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Everything posted by Toofarfromthesea

  1. Sure, let's judge these companies by how they reacted to a situation no one has faced for over 100 years. And don't shop, in the future, at any supermarket that ran out of toilet paper.
  2. Depends on how things play out, with the 2 likeliest outcomes being lots of choices or no choices at all. No one knows - we are all guessing.
  3. When we discuss government actions it sure would be helpful if folks would identify what country they are from in their profile. Like in the above message saying "So let's see what measures the government will take to support businesses". What government? If US it just takes a little research to see what the government is doing to support business since we just passed a 2 trillion dollar relief bill. If a different country, then that government may or may be doing anything. But talking about what non-specific 'government' is doing in a general sense isn't very useful.
  4. Sounds like governmental piracy was thwarted.
  5. This is why the antibody tests coming on line are so critical, and potential gamechangers. If Dr. Fauci is right, they will allow us to identify people who have already had the virus and are now immune and not shedding active viruses. These people can safely re-enter non-social-distanced society and start getting the economy moving at a better pace without risk to themselves or others. I hope he is right, as this would allow us to begin partially re-activating the economy. A vaccine would be nice, and is still needed, but unless its effectiveness is VASTLY higher than flu vaccines it won't be a panacea.
  6. I'll go with Dr. Fauci. "Having identifiable coronavirus antibodies in your bloodstream also means you've probably built up immunity. In an interview last week, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said he was confident that recovered coronavirus patients would be immune. Fauci said he'd be "willing to bet anything that people who recover are really protected against reinfection." That's why identifying people who had the virus and recovered is imperative in the fight against the outbreak — those people could return to work or school safely while others remain isolated." https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-antibody-blood-test-covid-19-2020-3
  7. This illustrates the built in bureaucratic bias against action. We can measure the number of people who die or are damaged by a drug that turns out bad. But we can NEVER get a measure of the numbers of people who die or are damaged because drugs that could have saved them are tied up in red tape. So the bureaucracy can never be blamed for the inaction deaths, which is a very heavy weight on the inaction side of the scale. A case of ignorance being bliss, for the bureaucracy, and potential tragedy for the afflicted. And even so, those trials are no panacea. The active ingredient in the popular acid reflux drug Zantac went through those trials yet was, after years of use, just pulled because it was found to contain a chemical that is a suspected carcinogen. There are no certainties to life other than the fact that each one of us will eventually die.
  8. Do you expect the Chinese virus vaccine to be 100% effective? While this is not the flu, we know a lot more about the flu and that vaccine. "According to data from the U.S. Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness Network on 4,112 children and adults with acute respiratory illness during October 23, 2019–January 25, 2020, the overall estimated effectiveness of seasonal influenza vaccine for preventing medically attended, laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infection was 45%." https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6907a1.htm
  9. That sounds like a very strange wish, since Sweden has had about 24 deaths per million residents and the US has had about 15 deaths per million residents. https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geographical-distribution-2019-ncov-cases Sweden's population is about 10 million and US population is about 325 million. Do the math.
  10. Did you see the crowds in NYC just a couple of days ago, gathering to welcome the naval hospital ship? Any plan to deal with this crisis that doesn't take into account human stupidity is doomed. Oh well, at least no one tried to destroy the hospital ship by driving a train into it like on the West Coast.
  11. Please the article and stop spreading misinformation. This is the antibody test. It is completely different than the active disease tests they have been doing and they measure something else.
  12. Yup, cutting off travel from China doesn't seem so racist now, does it.
  13. Of course. This has been talked about for some time, and they are in testing. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200327/researchers-develop-covid-19-antibody-test
  14. I've sailed in YC on both, and from my experience the only advantage Meraviglia YC has over Divina YC is the location of the YC restaurant. In every other respect I found the food and the service far superior in Divina's YC.
  15. Maybe. But the relief bill that just passed will give the cruiselines nothing since they chose to NOT be American companies, a decision the cruiselines made that has saved them a lot in taxes over the years but which may prove, in the end, economically fatal.
  16. It may end up being moot, because it is not at all clear to me that the industry can ride this out without outside help, and from what I am reading about the relief bill, no US help will be forthcoming to non-American companies. That's the thing about strategic domiciling to avoid taxes. Those strategic domiciles aren't going to bail out the cruise companies if they get in trouble. And the US taxpayers apparently are not going to be bailing out foreign corporations. US-based employees will get the individual benefits provided by the bill, but no institutional help for most of the cruiselines.
  17. But if you get infected with the Wuhan virus that non-contagious cough is still a spreader of the virus to others.
  18. Funny how we bounce from total numbers to per capita numbers, according to which puts the US in a worse light. The magic power of this virus is how it reveals to us who the awful people are, and just how awful they are.
  19. And on the culinary side: https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/03/20/this-is-great-lockdown-thread-on-how-to-make-totwaffles-is-the-thread-you-had-no-idea-you-needed-but-you-totally-do/
  20. https://pagesix.com/2020/03/19/anthony-hopkins-plays-piano-for-cat-while-at-home-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/
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