tinaincc Posted November 4, 2023 #101 Share Posted November 4, 2023 36 minutes ago, Tothesunset said: Why quote me yet not address my point? Don’t know the first thing about a tie. But I will say that it doesn’t take more effort - from packing to execution to pull off formal nights in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted November 4, 2023 #102 Share Posted November 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, tinaincc said: Don’t know the first thing about a tie. But I will say that it doesn’t take more effort - from packing to execution to pull off formal nights in my opinion. I'd agree, but sometimes I do dither in my choice of studs and cufflinks at times. 😄 "Accessorizing" is a lot easier for (most) guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted November 4, 2023 #103 Share Posted November 4, 2023 46 minutes ago, applefan75 said: You've got one heck of a crystal ball then. Silversea is doing just fine. Looking at the cruise industry as a whole – I see two widespread trends: (1) realization that the existing customer base is reaching its sell-by date so need to attract the next generations; (2) realization that the younger generations are far less formal in dress. Add to that: (3) Silversea is adding lots of new capacity, so the existing customers can't possibly fill the fleet to profitability levels (especially with RCG expecting it to do its share to pay down the massive Covid loans). Here's a short-term check on Silversea management's view of this: if the Nova dress code is applied to Ray, you can expect it on the older ships. [The expedition ships are already even less formal than Nova.] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ronrick1943 Posted November 4, 2023 #104 Share Posted November 4, 2023 24 minutes ago, Host Jazzbeau said: Looking at the cruise industry as a whole – I see two widespread trends: (1) realization that the existing customer base is reaching its sell-by date so need to attract the next generations; (2) realization that the younger generations are far less formal in dress. Add to that: (3) Silversea is adding lots of new capacity, so the existing customers can't possibly fill the fleet to profitability levels (especially with RCG expecting it to do its share to pay down the massive Covid loans). Here's a short-term check on Silversea management's view of this: if the Nova dress code is applied to Ray, you can expect it on the older ships. [The expedition ships are already even less formal than Nova.] Couldn’t agree more—I’ve been saying that for years….It’s happening……. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare david63 Posted November 4, 2023 #105 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Host Jazzbeau said: those who book for itinerary vs those who book for the shipboard experience Are they mutually exclusive? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted November 4, 2023 #106 Share Posted November 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, david63 said: Are they mutually exclusive? My thought when I read that, too. We've certainly had both concurrently in past times, and are trying to continue to do so by booking our first SS cruise. Based upon all I've read, I think we'll enjoy both on Dawn. That said, on a transoceanic cruise, the shipboard experience becomes more important than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare drron29 Posted November 5, 2023 #107 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Though in her Q&A on the Muse the CEO said that their target audience were the Boomers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ggo85 Posted November 5, 2023 Author #108 Share Posted November 5, 2023 To answer a couple of questions above. We’re in Bangkok. It’s a 5+ hour RT bus ride - plus a 5-hour tour. Anyone going into Bangkok will have a 10-11 hour day and others have afternoon tours of local attractions. Given the number of buses, I think most will be back after 6. Last night, the butlers formed a “welcome back” committee around 6 pm because so many of us returned at that time. This is day 2 of this. People are tired. DH doesn’t want to wear a dress shirt, dress pants, dress shoes and a jacket. I just want to wear (clean) Skechers, casual pants and a casual top. Not garden clothes. For us, the dress code means something- otherwise why have it? Informal for women means nice slacks, dressy blouse, nice shoes, makeup, hair and jewelry. It’s not just the dress; it’s the idea of making an effort to look nice vs look decent. It’s enjoying dressing up (which we do) vs. loathing it. It’s the attitude as much as the attire. I just don’t understand why it’s so hard to have casual night when most of the passengers come back to the ship after 6 pm for the second day in a row. Why is it so important to be informal tonight?? As I said at the outset, it’s not the dress code per se, but rather that the way it’s applied seems to lack reason or rationality. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted November 5, 2023 #109 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 hours ago, david63 said: Are they mutually exclusive? In a sense. There can always only be one Number One. I wouldn't go on Crystal (with the best food we have ever had) unless the itinerary was also very appealing. I would go on a ship with only ok food, as we did with Australis, if the itinerary is super appealing and can't be done any other way, as it is with their in-depth cruise of Cape Horn and the Chilean Fjords. I chose Silver Whisper for New Zealand because the itinerary was better than Silver Muse – knowing that we were giving up the range of specialty restaurants – and if Ponant still did the NZ itinerary they cancelled twice because of Covid, I would be on them and not Silversea. As Bob Dylan said, "You gotta serve somebody" – there is always a Number One. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanDom Posted November 9, 2023 #110 Share Posted November 9, 2023 First of all, I understand the TO that to dress up after a long tour is not that what he/she wants. we think of booking a cruise in Alaska next year but also don’t know if the dresscode will be right for us. we like to dress nice in the evening but do not like to wear the formal clothes. nice trousers with nice white shirt - ok… tie - not really and suit is always to warm. so it seemed like we will be totally underdressed ? is there a Buffett where you can have casual dinner ? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lois R Posted November 9, 2023 #111 Share Posted November 9, 2023 51 minutes ago, JanDom said: First of all, I understand the TO that to dress up after a long tour is not that what he/she wants. we think of booking a cruise in Alaska next year but also don’t know if the dresscode will be right for us. we like to dress nice in the evening but do not like to wear the formal clothes. nice trousers with nice white shirt - ok… tie - not really and suit is always to warm. so it seemed like we will be totally underdressed ? is there a Buffett where you can have casual dinner ? thanks Hi, Alaska is much more casual and no, SS does not offer a buffet for dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanDom Posted November 9, 2023 #112 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Much more casual sounds perfekt. my husband likes to wear shirt and vest together with a nice trouser - will this be ok for informal evenings ? the formal evenings we will skip or go to la terazza 👍🏽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawntrdr Posted November 9, 2023 #113 Share Posted November 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, JanDom said: Much more casual sounds perfekt. my husband likes to wear shirt and vest together with a nice trouser - will this be ok for informal evenings ? the formal evenings we will skip or go to la terazza 👍🏽 Oh yes. I have seen so many vests on men on our current Nova TA for "elegant casual" nights. It's practically a fashion statement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare david63 Posted November 9, 2023 #114 Share Posted November 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, dawntrdr said: I have seen so many vests on men on our current Nova TA for "elegant casual" nights. I do like the way in which words have a totally different meaning in different countries. On first reading that I was thinking of the English "vest" as opposed to the American - two totally different items of apparel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanDom Posted November 9, 2023 #115 Share Posted November 9, 2023 I thought and was talking about something like this …. sorry - what is the right word for that - I always have to ask the translator and I know sometimes it is not the best idea 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyjones Posted November 9, 2023 #116 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, JanDom said: I thought and was talking about something like this …. sorry - what is the right word for that - I always have to ask the translator and I know sometimes it is not the best idea 😂 Vest in US, waistcoat in UK. Vest in UK is what US calls undershirt, (or even 'wifebeater' - ugh, how I hate that term). Edited November 9, 2023 by jollyjones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanDom Posted November 9, 2023 #117 Share Posted November 9, 2023 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBP&O2/O Posted November 9, 2023 #118 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) A UK vest .... with the fashion police😁 in hot pursuit. At least he is wearing a jacket.🙄 Edited November 9, 2023 by MBP&O2/O 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted November 9, 2023 #119 Share Posted November 9, 2023 41 minutes ago, MBP&O2/O said: A UK vest .... with the fashion police😁 in hot pursuit. At least he is wearing a jacket.🙄 I think one of them has a tie and is trying to make him put it on for Formal Night. 🤣 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tothesunset Posted November 9, 2023 #120 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, MBP&O2/O said: A UK vest .... with the fashion police😁 in hot pursuit. At least he is wearing a jacket.🙄 Brad Pitt's let himself go a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCPIV Posted November 9, 2023 #121 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) Cheers! Edited November 9, 2023 by DCPIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
difranco Posted November 9, 2023 #122 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Nice to see Rab C Nesbitt alive and kicking. He was at the pool bar on our last cruise mopping up the Scotch. Later seen dining in Atlantide on formal night with Father Ted, Father Jack and Dougal. None were wearing a jacket or tie. Maître d' did try to intervene but Father Jack had a word in his ear and that was that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted November 9, 2023 #123 Share Posted November 9, 2023 52 minutes ago, difranco said: Nice to see Rab C Nesbitt alive and kicking. He was at the pool bar on our last cruise mopping up the Scotch. Later seen dining in Atlantide on formal night with Father Ted, Father Jack and Dougal. None were wearing a jacket or tie. Maître d' did try to intervene but Father Jack had a word in his ear and that was that. And what did he whisper? "Women's knickers"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
difranco Posted November 9, 2023 #124 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Drink, Fe*k ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanDom Posted November 10, 2023 #125 Share Posted November 10, 2023 So on formal nights you can make a reservation in la terazza and do not have so wear formal, is this correct ? (we then wear vest and blouse for the women ☺️) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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