Hideaway Beach at Perfect Day

[Happytime22]

Just now, OCSC Mike said:

 

You can order and pay for a shot of rum or whatever and add it yourself but not sure they can "upgrade" your mocktail to a cocktail.

whats like a shot of rum run?  (as u can see I am not a drinker but my Boys might want to)

[OCSC Mike]

2 minutes ago, Happytime22 said:

whats like a shot of rum run?  (as u can see I am not a drinker but my Boys might want to)

 

Someone else will have to answer that. I drink on cruises but I'm not one to order shots (and I actually don't pay anything, I use my Diamond vouchers).

 

Mixed drinks are mostly $14 and I believe very basic, simple drinks are more like $10... so a shot is probably $10 or so?

[Happytime22]

1 minute ago, OCSC Mike said:

 

Someone else will have to answer that. I drink on cruises but I'm not one to order shots (and I actually don't pay anything, I use my Diamond vouchers).

 

Mixed drinks are mostly $14 and I believe very basic, simple drinks are more like $10... so a shot is probably $10 or so?

so its dumb to get a mocktail in our package and simply pay for the booze then

[seasidemama]

I didn't read through this entire thread. I just have one question:  What is included in this "pass" other than access to an adult only beach?  Are there any amenities/specialty restaurants etc. similar to the beach club that you CAN'T get for free in Coco Cay proper or is the payment for a kid free beach experience and nothing else?

[OCSC Mike]

4 minutes ago, Happytime22 said:

so its dumb to get a mocktail in our package and simply pay for the booze then

 

That's for you to decide. When you order something simple like a jack n coke or vodka tonic, you're not really paying for the soda or tonic water, you're paying for the alcohol.

[OCSC Mike]

1 minute ago, seasidemama said:

I didn't read through this entire thread. I just have one question:  What is included in this "pass" other than access to an adult only beach?  Are there any amenities/specialty restaurants etc. similar to the beach club that you CAN'T get for free in Coco Cay proper or is the payment for a kid free beach experience and nothing else?

 

There's tons of info on the RC website describing what is included.

[Happytime22]

1 minute ago, OCSC Mike said:

 

That's for you to decide. When you order something simple like a jack n coke or vodka tonic, you're not really paying for the soda or tonic water, you're paying for the alcohol.

Thanks... neither my wife nor I are alcohol drinkers and the Alcohol Drink Pkg requires ALL in the cabin to buy so I was thinking of the Refreshment Pkg than just a few add ons.  Maybe best just to get no packages as the alcoholic drinks cost the same (per drink without package) even if we bought the boys the Refreshment Package. 

[OCSC Mike]

2 minutes ago, Happytime22 said:

the Alcohol Drink Pkg requires ALL in the cabin to buy

 

Not true. If you call in, a non-drinker can get the refreshment package if their cabin mate gets the DBP (deluxe beverage package) but it must be done by phone.

 

Just mentioning it though it doesn't sound like anyone is looking to drink enough to justify it.

[seasidemama]

"All adults, All party, All day" - doesn't make me feel happy to the type of clientele they are marketing to.

[Happytime22]

1 minute ago, OCSC Mike said:

 

Not true. If you call in, a non-drinker can get the refreshment package if their cabin mate gets the DBP (deluxe beverage package) but it must be done by phone.

 

Just mentioning it though it doesn't sound like anyone is looking to drink enough to justify it.

Didn't know that but the Boys might only have maybe 10 alcoholic drinks each so even just getting the alcohol pkg for them is tooooo expensive

[mramella]

Looks pretty cool! I'd book it for our March Icon cruise, however, my wife and I will have our 13 and 15 year old boys with us, so we'll have to pass. Sure hope a lot of people go to Hideaway Beach! Less crowded at the free side of CocoCay! Lol!

[mac_tlc]

46 minutes ago, seasidemama said:

"All adults, All party, All day" - doesn't make me feel happy to the type of clientele they are marketing to.

My thought exactly. Just what I was hoping for -- another blaring DJ making it impossible to talk to the person next to you. If I want that, I'll get it for free at Oasis Lagoon.

 

Lately, Royal continues to confirm to me why I have no future Royal cruises booked. 

 

 

mac_tlc

[ZoeyVictoria]

I wonder if originally it was designed to be a quiet, adult atmosphere, until they saw the popularity of Virgin Voyages?  Are they trying to attract the party crowd or appeal to those who find the Icon to be too family oriented?

[deliver42]

I thought it would be a nice relaxing area with decent pricing, not a loud party deal. Royal is doing so much, between cruise pricing, and now this that I'm off Royal. Has anyone looked at the Icon pricing, even in 2026? I don't know of any mainstream line, including the so called premium ones that even come close for a non suite. Maybe when I hit the lottery. In the meantime, Celebrity, HAL, and Princess are looking real good.

[PompeySailor]

So Icon (family orientated)

Hideaway beach (adults only)

🫘 counters didn’t think about that one much 🤯

Prices increasing daily 

Icon and perfect day - fail 

 

Are they thinking they can poach the Disney cruisers 🤔 by just making it seem like an exclusive product 

 

Royal are trying to attract a different crowd - do they risk this at the expense of their loyal and Royal 

I know they will still fill their ships and loyalty doesn’t matter (much)

Or are they trying to push the loyal crowd away from the shiny new ones, to fill up the old ladies.

 

Just thoughts, nothing more 

Edited September 15, 2023 by PompeySailor

[PompeySailor]

1 minute ago, deliver42 said:

I thought it would be a nice relaxing area with decent pricing, not a loud party deal. Royal is doing so much, between cruise pricing, and now this that I'm off Royal. Has anyone looked at the Icon pricing, even in 2026? I don't know of any mainstream line, including the so called premium ones that even come close for a non suite. Maybe when I hit the lottery. In the meantime, Celebrity, HAL, and Princess are looking real good.

I’m hearing this more and more, loyalists looking elsewhere 

Royal don’t read these boards, or do they and don’t care 🤔

[crusinthrough]

I was going to jump on this before pricing went up for a 2025 Utopia cruise but it's not offered.  😢

[DigiPro]

1 hour ago, crusinthrough said:

I was going to jump on this before pricing went up for a 2025 Utopia cruise but it's not offered.  😢

Me too!

[Kbonner]

Has Coco Cay been sold to Carnival Cruise Lines?

[Happytime22]

57 minutes ago, Kbonner said:

Has Coco Cay been sold to Carnival Cruise Lines?

Love the comment?

[LittleJoefromKokomo]

7 hours ago, PompeySailor said:

So Icon (family orientated)

Hideaway beach (adults only)

🫘 counters didn’t think about that one much 🤯

Prices increasing daily 

Icon and perfect day - fail 

 

I personally hate the adult kindergarten that the present pool is. Loud DJ that is encoruraging all the drunk people in the pool "everybody clap your hands" "everybody says: Whay Oah!"  Reminds me of children playing.BUT the pool is packed, so obviously enought people like it. I have loved South Beach since it was called Barefoot beach and is satisfied with the sea, beach and floating bar. All I need. If I want a pool party I will go to Vegas instead.

Regarding the prices, as much as I dislike the raises on everything, just look at the over water cabanas, now at almost $4000 they are still sold out. Aqua park for more than $200? still long lines in there. I think that within a year the new adults only area in Coco Cay will also be over $200.

Three weeks ago I was on the Anthem from the UK, drink package was over $100 per day if buying onboard and there was a long line of people waiting to buy on the Royal Esplanade, crazy.

Lots of people in the casino betting $8 dollar per spin on the slots.

My only conclusion is that the "recession" and harder economic times isn't visible on the cruise ships and that  (most) of those people that still cruise have lots of money to spend. Those that are more, let me say "price sensitive" will stay at home and don't cruise at all. That way those that still cruise are spending as never before, regardless of the higher prices now compared to pre covid.

 

7 hours ago, PompeySailor said:

 

Royal are trying to attract a different crowd - do they risk this at the expense of their loyal and Royal 

I know they will still fill their ships and loyalty doesn’t matter (much)

 

Just thoughts, nothing more 

 

I think that their primary market now is upper/middle class families, better have a family cruise once per year and paying $8000 for an inside on Icon than a Diamond plus that pays 1400 on an older ship and sails 4 times a year and drinks for free due to their loyalty status.

Loyalty doesn't matter much when they sell out the ships to new cruisers, I actually think that they regret the double C&A point offer they had last year, it got me and tons more from Gold to Diamond within a year, and in my case, with only on 3 cruises in an inside.

More profitable for them to have a line of new cruiser that wants to buy the drink package onboard.

So far their strategy seems to have worked, the stock price is up about 50% this year alone.

Do I like it? No, but in todays world no large corporate business seems to think more than 6 month in advance. Everything for the short time returns.

[OCSC Mike]

2 hours ago, UnregisteredUser said:

I personally hate the adult kindergarten that the present pool is. Loud DJ that is encoruraging all the drunk people in the pool "everybody clap your hands" "everybody says: Whay Oah!"

 

We sit close enough to hear the music and it's a short walk to the back of the swim up bar and I can't even hear the DJ. No adult kindergarten where we sit... and we could get much farther from the DJ if we wanted to.

 

The entire pool is just not loud at all in my experience, only right by the DJ.

[Newcruiser215]

There's a lot of fun people on this thread. 

[orville99]

13 hours ago, mac_tlc said:

Lately, Royal continues to confirm to me why I have no future Royal cruises booked. 

We tend to book cruises that avoid Coco Cay.

[OCSC Mike]

6 minutes ago, Newcruiser215 said:

There's a lot of fun people on this thread. 

 

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not, lol.