audcc77 Posted May 2, 2023 #201 Share Posted May 2, 2023 3 hours ago, wemjam said: So, this could be back firing on them already. I was curious so I looked, we cruise in 18 days and there are still Cabanas and Villas available at the $699, $999 rate. Ahh, yes. Price-chicken has already begun. 🐓 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wemjam Posted May 2, 2023 #202 Share Posted May 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, audcc77 said: Ahh, yes. Price-chicken has already begun. 🐓 Just have to say this... your baby in the picture looks like ours we lost a year ago. So cute! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wemjam Posted May 2, 2023 #203 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, momof3cruisers said: I know that about Carnival. In the past we’ve always gotten a cabana. (Although that isn’t happening at these prices!) However, my sisters rented a cabana while sailing with Holland America. They did not have to go to the buffet. They had a butler type person assigned to them who checked in regularly throughout the day, brought food beyond the provided snacks etc. I guess I’ll have to ask on the Holland board if they still do that. Well son of a gun! So Holland has butlers for the same price... well that sucks the big one lol! I want my Jeeve's Edited May 2, 2023 by wemjam 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted May 2, 2023 #204 Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 hours ago, momof3cruisers said: I know that about Carnival. In the past we’ve always gotten a cabana. (Although that isn’t happening at these prices!) However, my sisters rented a cabana while sailing with Holland America. They did not have to go to the buffet. They had a butler type person assigned to them who checked in regularly throughout the day, brought food beyond the provided snacks etc. I guess I’ll have to ask on the Holland board if they still do that. For an upgrade charge Butler Service Upgrade Package for Beach Villas This special service upgrade is available to those guests who have purchased a Half Moon Cay Beach Villa Package (guests who are waitlisted for a Beach Villa should not purchase this upgrade until they have cleared the waitlist and secured a confirmed Beach Villa booking). The Butler Service Upgrade Package includes: - Unlimited beverages available from the various bars on Half Moon Cay. Drinks made from house brand liquor, all beers, soft drinks, bottled water and wine. - A picnic lunch consisting of appetizer, entree, and dessert. - Butler escort from your cabin to assist you from ship to shore. - Your Butler will see to whatever needs you have on the island including shopping from the island shops and any Shore Excursions bookings you may like to make on Half Moon Cay. The Butler Service Upgrade Package price is applicable for up to 8 guests. For groups of more than 8 guests, each additional guest must purchase an Extra Person Surcharge for the Butler Service Upgrade. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted May 2, 2023 #205 Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 hours ago, wemjam said: Well son of a gun! So Holland has butlers for the same price... well that sucks the big one lol! I want my Jeeve's A sneaky way to count the number of guests in a villa. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wemjam Posted May 2, 2023 #206 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: For an upgrade charge Butler Service Upgrade Package for Beach Villas This special service upgrade is available to those guests who have purchased a Half Moon Cay Beach Villa Package (guests who are waitlisted for a Beach Villa should not purchase this upgrade until they have cleared the waitlist and secured a confirmed Beach Villa booking). The Butler Service Upgrade Package includes: - Unlimited beverages available from the various bars on Half Moon Cay. Drinks made from house brand liquor, all beers, soft drinks, bottled water and wine. - A picnic lunch consisting of appetizer, entree, and dessert. - Butler escort from your cabin to assist you from ship to shore. - Your Butler will see to whatever needs you have on the island including shopping from the island shops and any Shore Excursions bookings you may like to make on Half Moon Cay. The Butler Service Upgrade Package price is applicable for up to 8 guests. For groups of more than 8 guests, each additional guest must purchase an Extra Person Surcharge for the Butler Service Upgrade. There's the catch! So how much extra is this? so you pay $999 for villa (current price anyhow) and how much more for this? Edited May 2, 2023 by wemjam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KmomChicago Posted May 2, 2023 #207 Share Posted May 2, 2023 20 minutes ago, wemjam said: There's the catch! So how much extra is this? so you pay $999 for villa (current price anyhow) and how much more for this? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KmomChicago Posted May 2, 2023 #208 Share Posted May 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, wemjam said: There's the catch! So how much extra is this? so you pay $999 for villa (current price anyhow) and how much more for this? Okay not really that other answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icft Posted May 2, 2023 #209 Share Posted May 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, KmomChicago said: Okay not really that other answer. Ummm... Is "Butler Service" code for something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KmomChicago Posted May 2, 2023 #210 Share Posted May 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, icft said: Ummm... Is "Butler Service" code for something else? Right, it doesn't seem like you're getting much value for your $400, but then, I assume that price point would still not quite touch what you "might" be getting at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icft Posted May 2, 2023 #211 Share Posted May 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, KmomChicago said: Right, it doesn't seem like you're getting much value for your $400, but then, I assume that price point would still not quite touch what you "might" be getting at. Yeah, but I've played this game with my wife before. "Starting At" means à la carte and the upsell is what gets you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof3cruisers Posted May 3, 2023 #212 Share Posted May 3, 2023 7 hours ago, KmomChicago said: Right, it doesn't seem like you're getting much value for your $400, but then, I assume that price point would still not quite touch what you "might" be getting at. They are charging $700 for a three sided hut, how much were you hoping for for $400?? 😂 Better drink up I guess! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wemjam Posted May 3, 2023 #213 Share Posted May 3, 2023 12 hours ago, icft said: Yeah, but I've played this game with my wife before. "Starting At" means à la carte and the upsell is what gets you. That's what I was thinking too.. "starting at." So $400 may or may not include everything - like all you can drink. So for a Villa you are talking a cool grand for it, then at least $400 more for a butler. Sorry for that price I will get my own food and $400 buys a lot of liquor - more than I can drink! (if that is even fully included in that price) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wemjam Posted May 3, 2023 #214 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Curiosity got the best of me, so went to see exactly what is left for our sailing in just over 2 weeks. 3 Villas 6 Cabana's 1 Private Oasis Think the increased pricing really is impacting it, I can't recall ever seeing any Cabanas or Villas, or even the Private Oasis open this close to sailing. If it didn't mean walking the entire length of the beach I would would see how many sit empty the day we get there lol. I hope, since I love these, they find they have priced people right out of buying and bring it back down a notch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missholly24 Posted May 3, 2023 Author #215 Share Posted May 3, 2023 23 hours ago, wemjam said: Well son of a gun! So Holland has butlers for the same price... well that sucks the big one lol! I want my Jeeve's Holland has the VILLAS for $699. The Cabana at Carnival is $699 no butler option, Villa 999 no butler. Just to clarify double annoying!! 1 hour ago, wemjam said: Curiosity got the best of me, so went to see exactly what is left for our sailing in just over 2 weeks. 3 Villas 6 Cabana's 1 Private Oasis Think the increased pricing really is impacting it, I can't recall ever seeing any Cabanas or Villas, or even the Private Oasis open this close to sailing. If it didn't mean walking the entire length of the beach I would would see how many sit empty the day we get there lol. I hope, since I love these, they find they have priced people right out of buying and bring it back down a notch. We still have them available for ours in Feb. Both types. The Private Oasis was booked right away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wemjam Posted May 3, 2023 #216 Share Posted May 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, missholly24 said: Holland has the VILLAS for $699. The Cabana at Carnival is $699 no butler option, Villa 999 no butler. Just to clarify double annoying!! Well that is even more annoying. So the Villa is $699, the same price as the Cabana on Carnival. No butler, higher price...What gives? 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missholly24 Posted May 3, 2023 Author #217 Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 minute ago, wemjam said: Well that is even more annoying. So the Villa is $699, the same price as the Cabana on Carnival. No butler, higher price...What gives? 😁 Yes you can check right on their website! haha...they actually own the island I believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted May 3, 2023 #218 Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 hour ago, missholly24 said: Holland has the VILLAS for $699. The Cabana at Carnival is $699 no butler option, Villa 999 no butler. Just to clarify double annoying!! And the price of a Holland cruise compared to Carnival? 1 hour ago, missholly24 said: We still have them available for ours in Feb. Both types. The Private Oasis was booked right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof3cruisers Posted May 3, 2023 #219 Share Posted May 3, 2023 49 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: And the price of a Holland cruise compared to Carnival? That is the catch right there! Carnival’s strategy seems to be to get bodies on the ship and then upsell as much as possible. Which is fine. If people will pay it, then why not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6uqqq Posted May 3, 2023 #220 Share Posted May 3, 2023 3 hours ago, wemjam said: Curiosity got the best of me, so went to see exactly what is left for our sailing in just over 2 weeks. 3 Villas 6 Cabana's 1 Private Oasis Think the increased pricing really is impacting it, I can't recall ever seeing any Cabanas or Villas, or even the Private Oasis open this close to sailing. If it didn't mean walking the entire length of the beach I would would see how many sit empty the day we get there lol. I hope, since I love these, they find they have priced people right out of buying and bring it back down a notch. How much is the Oasis now? It was 1599 for our February cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Jamman54 Posted May 3, 2023 #221 Share Posted May 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, n6uqqq said: How much is the Oasis now? It was 1599 for our February cruise. 2K. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted May 3, 2023 #222 Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 hour ago, momof3cruisers said: That is the catch right there! Carnival’s strategy seems to be to get bodies on the ship and then upsell as much as possible. Which is fine. If people will pay it, then why not? There really isn't a catch. Carnival doesn't make money off of cabins, they make it off of onboard spend. Another cruise line might choose to collect upfront before you get on the ship. A business has to make money somewhere. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staceyglow Posted May 4, 2023 #223 Share Posted May 4, 2023 7 hours ago, wemjam said: Curiosity got the best of me, so went to see exactly what is left for our sailing in just over 2 weeks. 3 Villas 6 Cabana's 1 Private Oasis Think the increased pricing really is impacting it, I can't recall ever seeing any Cabanas or Villas, or even the Private Oasis open this close to sailing. If it didn't mean walking the entire length of the beach I would would see how many sit empty the day we get there lol. I hope, since I love these, they find they have priced people right out of buying and bring it back down a notch. At the current prices, Carnival could sell none of the remaining cabanas or villas and they will still be making more money than they would have at the old price. Now that doesn't mean that they may lower the price of the remaining units in order to get a sellout. But they may also decide to comp them to some of the big gamblers on board. Casinos do that type of thing all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted May 4, 2023 #224 Share Posted May 4, 2023 8 hours ago, wemjam said: Curiosity got the best of me, so went to see exactly what is left for our sailing in just over 2 weeks. 3 Villas 6 Cabana's 1 Private Oasis Think the increased pricing really is impacting it, I can't recall ever seeing any Cabanas or Villas, or even the Private Oasis open this close to sailing. If it didn't mean walking the entire length of the beach I would would see how many sit empty the day we get there lol. I hope, since I love these, they find they have priced people right out of buying and bring it back down a notch. All you have to do is check with shore excursions the day before to see how many are left, if any, and if there was a price reduction once on the ship. We look forward to your report. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof3cruisers Posted May 4, 2023 #225 Share Posted May 4, 2023 6 hours ago, BlerkOne said: There really isn't a catch. Carnival doesn't make money off of cabins, they make it off of onboard spend. Another cruise line might choose to collect upfront before you get on the ship. A business has to make money somewhere. I didn’t mean catch as in a trick simply that the money is coming from somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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