Casino Royal "players club"

[TrojanUSC]

There were two discount codes listed in our email confirmation. One being "Casino Royale" for $906 and the other "Casino Slots" for $1236.

Anybody else have similar experiences?

 

Yes, I sail pretty often. It's a bit complicated from a revenue perspective but I the Casino Royale discount code is a standard discount that any Casino Royale member can get when you call up to book. The "Casino Slots" code is whatever the casino department itself is going to pay for, based on your current offers and previous play. There is also a "Casino Tables" line item if you're a table player.

 

Essentially the revenue department assigns a price for a cabin. That cabin must be paid in full, either by the passenger or out of a different department's budget. For comped casino players, this is done via applying a standard discount to the room then whatever comp value they feel you're worth. Ideally this will even out to zero (except taxes, which they won't comp). If not, you simply pay the difference.

[hydro_g_13]

Ideally this will even out to zero (except taxes, which they won't comp). If not, you simply pay the difference.

 

My wife and my fare were evened out to zero, and my two children's fares were discounted as well. My question is, why would they say that the comp certificate is only worth $500 or only valid for certain cruises? They clearly gave me way more than it was worth. Absolutely no complaints here, but just a little confusing.

[RFerrington]

My wife and my fare were evened out to zero, and my two children's fares were discounted as well. My question is, why would they say that the comp certificate is only worth $500 or only valid for certain cruises? They clearly gave me way more than it was worth. Absolutely no complaints here, but just a little confusing.

 

As stated above, the actual revenue on these things is voodoo which nobody but the bean counters truly understand. It looks to me as if you were given a casino discount in lieu of your $500 FCC.

 

If you are a member of Club Royale (did they give you paperwork to sign before you left the ship ?) you will be eligible for the casino rate on ANY cruise that has a casino rate. Most sailings have such a discount, but some do not (they were not discounting Harmony in the very beginning but do, now).

 

It isn't unusual to receive BOTH the Club Royale discount rate AND the value of your FCC certificate. That happened for us on our upcoming Freedom sailing. The FCC ($1000) did not come off the price of the cruise but we are receiving $1000 OBC for the value of the certificate. We also received a rather standard 46% discount on the price of the cruise, itself.

 

Club Royale is a funny (and I don't mean ha ha) entity. It does a HORRIBLE job of promoting itself and you have to read these boards and other research to really figure out what the benefits are. I've really never seen anything like it. The "new" program is still completely elusive. Nobody knows when it's going to be making its debut nor what the "rules" (if there are any) are going to be.

[hydro_g_13]

No. Was never presented with or asked to sign any paperwork. Only presented with the cruise certificate.

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[TrojanUSC]

My wife and my fare were evened out to zero, and my two children's fares were discounted as well. My question is, why would they say that the comp certificate is only worth $500 or only valid for certain cruises? They clearly gave me way more than it was worth. Absolutely no complaints here, but just a little confusing.

 

Right. What you're missing is that nearly every Casino Royale enrolled player, I think, gets those certificates. They don't have much value. When you called in, they reviewed your play from the previous sailing and determined you had more "value" than the standard discount + $500 offer. In my case, they always hand me those $500 coupons at the end but I just disregard them. When I call in they usually offer me suites which are worth thousands of dollars more, based on my play.

[RFerrington]

No. Was never presented with or asked to sign any paperwork. Only presented with the cruise certificate.

 

If you did not sign any paperwork then you are probably not a member of Club Royale...which means you probably would not be able to take advantage of the standard cruise discount rate for CR members.

 

If you are interested in being a member of Club Royale, I recommend that the next time you are on a Royal Caribbean cruise, you go to the Casino host/hostess and let them know that you are interested in being "rated" and becoming a member. They will more closely monitor your play when they know you are interested in becoming a member or when they are interested in asking you to join.

 

Unfortunately, if you are a table player, it is a very subjective kind of evaluation. It is not nearly as easy to quantify a table player's play level as it is to quantify a slots player. With slots you either meet the points minimum or you don't. Even though they use a points system for the table players too, it is dependent upon the dealers to correctly and consistently enter your information into the tracking system which doesn't always happen.

 

Good luck !!

[TrojanUSC]

 

Unfortunately, if you are a table player, it is a very subjective kind of evaluation. It is not nearly as easy to quantify a table player's play level as it is to quantify a slots player. With slots you either meet the points minimum or you don't. Even though they use a points system for the table players too, it is dependent upon the dealers to correctly and consistently enter your information into the tracking system which doesn't always happen.

 

 

This isn't exactly true. They're looking for your theoretical loss of a certain amount per cruise. Generally its the house edge of the game figured into the time played and average bet. The pit supervisor tracks your play when you sit down until you leave. Unfortunately it's not an exact science but its generally pretty accurate, unless you wildly press your bets. Depending on your level of play you could hit this theoretical loss in one night or over the course of the cruise. Obviously exceptions can be made by actual loss (i.e. if you play for ten minutes and lose $50k or something).

 

The best bet is to talk to the casino host to get a guideline of where you stand.

[George C]

I was on Liberty 2 weeks ago and wanted to book 2 cruises for 2017, I had 3 cruises in mind needed to double check prices for a GS. RCCL rep had computer problems but called a fellow person and I was quoted a great rate for Allure, I told him to book it and he said he would send details to our suite next day. 24 hours later he called and said rate was 800 more, he told us he mistakenly had given us the Casino Royale rate, that's a big discount. I still waiting to hear since I complained to RCCL about this

[Denversail]

I was told today that if you sailed after the 15th of March that for now the ship is no longer reporting your play to Casino Royale.

 

 

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[PompeySailor]

This isn't exactly true. They're looking for your theoretical loss of a certain amount per cruise. Generally its the house edge of the game figured into the time played and average bet. The pit supervisor tracks your play when you sit down until you leave. Unfortunately it's not an exact science but its generally pretty accurate, unless you wildly press your bets. Depending on your level of play you could hit this theoretical loss in one night or over the course of the cruise. Obviously exceptions can be made by actual loss (i.e. if you play for ten minutes and lose $50k or something).

 

The best bet is to talk to the casino host to get a guideline of where you stand.

 

Actually they are looking at your Win/loss multiplied by time and minimum bet.

For example CR VIP requires a minimum bet of $50 per hand on Blackjack over a period of 4hrs to even entertain you to become a CR VIP member.

This has been the case for the past 15 years working with the old program.

 

With the new program it has been reported players even non members getting $500 and $750 FCC for basically dropping $100 on roulette and a few hundred buck on slots.

 

If you truly want to be tracked and rated properly at tables, hand over your players card, or your Seapass card.

Bet the minimum, keep tabs on your time played, and check in with the casino host every evening to see how well they are rating you relative to what you have been doing.

 

Best of luck

Typically room discounts for CR VIP members ranges from 18% to 60%, all subject to your bankroll.

We got 60% off a Royal Suite recently :)

 

Happy Days!

Edited May 16, 2016 by PompeySailor

[Denversail]

Actually they are looking at your Win/loss multiplied by time and minimum bet.

For example CR VIP requires a minimum bet of $50 per hand on Blackjack over a period of 4hrs to even entertain you to become a CR VIP member.

This has been the case for the past 15 years working with the old program.

 

With the new program it has been reported players even non members getting $500 and $750 FCC for basically dropping $100 on roulette and a few hundred buck on slots.

 

If you truly want to be tracked and rated properly at tables, hand over your players card, or your Seapass card.

Bet the minimum, keep tabs on your time played, and check in with the casino host every evening to see how well they are rating you relative to what you have been doing.

 

Best of luck

Typically room discounts for CR VIP members ranges from 18% to 60%, all subject to your bankroll.

We got 60% off a Royal Suite recently :)

 

Happy Days!

 

Actually I've been told that every member gets the same casino rate. Some cruises have a different casino rate (%off). Now having said that they do add credits sometimes which I agree are probably based more on your play. Those appear on a different line on your reservation marked with a code labeled slots or tables. The second item appears to be at Royale's discretion the first one is not adjustable... they are combinable though :)

[PompeySailor]

Actually I've been told that every member gets the same casino rate. Some cruises have a different casino rate (%off). Now having said that they do add credits sometimes which I agree are probably based more on your play. Those appear on a different line on your reservation marked with a code labeled slots or tables. The second item appears to be at Royale's discretion the first one is not adjustable... they are combinable though :)

 

Here are codes we had applied to a future booking, one item was mine, the others my wife's.

These were separate from the 60% CR rate discount on our booking

YHP5-CASINO SLOTS $1000.00

YHP6-CASINO TABLES $1500.00

 

So for example Full Rate for a cabin $10,000.00

60% off

$2500 off

We pay $1500, not sure that is common across the board.

IOE we have booked through CR for 15 years, so with one exception have always

Got very deep discounted rates.

 

With friends who we communicate with off the boards who are very well informed and long standing CR VIP members, they will vouch that the %s are not the same for all.

You are correct it is bankroll specific.

 

You are correct :)it varies from ship to sailings, this will be relative to "Peak" cruises and how many cabins CR have been allocated.

I know of a CR member who basically has been and is sailing pretty much free using FCC and deep discounted CR rates :)

 

And from experience I had one booking that was $1 cheaper booking through CR, so that highlighted to me %s differ for Peak sailings.:(

 

Maybe for the elusive New Program, new members will have a structured tier level with transparent rewards that is common to all, that we have been waiting to see rolled out for over 15months to no avail.

 

The FCC $$ amounts, we have been using to reduce balances on future cruises.

Most will concur these are and have been honored as nobody at CR knows any different.

 

Until the New program is officially released, we will continue to see variants from

the norm as to what some are able to get and how they are able to use their FCC's

 

Lack of transparency has already resulted in many I know reaching a certain point level, getting free cruise and gambling no more, there is no longer any incentive to go above 3600 REAL points.

 

Happy Days!

[coops]

My husband and I both receive the free cruise or 500 off . It was in email and also regular mail from Casino Royale. So does that mean I am in the invite group? I never signed anything.

Or is Casino Royale for everyone? Thanks

[PompeySailor]

My husband and I both receive the free cruise or 500 off . It was in email and also regular mail from Casino Royale. So does that mean I am in the invite group? I never signed anything.

Or is Casino Royale for everyone? Thanks

 

Do you have a CR VIP membership number?

It is by invitation only (that's how it has been) new program may differ from the old program rules:)

 

if on any of the email correspondence you see a players #, then at some point you will have been invited to join.

 

Reports are that even non members are now receiving FCC,s

Part of the New program that no one has any clue about ;)

[coops]

Thanks ,

I just called them and they said they are doing away with giving numbers and that

my dh and I are on the Casino Royale and that I don't have to sign anything.

They are in process of changing stuff. So we shall see . Thanks again.

[PompeySailor]

Thanks ,

I just called them and they said they are doing away with giving numbers and that

my dh and I are on the Casino Royale and that I don't have to sign anything.

They are in process of changing stuff. So we shall see . Thanks again.

 

That's interesting information doing away with giving out numbers:eek:

 

Phone call to CR this evening will be in order

Nice to see if true, how they are treating their loyal long serving bankrolls:)

 

Will report back on if my 15 year membership number has been revoked:cool:

 

Any regulars want to chime in on this membership topic

I have a friend sailing currently, will ask them to speak to host onboard to get some more info on membership numbers

 

Thanks for the heads up:)

[coops]

That's interesting information doing away with giving out numbers:eek:

 

Phone call to CR this evening will be in order

Nice to see if true, how they are treating their loyal long serving bankrolls:)

 

Will report back on if my 15 year membership number has been revoked:cool:

 

Any regulars want to chime in on this membership topic

I have a friend sailing currently, will ask them to speak to host onboard to get some more info on membership numbers

 

Thanks for the heads up:)

I was surprised to get emails and offer for free cruise as last year was the first time we came back to Royal since 2005.

Granted I really did spend alot of time in the casino. Keep me posted if you get a

different answer. Thanks

[Spurschick]

Actually I've been told that every member gets the same casino rate. Some cruises have a different casino rate (%off). Now having said that they do add credits sometimes which I agree are probably based more on your play. Those appear on a different line on your reservation marked with a code labeled slots or tables. The second item appears to be at Royale's discretion the first one is not adjustable... they are combinable though :)

 

I had a room priced up under me - they gave me my rate. They then priced up under DH his rate was less. That was the standard rate before rebates applied as we both had rebates due.so discounts are individual specific, or at least they were when I made my last booking and that was after March 15th:D

[Spurschick]

Thanks ,

I just called them and they said they are doing away with giving numbers and that

my dh and I are on the Casino Royale and that I don't have to sign anything.

They are in process of changing stuff. So we shall see . Thanks again.

 

On my recent sailing the casino host advised me that until the new program is ironed out they are not enrolling any new members. That doesn't necessarily mean that new high rollers won't get some sort of incentive to return, but that they are not giving out new numbers. I guess they will probably track those people by name and sailing date:confused:

[PompeySailor]

I was surprised to get emails and offer for free cruise as last year was the first time we came back to Royal since 2005.

Granted I really did spend alot of time in the casino. Keep me posted if you get a

different answer. Thanks

 

 

Your information is gospel, just received confirmation from CR and a friend who had a nice chat with someone:)

No more CR VIP numbers for new casino players.

[RFerrington]

Your information is gospel, just received confirmation from CR and a friend who had a nice chat with someone:)

No more CR VIP numbers for new casino players.

 

I had heard this as well. No new numbers...they will track you by your C&A number.

[coops]

Your information is gospel, just received confirmation from CR and a friend who had a nice chat with someone:)

No more CR VIP numbers for new casino players.

 

Thanks PompeySailor glad to know .

[colerosebud]

Casino Royale - I just got off the Vision transatlantic. They had a sign posted that if you reached 2400 points in slot play you would receive a free cruise. I earned that and had no problem receiving the certificate for a free cruise. Not sure how the 2400 points converts to how much gambled. I played slots most of the time.

[PompeySailor]

Casino Royale - I just got off the Vision transatlantic. They had a sign posted that if you reached 2400 points in slot play you would receive a free cruise. I earned that and had no problem receiving the certificate for a free cruise. Not sure how the 2400 points converts to how much gambled. I played slots most of the time.

 

It used to be $100 for every 400 points

2400 equates to $600.00 (FCC)

 

On slots 1 point is for every $5 spent (win/loss)

So if still the way it is calculated 2400 points equates to $12,000 spend (win/loss)

 

Happy Days!