Koningsdam Norway Review

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#41
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Originally posted by cbr663
LOWS: No surprise, as it has been mentioned before, the entertainment on board is disappointing. The shows in the World Stage did not really make use of the stage. One night was a juggler, another a singer, another night a BBC movie, another a dance group, and another a variety show featuring the juggler and singer.

The BB Kings were disappointing. Most nights the back ground music over powered the voices and the song choices didn't excite.
Thank you for your review. We will be sailing this boat next month as well in Norway. Quick question: is the World Stage the main theater for the ship? The reason I am asking is because I looked at Holland's website and it says there is a "Main Stage Show Lounge". Are these theaters the same thing or different? Sorry, I am just a bit confused.
#42
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AEGBRG,

The World Stage is indeed the main show lounge, but with a slightly different setup. You have screens surrounding you for a more "immersive" experience. The lounge is also slightly smaller than on other ships, but there are 3 shows each evening.

One more thing, and this might sound trivial but is important for some of us, Maritime buffs: Koningsdam is a SHIP. A Boat is something that you can put on a ship, like a lifeboat, a sailingboat, a dinghy...��

Enjoy your Cruise!
#43
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Originally posted by AEGBRG
Thank you for your review. We will be sailing this boat next month as well in Norway. Quick question: is the World Stage the main theater for the ship? The reason I am asking is because I looked at Holland's website and it says there is a "Main Stage Show Lounge". Are these theaters the same thing or different? Sorry, I am just a bit confused.
I actually had to go and visit HAL's Entertainment link (https://www.hollandamerica.com/pageB...ertainment_btn) to see both are listed and appear to be two separate locations, but they are one in the same. We viewed the BBC's Frozen Planet on the World Stage, but for some reason, HAL refers to it as the Main Stage Show Lounge when it airs the BBC movie. It is confusing.

To add even more confusion - the Queen's Lounge and BB King's Lounge are one in the same also. When serving afternoon tea, it's the Queen's Lounge. When the BB King's play, it's the BB King's lounge.
#44
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Originally posted by cbr663
It will be good if they make changes to the e mbarkatiin process. It was one of the things that I provided feedback when we got on the ship. It was speedy, but very confusing.

We did two HAL excursions: Eidfjord Cruise & Voringsfossen Waterfall and the Mt Dalsnibba & the Eagle Road in Geiranger. If you have a fear of heights, the Mt. Dalsnibba will test your fear. It was 21 degrees at sea level and 6 degrees when we reached the top of the mountain.
We are thinking about doing those exact excursions as well with HAL. How did you like both of them? Also, as far as Mt. Dalsnibba, are you able to get off the bus at the summit to take pictures? I read on the excursion page that the bus stops at the Flydal Viewpoint for pictures, but I am hoping (or thinking) they let off people once you arrive at the summit as well?
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It sounds like a great ship.
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#46
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Originally posted by AEGBRG
We are thinking about doing those exact excursions as well with HAL. How did you like both of them? Also, as far as Mt. Dalsnibba, are you able to get off the bus at the summit to take pictures? I read on the excursion page that the bus stops at the Flydal Viewpoint for pictures, but I am hoping (or thinking) they let off people once you arrive at the summit as well?
Yes, you can get off at the summit and take pictures. Just make sure that you dress in layers as it was windy and cold when we visited. It was 21 degrees at the base and only 6 degrees at the summit.

The bus usually stops at the Flydal Viewpoint on the way down, but we were the first bus away and we stopped on the way up.

It's interesting when there are lots of buses as the road is quite narrow in places and with many, many sharp turns. Sometimes your bus will have to stop and reverse in order for two buses to pass.
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Originally posted by we're sailing away....
It sounds like a great ship.
It is a great ship. The one thing that I did miss was an height adjustable table in the cabin for dining on the balcony.
#48
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Originally posted by AEGBRG
We are thinking about doing those exact excursions as well with HAL. How did you like both of them? Also, as far as Mt. Dalsnibba, are you able to get off the bus at the summit to take pictures? I read on the excursion page that the bus stops at the Flydal Viewpoint for pictures, but I am hoping (or thinking) they let off people once you arrive at the summit as well?
We did 2 excursions with HAL. The best by far was Mt Dalsnibba & the Eagle Road. Excellent guide a great sights, wonderful pace. The driving aournd hair pin turns was half of the excursion. The views were just amazing.

The most shameful was the Voringsoffsen Waterfall and Eidfjord cruise, This 2 hour excursion was $110. It was for a 35 minute bus ride up to the Vorringsoffsen Waterfall for a 15 minute stop (along with 7 other HAL bus loads), which made the sight way over crowded. Then back on the bus for a 35 minute drive back down through the town and on to a property of a power plant to board a ferry boat(not a sightseeing boat). The ferry boat ride was adverstized at 1 hour, but it was 30 minutes at bus. We were together with 4 other bus loads and if you wanted to see anything you needed to be upon the open deck in the cold wind. Of course we later learned that what we were being shown on the ferry we were about to see in 3 hour from the comfort of the Koningsdam as it sailed the FJord from Eidjford.





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#49
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It could be that the 7-day Koningsdam cruises are drawing a lot of first-time HAL cruisers.

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Originally posted by cbr663
just off the 7- day Norway cruise and wanted to provide a quick review.....

The Mariner Lunch was disappointing. Attendance was poor and there was little choice offered.

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Originally posted by cbr663
Yes, you can get off at the summit and take pictures. Just make sure that you dress in layers as it was windy and cold when we visited. It was 21 degrees at the base and only 6 degrees at the summit.

The bus usually stops at the Flydal Viewpoint on the way down, but we were the first bus away and we stopped on the way up.

It's interesting when there are lots of buses as the road is quite narrow in places and with many, many sharp turns. Sometimes your bus will have to stop and reverse in order for two buses to pass.
Thanks for the heads up. We are definitely prepared for anything and everything for this trip. Are those temperatures in fahrenheit or celsius? Also, when were you there? We will be there in early August so I would think the temperatures will be significantly warmer (at least at the base).


Originally posted by gentlemancruiser
We did 2 excursions with HAL. The best by far was Mt Dalsnibba & the Eagle Road. Excellent guide a great sights, wonderful pace. The driving aournd hair pin turns was half of the excursion. The views were just amazing.

The most shameful was the Voringsoffsen Waterfall and Eidfjord cruise, This 2 hour excursion was $110. It was for a 35 minute bus ride up to the Vorringsoffsen Waterfall for a 15 minute stop (along with 7 other HAL bus loads), which made the sight way over crowded. Then back on the bus for a 35 minute drive back down through the town and on to a property of a power plant to board a ferry boat(not a sightseeing boat). The ferry boat ride was adverstized at 1 hour, but it was 30 minutes at bus. We were together with 4 other bus loads and if you wanted to see anything you needed to be upon the open deck in the cold wind. Of course we later learned that what we were being shown on the ferry we were about to see in 3 hour from the comfort of the Koningsdam as it sailed the FJord from Eidjford.
Thanks for the info! The problem with Eidjford port is either do an excursion or opt for basically nothing since there is not much to see at the port itself. Might do the "waterfalls and waffle" excursion instead (not that will be much better). Did you do the the Flam Railway on your trip? I am pretty ticked because I am going to have to likely purchase this through HA at their outrageous price since the cruise booked all the available times (visitflam.com is all booked for the times that we will be there that day). Also, do you know of anyone who did the Troll Path excursion at Alesund and what they thought of it? This excursion may be too hard to pass up, albeit super expensive.
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Originally posted by AEGBRG
Thanks for the heads up. We are definitely prepared for anything and everything for this trip. Are those temperatures in fahrenheit or celsius? Also, when were you there? We will be there in early August so I would think the temperatures will be significantly warmer (at least at the base).
We were just there in early June. Temps are in Celsius and there was still lots of snow at the top of the mountain.
#52
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Hi,

Thank you for your review.

Since I am on Koningsdam in roughly 7 weeks, I'd like to know something about the food onboard:
-Do the MDR dining menus feature some "regional" dishes? On Alaska cruises, there's "Ketchikan clowder" or "Alaska crab legs", maybe when cruising to Norway there's some norwegian themed dishes?
-Food at Grand Dutch Café is still for free?
-After 02:00 pm there's "selected stations" available at Lido buffet - do you know, which ones?
-Tea time is still offered?

Sorry that's a couple of questions, I hope you can answer some of them.
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#53
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Originally posted by shipfriend_max
Hi,

Thank you for your review.

Since I am on Koningsdam in roughly 7 weeks, I'd like to know something about the food onboard:
-Do the MDR dining menus feature some "regional" dishes? On Alaska cruises, there's "Ketchikan clowder" or "Alaska crab legs", maybe when cruising to Norway there's some norwegian themed dishes?
-Food at Grand Dutch Café is still for free?
-After 02:00 pm there's "selected stations" available at Lido buffet - do you know, which ones?
-Tea time is still offered?

Sorry that's a couple of questions, I hope you can answer some of them.
I didn't notice that the MDR offered any regional dishes. I did notice that the food quality and service in the MDR far surpassed any of our previous MDR experiences.

Food at the Grand Dutch cafe is free. We didn't order anything there as the venue was extremely busy and I found the choice of colours on the menu board difficult to read. I am also not familiar with Dutch foods and I do wish I had spent more time researching this prior to sailing.


We didn't visit the Lido after 2:00 pm so I have no idea what is available.

Tea is available in the Queens Lounge in the afternoon.
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Originally posted by cbr663
I didn't notice that the MDR offered any regional dishes. I did notice that the food quality and service in the MDR far surpassed any of our previous MDR experiences.

Food at the Grand Dutch cafe is free. We didn't order anything there as the venue was extremely busy and I found the choice of colours on the menu board difficult to read. I am also not familiar with Dutch foods and I do wish I had spent more time researching this prior to sailing.


We didn't visit the Lido after 2:00 pm so I have no idea what is available.

Tea is available in the Queens Lounge in the afternoon.
Fine, thank you so much!!
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#55
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Originally posted by cbr663
just off the 7- day Norway cruise and wanted to provide a quick review.

HIGHS:
The ship is beautiful. All shiny and relatively new ( she just recently turned 1), K is in excellent condition. We sailed in a Vista Suite and were very happy with the size of the cabin.

Food was outstanding and a noticeable improvement over previous cruises. We especially enjoyed the MDR on this cruise, a dining venue that we normally bypass. All our meals in the MDR were served hot and perfectly seasoned. Service ranged from outstanding to okay in the MDR. We had Open Dining and sat at a different table each meal.

Tamarind was divine. We have always felt that Tamarind sets the bar for HAL, and this time the bar was set quite high. The service was warm and welcoming and the food delicious. I especially enjoyed the lobster.

The PG was also exceptional. Gone are those pretentious white server coats replaced with blue shirts and black vests. We enjoyed the double cut pork chop and halibut and it was delicious.

We made use of the Lido for lunch and several breakfasts. A little crowded are times, we did find lots of offerings and lots of staff to help you at your table.

Cabin service. We had an excellent cabin service team who always had our cabin clean and tidied whenever we returned. While there is still a clean up in the evening, turn down service has been eliminated.

LOWS:

No surprise, as it has been mentioned before, the entertainment on board is disappointing. The shows in the World Stage did not really make use of the stage. One night was a juggler, another a singer, another night a BBC movie, another a dance group, and another a variety show featuring the juggler and singer.

The BB Kings were disappointing. Most nights the back ground music over powered the voices and the song choices didn't excite.

The casino was rarely busy. The Lincoln Centre Stage was all classical music that you either love it or leave it. We left it.

The Mariner Lunch was disappointing. Attendance was poor and there was little choice offered.

Food in the Lido was often served lukewarm - a no no for me. We also tried several desserts that were labelled as sugar free but were terribly sweet. Perhaps a sugar substitute was used, but as it wasn't clear, and we had no choice but to discard it.

In cabin dining is very difficult. There is no adjustable table as were offered on other ships which made it impossible for us to enjoy our hot breakfast on our balcony. The loss of this amenity means the NA continues her reign as our favourite ship.

Embarkation in Amsterdam was confusing. The most annoying was when we climbed the top of the stairs to find large numbers of people sitting in groups, labelled 10, 11, 12 and lots of people wandering around confused. A video screen at one end of this large room stated "boarding group 7". I thought the groups were waiting to board. I kept looking for the counters to check in and couldn't find them. We were going around in circles when I finally asked a HAL rep who explained that the groups were waiting to check in and handed me a ticket for Group 13. It would have been much less frustrating had the HAL reps been located right at the top of the stairs.

One thing I found concerning was discovering that the men's public washrooms have security cameras in the ceilings. Perhaps they are on other ships and I never noticed them?

Overall, a wonderful cruise with beautiful weather and lovely ports. The Captain mentioned that a third pinnacle class ship is on its way and that the pinnacle class ships will be sitting the standard for the entire line.
Hi

We'll be sailing on July 23rd-30th, and would love to know more about the ports – what were the highlights for you? Which excursions would you recommend particularly?

Thanks!
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OP- I am so surprised you found the B.B. Kings band disappointing, we boarded the Koningsdam for the cruise after you, and thought they were fantastic. They had really good attendance as well, I guess music is personal taste, but we loved them
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#57
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Originally posted by debsjc
OP- I am so surprised you found the B.B. Kings band disappointing, we boarded the Koningsdam for the cruise after you, and thought they were fantastic. They had really good attendance as well, I guess music is personal taste, but we loved them
It's great that you enjoyed them. We found the experience lacking the excitement that we experienced with previous HAL sailings. I had to strain at times to hear what the singers were singing. The show at times just felt like it was on auto pilot and maybe performed just a little too often.
#58
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Originally posted by ceciledion
Gentlemancruiser, I agree with your assessment of the fellow passengers, on this particular ship. Very rude, aggressive and impolite. After over 20 cruises with HAL, this was a first. Really took a bit away from the enjoyment of our cruise. It was not unnoticed by staff either.
Without further comment I agree. It is the "different" demographic"......
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#59
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Originally posted by Tennessee Titan
Without further comment I agree. It is the "different" demographic"......
After seeing the difference between my first and second cruise, I asked here http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2252021

So I think you mean "the Dutch". I'm ashamed for the behaviour of my fellow countrymen, especially the kind that seem to fill the HAL ships starting in The Netherlands.
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Originally posted by AmazedByCruising
After seeing the difference between my first and second cruise, I asked here http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2252021

So I think you mean "the Dutch". I'm ashamed for the behaviour of my fellow countrymen, especially the kind that seem to fill the HAL ships starting in The Netherlands.
Talking about 'different demographic' we found most of the Dutch people on board lovely, but also had a couple of problems.
The main one really shocked me. A man looked at me, then pulled a chair directly in front of where I was sitting on the Queens Lounge, watching B.B. Kings. I politely asked if he could move slightly back, and he put his hands on me and pushed me away. Really not a nice experience, but I think it's like with all nationalities, you get nice people, and not so nice people.
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