regan3 Posted August 8, 2023 #1 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I saw on a post that Nieuw Amsterdam would be in dry dock December 2023. What typically improvements are made during dry dock? Any chance Club Orange Dining room would be added? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheWASide Posted August 8, 2023 #2 Share Posted August 8, 2023 There's no space to add it to. On that class of ship Club Orange just has the special menus and kind of a pre-reserved area in the MDR so there's minimal to no wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted August 8, 2023 #3 Share Posted August 8, 2023 She is only drydocking for a fortnight, completing the 3rd Special Survey. Not sufficient time for any major capital projects. In addition to the required regulatory inspections, expect painting and other maintenance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAKcruiser Posted August 8, 2023 #4 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I don't think the Nieuw Amsterdam has had a drydock in over five years. We were on the ship almost a year ago and there seemed to be a number of issues that needed to be fixed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted August 8, 2023 #5 Share Posted August 8, 2023 1 hour ago, KAKcruiser said: I don't think the Nieuw Amsterdam has had a drydock in over five years. We were on the ship almost a year ago and there seemed to be a number of issues that needed to be fixed. Other than Covid issues/delays, HAL gets their ships into drydock about every 30 months, exceeding the requirements. I am sure HAL has met its required every 5 year dry dock. If not, I am sure there are insurance, liability and regulatory issues. Edit....the last drydock was late 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAKcruiser Posted August 8, 2023 #6 Share Posted August 8, 2023 So, are you agreeing with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted August 8, 2023 #7 Share Posted August 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, KAKcruiser said: So, are you agreeing with me? Yes...adding in Covid issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted August 8, 2023 #8 Share Posted August 8, 2023 3 hours ago, KAKcruiser said: I don't think the Nieuw Amsterdam has had a drydock in over five years. We were on the ship almost a year ago and there seemed to be a number of issues that needed to be fixed. Previous drydocking was December 2017, so she was due in December 2022. Most unusual for Class to provide a 12-month extension, any extensions are often up to 3-months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted August 8, 2023 #9 Share Posted August 8, 2023 2 hours ago, CruiserBruce said: Other than Covid issues/delays, HAL gets their ships into drydock about every 30 months, exceeding the requirements. I am sure HAL has met its required every 5 year dry dock. If not, I am sure there are insurance, liability and regulatory issues. Edit....the last drydock was late 2017. Drydocking a ship every 30-months isn't exceeding the requirements, as SOLAS requirements are 2 drydockings every 5 yrs. Some newer tonnage, subject to Class approval may be approved for Extended Drydocking of up to 7.5 yrs, normally 5-yrs for pax vessels. However, they require In-Water Surveys (IWS) in lieu of the the mandatory drydocking. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwj Posted August 9, 2023 #10 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) NA had a short drydock in Feb 2020 to repair an azipod. This probably accounts for why it has been six years since the last full drydock. Edited August 9, 2023 by mwj Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted August 9, 2023 #11 Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 hours ago, mwj said: NA had a short drydock in Feb 2020 to repair an azipod. This probably accounts for why it has been six years since the last full drydock. Since the requirement is 2 ev 5 years, she would still be a year late. I've taken my ships for a few emergency dockings over the years and never received credit for delaying the next scheduled docking. Taking the ship in early for 1 docking doesn't automatically extend the next one. HAL must have requested an extension from Class, who may have considered the 2020 docking and in approving the request, will have issued a list of requirements/inspections with the "Condition of Class". I don't recall seeing a 12-month extension, as the extensions we received were normally a maximum of 3-months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regan3 Posted August 9, 2023 Author #12 Share Posted August 9, 2023 What "other maintenance" is typically performed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted August 9, 2023 #13 Share Posted August 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, regan3 said: What "other maintenance" is typically performed? The list is almost endless, as in addition to the ship's crew and shipyard personnel, the owner brings in numerous specialised contractors. To focus on the areas accessible to pax: - Painting - the shipyard does the underwater and any areas being blasted back to near white metal. The crew will complete onboard maintenance scaling/repainting on the outer decks and touch up painting throughout the interior spaces. They may also refinish some taffrails, although that is usually ongoing. - Deck covering - general replacement and/or carpet and other flooring materials throughout the inside of the ship. Repairs to outer deck materials. - Pools & Hot-tubs - repairs, as required - Furniture - repairs to fabrics & padded materials. Renewing, as per scope of work - Cabins - electrical/plumbing/shipwright repairs & maintenance - Beds - some may be replaced - Cleaning, including the HVAC system The entire scope of work will require many hundreds of pages. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare electro Posted August 9, 2023 #14 Share Posted August 9, 2023 hopefully they will replace some of the extremely uncomfortable furniture in the lounges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Haljo1935 Posted August 10, 2023 #15 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Hey @Heidi13 appreciate the list of items potentially being addressed during a dry dock. Slightly off topic question - we were on Eurodam April 29 - May 6 this year, just a couple weeks after she came out of dry dock. Would it be normal for balconies on pax cabins to look like they were in need of attention so soon? Is this something pax should report as a maintenance request? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted August 10, 2023 #16 Share Posted August 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Haljo1935 said: Hey @Heidi13 appreciate the list of items potentially being addressed during a dry dock. Slightly off topic question - we were on Eurodam April 29 - May 6 this year, just a couple weeks after she came out of dry dock. Would it be normal for balconies on pax cabins to look like they were in need of attention so soon? Is this something pax should report as a maintenance request? That's mostly light surface rust and staining. That can easily be addressed with onboard maintenance. I would expect the cabin stewards to submit work requests for the Seamen to address. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted August 10, 2023 #17 Share Posted August 10, 2023 11 hours ago, Haljo1935 said: we were on Eurodam April 29 - May 6 this year, just a couple weeks after she came out of dry dock. Would it be normal for balconies on pax cabins to look like they were in need of attention so soon? Absolutely normal. I was once in a balcony cabin that seemed to have a lot of rust. One day the crew came through and cleaned it all up nicely. Before a week was out, you would have thought it hadn't been painted in ages. All that salt water does a number on a ship. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland Posted August 26, 2023 #18 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Does anyone know the dates for the dry dock in December 2023? I previously read that it was to have taken place in March/April 2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted August 27, 2023 #19 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Rust and salt air is a part of ship travel. That why we also get chronic complaints about "paint smells" on cruise ships too. It is a 24/7 battle, regardless of dry dock or one time fixes. Comes with the package. You can only add so many layers of paint over it, before it must be scraped down and start all over again. These are not bathtub toys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobiemom Posted August 27, 2023 #20 Share Posted August 27, 2023 On 8/26/2023 at 8:06 AM, maryland said: Does anyone know the dates for the dry dock in December 2023? I previously read that it was to have taken place in March/April 2023. 02 December 2023 – 16 December 2023 https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2947742-july-2023-update-hal-dry-docks-charters-groups-onboard/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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