable bottle of wine in MDR Signature per day rate. 3. Pinnacle meal pp. 4. Any way to predict ship excursion prices (there are only two stops on the NY-Rotterdam crossing). The upcharge on this 13 day cruise is about $1000 pp for Have it All. Thanks: Susan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotpony Posted January 4, 2023 #2 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1. Wifi is the Surf package ($15/day) 2. Drinks are fairly typical prices ($5/fancy coffee, $7-15 for most alcoholic drinks, not sure about sodas). Signature package is $54.95 (I think) + 18%. 3. Pinnacle is $39 last I saw it. 4. Excursions range from $50-$5000+ depending on what you do, but typically are $80-150 for most of what we've done. We have found the Have It All package worth it for us so far, we break even somewhere around 5 drinks total (coffees, cocktails). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Suzy Posted January 4, 2023 #3 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Here is the per person Internet cost for 1 device. Each person on the HIA booking receives an account. For drink and meal prices see https://rogerjett-photography.com/ The Signature Beverage package costs about $50 per day (including the 18% service charge) Shore excursions can run as low as $40 and can exceed several hundred for private excursions. You can use the Shore Excursion credits on multiple excursions or just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julia Posted January 4, 2023 #4 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, MaisonRose said: The upcharge on this 13 day cruise is about $1000 pp for Have it All. Thanks: Susan That is high. I added the HIA two weeks after booking at $50/pp/pd. Your HIA should be $1300 total. I break out the $50 per day (approximately): $15 spec rests/excursions $10 wifi $35 drinks (and at $9-$11/per glass of wine, I drink WAY more than $35 a day!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Suzy Posted January 4, 2023 #5 Share Posted January 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, julia said: That is high. I added the HIA two weeks after booking at $50/pp/pd. Your HIA should be $1300 total. I think the OP is comparing the Best Price fare (non-refundable deposit) with the Best Value fare (refundable deposit and HIA). Part of the difference is due to the refundable deposit. I always use the Advantage fare (refundable deposit but not HIA) for comparison purposes. The Advantage price is not shown on the Website but can be obtained by calling or estimating by adding the deposit to the Best Price fare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotpony Posted January 4, 2023 #6 Share Posted January 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, julia said: $35 drinks (and at $9-$11/per glass of wine, I drink WAY more than $35 a day!) Sadly on our last Caribbean trip we did too 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted January 4, 2023 #7 Share Posted January 4, 2023 We recently paid $500 for a 11 day cruise for the HIA - drinks, $200 per person in Shore excursions and the free wifi, plus 2 specialty dinners each. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YXU AC*SE Posted January 4, 2023 #8 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Related / unrelated. Looking at the same(ish) cruise 18-day ex-NYC. Seeing the same sort of pricing gradient for the cabin we're looking at. Have not sailed since HIA's introduction? Is HIA (or CO) ever pitched as an upsell post booking? ie offered with some sort of sweetener / incentive post booking but pre sailing? And is that via the booking agency, or direct to the end consumer (ie me) Initial booking would be a self-serve booking via an high-volume, cruise-only TA. Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted January 4, 2023 #9 Share Posted January 4, 2023 41 minutes ago, YXU AC*SE said: Related / unrelated. Looking at the same(ish) cruise 18-day ex-NYC. Seeing the same sort of pricing gradient for the cabin we're looking at. Have not sailed since HIA's introduction? Is HIA (or CO) ever pitched as an upsell post booking? ie offered with some sort of sweetener / incentive post booking but pre sailing? And is that via the booking agency, or direct to the end consumer (ie me) Initial booking would be a self-serve booking via an high-volume, cruise-only TA. Scott. Rules/processes might be different for the UK, but in the US, if you don't book HIA when you book the cruise, HAL will send offers via email, probably more than once. I book through a TA and the offer for HIA was sent directly to me. The going rate is $50 per person per day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CruiserN1 Posted January 4, 2023 #10 Share Posted January 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, 3rdGenCunarder said: Rules/processes might be different for the UK, but in the US, if you don't book HIA when you book the cruise, HAL will send offers via email, probably more than once. I book through a TA and the offer for HIA was sent directly to me. The going rate is $50 per person per day. I noticed that the HIA package is "Available for most fare types" according to the HAL website. But the T&C's don't specify which fare types are exclued. Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorenceItaly Posted January 4, 2023 #11 Share Posted January 4, 2023 19 minutes ago, CruiserN1 said: I noticed that the HIA package is "Available for most fare types" according to the HAL website. But the T&C's don't specify which fare types are exclued. Anyone know? In November, on a 7 day complimentary casino cruise HIA was offered...$350pp. We purchased it about a week before we left.. On our upcoming May cruise, a 16 day complimentary casino cruise it is not. It was previously, but no longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellokate Posted January 5, 2023 #12 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I just put my deposit down on the 13-DAY 150TH Anniversary Transatlantic April 6-19 and had worked it out as the following: *Note: 3 Star Mariner which may or may not have affected how much OBC we received* Inside $750 pp (Room Only) = $57.69 per day Inside $1559 pp (Have it All) I paid an extra $20 for the room we wanted. =$119.92 per day That is a $809.00 difference PP for HIA. The perceived PP benefits are this: Signature Beverage Package = $689.52 x 18% gratuity = $813.63 Surf Wi-Fi = $15 per day = $195.00 Specialty Dining (2 credits per person) = $46 (Pinnacle Grill) x 2 = $92.00 Excursion Credits ($100 credit per excursion x 2) = $200 OBC $ 150 Total Benefits Received = $1,450.63 per person Total cost to upgrade to Have It All = $809 Total Savings = $641.63 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakridger Posted January 5, 2023 #13 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Welcome to Cruise Critic @hellokate! The Signature Beverage Package is actually $44.95/day plus 18% gratuity equals $53.04/day. 13 days will be $689.52 including gratuity. Better! ~Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakridger Posted January 5, 2023 #14 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Beverage-Packages-2023.pdf (rogerjett-photography.com) Thank you, as always @Crew News! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted January 5, 2023 #15 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) For what its worth - I noticed on my upcoming 7 day Caribbean cruise (from a casino free cabin offer) HAL is offering HIA for $50 per day as an add-on. This includes $100 for excursions, free wifi and a specialty dinner. Not a bad deal IMO. Edited January 5, 2023 by DaveOKC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donandmelissa Posted January 5, 2023 #16 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) We bought it for our 2024 transatlantic but did not buy it for our 2023 transatlantic. The 2024 HIA is considerably better than the 2023 because it includes top internet package, top drink package and prepaid gratuities. Here is how we evaluated it. Your mileage may vary. We tallied the cost of all of the HIA type expenses we are likely to incur on the cruise and then compared that to the HIA cost. We kept in in mind that everyone in your cabin has to buy HIA if one does. So, unless you are traveling solo, the comparison has to be for 2 passengers, not just solo. HIA costs we will always incur: internet, excursions and specialty restaurant. One of us does not drink alcohol and the other is a light drinker, so we ordinarily do the alcoholic beverages a la cart. For the 2023 14 day transatlantic the HIA items we would buy is the internet package ($352), shore excursions ($400) and 1 dinner each at PG and Tamarind ($160). So, we would be spending $912 plus drinks if we did not buy the HIA. HIA is $1400 for the 2 of us. We would have to spend $35 per day between us for drinks to break even. We decided to roll the dice and go ala carte. If either of us were even a moderate drinker, purchasing HIA would be a no brainer. For the 2024 14 day transatlantic, the items we would buy are the premium internet package ($352), shore excursions ($400), 1 dinner each at PG and Tamarind ($160), prepaid gratuities ($454). We would be spending $1,366 plus drinks if we went ala carte. The cost of HIA was $1540. We only need to spend $13 per day between us on drinks to break even. Purchasing HIA was a no brainer even though we don’t spend much on alcohol. Edited January 5, 2023 by donandmelissa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellokate Posted January 6, 2023 #17 Share Posted January 6, 2023 23 hours ago, oakridger said: Welcome to Cruise Critic @hellokate! The Signature Beverage Package is actually $44.95/day plus 18% gratuity equals $53.04/day. 13 days will be $689.52 including gratuity. Better! ~Nancy Hi Nancy - Thanks for the welcome, not new though... just a new user name. The Signature Beverage Package if bought prior to sailing is $44.95 per day. If bought onboard it is $54.95 per day. When I quickly grabbed the price late last night I took the total from my cart and erroneously added tax on it a second time based on the verbiage but did not go through the checkout process to verify. Pre-Paid = $689.52 including gratuity Bought onboard = $842.93 including gratuity That brings my per person savings to either $517.52 if pre-buy or $641.63 if onboard. Still worth it for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakridger Posted January 6, 2023 #18 Share Posted January 6, 2023 @hellokateFor sure HIA is a good deal if you plan on purchasing the beverage package anyway! That's a pretty big difference between the pre purchase and onboard cost! ~Nancy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaisonRose Posted January 6, 2023 Author #19 Share Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 12:17 AM, hellokate said: I just put my deposit down on the 13-DAY 150TH Anniversary Transatlantic April 6-19 and had worked it out as the following: *Note: 3 Star Mariner which may or may not have affected how much OBC we received* Inside $750 pp (Room Only) = $57.69 per day Inside $1559 pp (Have it All) I paid an extra $20 for the room we wanted. =$119.92 per day That is a $809.00 difference PP for HIA. The perceived PP benefits are this: Signature Beverage Package = $689.52 x 18% gratuity = $813.63 Surf Wi-Fi = $15 per day = $195.00 Specialty Dining (2 credits per person) = $46 (Pinnacle Grill) x 2 = $92.00 Excursion Credits ($100 credit per excursion x 2) = $200 OBC $ 150 Total Benefits Received = $1,450.63 per person Total cost to upgrade to Have It All = $809 Total Savings = $641.63 Im On 1/5/2023 at 12:17 AM, hellokate said: I’m totally impressed and 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaisonRose Posted January 6, 2023 Author #20 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I’m totally impressed with the knowledge shared in response to my inquiry, and grateful to everyone giving time to sharing their experience & expertise. i booked today with a cabin in VH and await further communications from HAL (cross fingers). At the least I will add Quench and wi fi if no big offers are not forthcoming. SO glad to be back to HAL after several years of poor timing & TA schedules. I really love this cruise line! Thanks to everyone. Susan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare scooter6139 Posted January 6, 2023 #21 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Sorry to intrude, noob on HAL cruising as we usually do Princess or NCL (we do have one HAL cruise though!) We are looking at replacing our Princess Alaska with a Westerdan sailing in August. Does Westerdam have an Elite Beverage Package option? Can one upgrade from the Have It All? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Suzy Posted January 6, 2023 #22 Share Posted January 6, 2023 39 minutes ago, scooter6139 said: We are looking at replacing our Princess Alaska with a Westerdan sailing in August. Does Westerdam have an Elite Beverage Package option? Can one upgrade from the Have It All? Yes, you can upgrade onboard for about $10 pp pd as long as you do it before ordering any beverage. It includes beverages up to $15 menu price rather than $11 for the Signature Beverage Package. However, it might not be worth it, depending upon how much and what you drink. Starting in fall of 2022, passengers with the Signature package paid only the difference plus 18% between menu cost and $11. Previously, they paid full menu price plus 18%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare scooter6139 Posted January 6, 2023 #23 Share Posted January 6, 2023 39 minutes ago, Cruise Suzy said: Yes, you can upgrade onboard for about $10 pp pd as long as you do it before ordering any beverage. It includes beverages up to $15 menu price rather than $11 for the Signature Beverage Package. However, it might not be worth it, depending upon how much and what you drink. Starting in fall of 2022, passengers with the Signature package paid only the difference plus 18% between menu cost and $11. Previously, they paid full menu price plus 18%. Thanks! Only changes the $ from 11 to 15, correct? Doesn't really seem to be much, so probably not worth it. Do non-alcohol drinks count towards the 15 per day, or is that alcohol only? I'm known for having, at breakfast: Coke Zero, Bloody Mary, Energy drink, OJ (fresh squeezed if availabe) and a water. The wait staff found my liquid needs amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Suzy Posted January 7, 2023 #24 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 hours ago, scooter6139 said: Do non-alcohol drinks count towards the 15 per day, Yes, all the beverages with a menu price count. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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