NCteacherlovescruising Posted May 22, 2023 Author #26 Share Posted May 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, shipgeeks said: I'm not European, but I always cleanse my face and remove my makeup with either facial makeup remover sheets (disposable), or with micellar water and cotton rounds (disposable). I don't feel as if I would ever get washcloths clean in the laundry if I got any significant amount of makeup on them (and I don't use all that much, primarily mascara). I buy rags specially made to remove makeup and a makeup remover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipgeeks Posted May 22, 2023 #27 Share Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, NCteacherlovescruising said: I buy rags specially made to remove makeup and a makeup remover. Disposable, or re-use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCteacherlovescruising Posted May 22, 2023 Author #28 Share Posted May 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, shipgeeks said: Disposable, or re-use? Reusable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingFox27 Posted May 22, 2023 #29 Share Posted May 22, 2023 3 hours ago, NCteacherlovescruising said: I wonder how European women wash their face. I like a new one daily too so not sure what I will do when we go there next summer. 1 hour ago, shipgeeks said: I'm not European, but I always cleanse my face and remove my makeup with either facial makeup remover sheets (disposable), or with micellar water and cotton rounds (disposable). I don't feel as if I would ever get washcloths clean in the laundry if I got any significant amount of makeup on them (and I don't use all that much, primarily mascara). Likewise. I've never considered using a wash cloth to remove make up. I have eye make up removal liquid to use with cotton wool and soft make up removal sheets for my face. Soap, water and a wash cloth would be far to harsh for my face. I have wondered on why everyone was so invested in wash cloths, it's make up removal primarily? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffybunny22 Posted May 22, 2023 #30 Share Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, NCteacherlovescruising said: I buy rags specially made to remove makeup and a makeup remover. I stay at a hotel that provides a black wash cloth for this. It's labelled makeup remover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted May 22, 2023 #31 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Clearly its a geographic thing. I won't call it cultural because I think all make-up wearing women would agree that it's best practice to remove said make-up at the end of each day so that the skin can breathe and rejuvenate. When in Europe, I compensated by using what I brought with me to remove my make up. The whole "when in Rome" thing. But when I cruise, I want the simple things to be provided for me...AKA wash clothes at my finger tips. I beg forgiveness in this little luxury (?) and hope that other women can unite in the need...whatever it may be. Let's not judge those who choose the remove the make up with a wash cloth any more than those who use other means. As women, we are all in this fight together to look our very best! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCteacherlovescruising Posted May 22, 2023 Author #32 Share Posted May 22, 2023 27 minutes ago, CruisingFox27 said: Likewise. I've never considered using a wash cloth to remove make up. I have eye make up removal liquid to use with cotton wool and soft make up removal sheets for my face. Soap, water and a wash cloth would be far to harsh for my face. I have wondered on why everyone was so invested in wash cloths, it's make up removal primarily? I also have liquid eye makeup remover. I don’t use soap on my face. I use a makeup remover with a soft cloth made to remove makeup. Then I use cleanser and splash with water to rinse. 27 minutes ago, fluffybunny22 said: I stay at a hotel that provides a black wash cloth for this. It's labelled makeup remover. Yes, I have seen those at hotels before. 8 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said: Clearly it’s a geographic thing. I won't call it cultural because I think all make-up wearing women would agree that it's best practice to remove said make-up at the end of each day so that the skin can breathe and rejuvenate. When in Europe, I compensated by using what I brought with me to remove my make up. The whole "when in Rome" thing. But when I cruise, I want the simple things to be provided for me...AKA wash clothes at my finger tips. I beg forgiveness in this little luxury (?) and hope that other women can unite in the need...whatever it may be. Let's not judge those who choose the remove the make up with a wash cloth any more than those who use other means. As women, we are all in this fight together to look our very best! Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzacruiser Posted May 23, 2023 #33 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/22/2023 at 1:32 AM, Homosassa said: You can ask for the following and they will be provided: washcloths box of tissues bar of soap for bathroom sink Just get off Spendida. washcloths - not provided in room box of tissues - did ask for one but was told they don’t carry them anymore. bar of soap - didn’t ask so no idea. happy cruising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousefan73 Posted May 23, 2023 #34 Share Posted May 23, 2023 11 hours ago, NCteacherlovescruising said: I wonder how European women wash their face. I like a new one daily too so not sure what I will do when we go there next summer. We use our hands and yes our faces get clean. If heavy eye make-up I first use cotton balls with make-up remover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousefan73 Posted May 23, 2023 #35 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) Just an OT bit on wash rags or face towels. Decades ago the US market was a bar of soap market. In Europe shower gels were long there. P&G and others found some issues at first it the US as they didnt do well. Turns out the US was a bit prude on washing oneself without a wash rag. In the EU you just squeeze in your hands and go at it. Then somebody had the brilliant idea to create and market the "Loofah" so it was marketed as squeeze into the loofah and then got at it. I am an American and can attest many people I know cannot shower without wash rags and they are not just washing their faces. In the EU you rarely see them in the showers nor loofahs really. This is why in the EU you almost never get washrags in hotels... on the Virtousa we didnt have any. but they had us down as german language, maybe they do the rooms up based on culture too. Edited May 23, 2023 by mousefan73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatBride Posted May 23, 2023 #36 Share Posted May 23, 2023 12 hours ago, NCteacherlovescruising said: I wonder how European women wash their face. With facial cleanser and our hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCteacherlovescruising Posted May 23, 2023 Author #37 Share Posted May 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Elzacruiser said: Just get off Spendida. washcloths - not provided in room box of tissues - did ask for one but was told they don’t carry them anymore. bar of soap - didn’t ask so no idea. happy cruising! No tissue?? Is that a European thing too? 5 hours ago, mousefan73 said: We use our hands and yes our faces get clean. If heavy eye make-up I first use cotton balls with make-up remover. I have tried just using my hands, but then when I apply my toner with cotton, I would see more makeup on that so I went back to using a face cloth. 5 hours ago, ExpatBride said: With facial cleanser and our hands. I have tried just using my hands, but then when I applied my toner with cotton, I would see more makeup on that so I went back to using a face cloth. I do just use my hands with my cleanser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousefan73 Posted May 23, 2023 #38 Share Posted May 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, NCteacherlovescruising said: No tissue?? Is that a European thing too? no tissue. somewhat.. most major hotel chains in EUR have them.. no local places I honestly maybe see this as a sustainability thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipsaur Posted May 23, 2023 #39 Share Posted May 23, 2023 5 hours ago, mousefan73 said: Just an OT bit on wash rags or face towels. Decades ago the US market was a bar of soap market. In Europe shower gels were long there. P&G and others found some issues at first it the US as they didnt do well. Turns out the US was a bit prude on washing oneself without a wash rag. In the EU you just squeeze in your hands and go at it. Then somebody had the brilliant idea to create and market the "Loofah" so it was marketed as squeeze into the loofah and then got at it. I am an American and can attest many people I know cannot shower without wash rags and they are not just washing their faces. In the EU you rarely see them in the showers nor loofahs really. This is why in the EU you almost never get washrags in hotels... on the Virtousa we didnt have any. but they had us down as german language, maybe they do the rooms up based on culture too. This was an interesting bit of perspective! So I'd never expect a hotel or ship to provide a loofah no matter where I was in the world. I wonder if that's the thinking behind no wash cloths? Or more likely just a cost cutting measure...removing them and seeing who cares enough to notice or ask, or if they can get away without them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCteacherlovescruising Posted May 23, 2023 Author #40 Share Posted May 23, 2023 41 minutes ago, mousefan73 said: no tissue. somewhat.. most major hotel chains in EUR have them.. no local places I honestly maybe see this as a sustainability thing. What do they use? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipgeeks Posted May 23, 2023 #41 Share Posted May 23, 2023 I have noticed that boxes of tissues, on another cruiseline, are now only in the cabin, not the bathroom. It made me wonder if people were using them as toilet paper, and perhaps tissues are not as workable in the ship's plumbing. I could be wrong....but I do know that Nothing Other Than Toilet Paper is to be flushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatBride Posted May 23, 2023 #42 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, NCteacherlovescruising said: What do they use? I use toilet paper 🤷♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousefan73 Posted May 23, 2023 #43 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, NCteacherlovescruising said: What do they use? well by us we use Tempos and they come in individual packets that are usually in our bags/purses or junk drawers. But boxes of tissues throughout the house is rare, unless one is going through an allergy or cold phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted May 23, 2023 #44 Share Posted May 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, shipgeeks said: I have noticed that boxes of tissues, on another cruiseline, are now only in the cabin, not the bathroom. It made me wonder if people were using them as toilet paper, and perhaps tissues are not as workable in the ship's plumbing. I could be wrong....but I do know that Nothing Other Than Toilet Paper is to be flushed. This is the explanation I received on MSC. MSC has the standard toilet paper that can be handled by the ship's plumbing. When tissues were placed in the bathroom, passengers would use the tissues and not the toilet paper and cause plumbing clogs. Tissues are not provided unless requested by a passenger and then they are placed in the cabin area and not the bathroom. On other lines, the tissues are now in the cabin area and may be tucked away in one of the drawers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted May 23, 2023 #45 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 5/22/2023 at 9:38 AM, 4sallypat said: So funny reading this thread - differences between US and European folks US and European folks is a blanket generalization. It would be more accurate to state travelers who are aware of different practices outside their local area vs those who are limited in experiences, no matter their national origins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan25 Posted May 23, 2023 #46 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) On 5/21/2023 at 6:32 PM, Homosassa said: You can ask for the following and they will be provided: washcloths box of tissues bar of soap for bathroom sink Currently on Divina transatlantic. Requested washcloths and box of tissues on the second day. I brought my own bar of soap. Washcloth was provided but my request for tissues was politely refused. So I had to provision tissues for myself. Edited May 23, 2023 by logan25 Grammar correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzacruiser Posted May 23, 2023 #47 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 hours ago, shipgeeks said: I have noticed that boxes of tissues, on another cruiseline, are now only in the cabin, not the bathroom. It made me wonder if people were using them as toilet paper, and perhaps tissues are not as workable in the ship's plumbing. I could be wrong....but I do know that Nothing Other Than Toilet Paper is to be flushed. Last RCCL cruise the cabin attendant told me some people messed up with tissue paper into the toilet so they don’t keep them in the bathroom any longer🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatherb1958 Posted May 23, 2023 #48 Share Posted May 23, 2023 MSC have pump soap dispensers in the cabins at the sink , no need to bring a bar of soap which gets squishy and messy . It smells lovely too. They also provide body wash and a separate shampoo. In YC you get their signature smell Med lotions and potions as well. On our first MSC cruise when meeting our cabin steward on hearing our accent she said "oh , you'll want facecloths " and she scooted off to get them . We are British , yes I possess some face cloths, do I use them ? Mmmmmm short answer , No. Make up remover and wipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare laudergayle Posted May 24, 2023 #49 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) On 5/22/2023 at 3:58 PM, NCteacherlovescruising said: washrags. Yes, you are from the south US. 😊 No offense, honestly, my DH calls them washrags. However, I’m from the Midwest ((Ohio) and they’re known as wash clothes. Evidently, if you’re from some European countries, they’re “flannels” All the ssme…many of us (women especially) like to have cloths to cleanse our face with prior to sleeping each night. Edited May 24, 2023 by laudergayle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmas gran Posted May 24, 2023 #50 Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) Let's try and sort the difference ---we in the UK (I generalize) use make up removing cloths or pads bought from a supermarket/pharmacy specifically for the job usually in packs of 25 cloths, I would not dream of leaving removed make up on a face cloth wash rag or whatever you call it.. Eye make up is removed in the same way if necessary with eye make up remover pads.. Make up removed we can wash, moisturize whatever we wish to do. . Edited May 24, 2023 by emmas gran add 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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