Flash G Posted February 11, 2013 #301 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Latest from the ship: They've had no power since sunrise. Food is available, but scarce. The toilet issue is very bad with passengers having to use buckets. And apparently the ship is listing... which has many passengers very scared. Another Carnival ship pulled alongside Triumph, and passengers were able to use their cellphones to call home. A bad situation that's going to get worse over the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted February 11, 2013 #302 Share Posted February 11, 2013 What in the world does that have to do with anything? Micky has in the past seemed more concerned about the NBA team he owns than incidents occurring on his fleets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nealstuber Posted February 11, 2013 #303 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I think it was more of a change then a cut back, take away something from the 80s add something new. I quite enjoyed the cutbacks on the dream ship....no longer just the buffet but about 6 other choices..if that's a cutback please do more. Seriously nobody died like 5 other folks on a cruise today but ohh my....Sh!t happens. Feel sorry for those on board and or booked. But please turn on nancy grace and get back to your usual program. There have been so many visible changes that have reduced headcounts and when it comes to the passenger experenice - I guess you could argue that big screen TVs instead of live entertainers on the pool deck and the lounges and smaller waitstaffs and fewerhousekeepers are just changes -not cuts. But it would not be semantics if it was discovered that ccl also "improved" its maitenace program and reduced the headcounts there too. I find it hard to believe that they would have increased the size of the engineering staff and all the new technology must require some engineering support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedom1114 Posted February 11, 2013 #304 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Unbelievable. The first two incidents could have been flukes, but after Splendor, Concordia, and now Triumph, shame on Carnival. I refuse to sail on anything newer than Destiny if I return to Carnival. They need to take a serious look at their two year track record against the rest of the mainstream industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haoie Posted February 11, 2013 #305 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Aww I feel bad for them. As someone who missed out on sailing the Splendor 2 years back, I know the feeling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbiecruiser Posted February 11, 2013 #306 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Latest from the ship: They've had no power since sunrise. Food is available, but scarce. The toilet issue is very bad with passengers having to use buckets. And apparently the ship is listing... which has many passengers very scared. Another Carnival ship pulled alongside Triumph, and passengers were able to use their cellphones to call home. A bad situation that's going to get worse over the next few days. Yes but you have people posting on this very board that they would love to be on this ship. No one in their right mind would want to be on this ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanmarcosman Posted February 11, 2013 #307 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Kinda shocked this memo didn't start with BETCHA. Betcha wondering why we don't keep up on our preventive maintenance in our engineering plants! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted February 11, 2013 #308 Share Posted February 11, 2013 LOL. You flunk Physics. Really? And why is that? Quite basic to parallel their grids after you connect. You would need some transfer switches along with sync and protective relays of course. Also have to have the proper programming mode set up for the governor and sequencer. They use 4 power cables and a neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad455 Posted February 11, 2013 #309 Share Posted February 11, 2013 feel bad for the passengers on the Triumph right now. no power at all and basically no bathrooms. that goodness the Elation was nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
declansdad Posted February 11, 2013 #310 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Micky has in the past seemed more concerned about the NBA team he owns than incidents occurring on his fleets. Carnival is a publicly traded company, that can be taken care of if need be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted February 11, 2013 #311 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Yes but you have people posting on this very board that they would love to be on this ship. No one in their right mind would want to be on this ship. I know of a number of sane people who would love to be on that ship. :rolleyes:;):p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted February 11, 2013 #312 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Real glad no serious injuries reported. I've been wondering if the deployment of the fire suppression system and not the actual fire contributed to the loss of propulsion. Does anyone know what type of fire suppression might be deployed in a Triumph engine room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deborahjo Posted February 11, 2013 #313 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Miami knows exactly who sailed on a passport and who did not. This gives them 3 days to make arrangements for others to get on a plane in Mexico and fly them home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted February 11, 2013 #314 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Really? And why is that? Quite basic to parallel their grids after you connect. You would need some transfer switches along with sync and protective relays of course. Also have to have the proper programming mode set up for the governor and sequencer. They use 4 power cables and a neutral. Those ships are not docked, there on the ocean, and they have to keep a good distance apart from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted February 11, 2013 #315 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I know of a number of sane people who would love to be on that ship. :rolleyes:;):p Anyone who would love to be on that ship now is not sane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oklahomasunshine Posted February 11, 2013 #316 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Am I wrong in my thoughts, but wasn't the Concordia disaster the fault of the CAPTAIN? That was not CCL's fault....I might be wrong (I am super sure if I am someone will correct me).:eek: Also to whoever posted about the ship apparently listing.... may I ask where you got that information from ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted February 11, 2013 #317 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Unbelievable. The first two incidents could have been flukes, but after Splendor, Concordia, and now Triumph, shame on Carnival. I refuse to sail on anything newer than Destiny if I return to Carnival. They need to take a serious look at their two year track record against the rest of the mainstream industry. They've had fires on Ecstasy and Tropacale not to mention the fires they've had on their Princess line. Not sure if they owned Cunard back during the Norway incident. I don't think age of ship is the biggest factor here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originalmet8 Posted February 11, 2013 #318 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Seems to be a lot of speculation and very little in the way of facts. :rolleyes: I would have loved to have been on Splendor then and Triumph now. A free cruise now and a free cruise later for a little inconvenience. ;) Carnival is more than generous and typically goes far above and beyond anything required by the cruise contract. :) For 3 days with no lights cold food no hot water, i wouldnt do it even if they offered me a free world cruise on Cunard in the Queens grill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonna5 Posted February 11, 2013 #319 Share Posted February 11, 2013 They've had fires on Ecstasy and Tropacale not to mention the fires they've had on their Princess line. Not sure if they owned Cunard back during the Norway incident. I don't think age of ship is the biggest factor here. The Norway was an NCL ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedom1114 Posted February 11, 2013 #320 Share Posted February 11, 2013 They've had fires on Ecstasy and Tropacale not to mention the fires they've had on their Princess line. Not sure if they owned Cunard back during the Norway incident. I don't think age of ship is the biggest factor here. You may be correct. But bottom line, they need to make some serious adjustments. Three incidents like this in such a short time is absolutely inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbiecruiser Posted February 11, 2013 #321 Share Posted February 11, 2013 They've had fires on Ecstasy and Tropacale not to mention the fires they've had on their Princess line. Not sure if they owned Cunard back during the Norway incident. I don't think age of ship is the biggest factor here. They also had a fire on the Celebration in the mid 90's that left the ship afloat for several days before they could tow it to San Juan. Last February the Costa Allegra had an engine room fire that left the ship dead in the water and had to be towed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deborahjo Posted February 11, 2013 #322 Share Posted February 11, 2013 They've had fires on Ecstasy and Tropacale not to mention the fires they've had on their Princess line. Not sure if they owned Cunard back during the Norway incident. I don't think age of ship is the biggest factor here. We were due to sail on the Norway a month after the fire. When we heard of the fire it was scary. Glad we were not on it when it happened. I agree. Where are they seeing the ship is listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthlessBoss Posted February 11, 2013 #323 Share Posted February 11, 2013 feel bad for the passengers on the Triumph right now. no power at all and basically no bathrooms. that goodness the Elation was nearby. To use the bathroom?:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seannyice81 Posted February 11, 2013 #324 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I refuse to sail on anything newer than Destiny if I return to Carnival. I haven't read much about engine fires/propulsion issues on older Fantasy Class ships. I'm sure theres been a few problems, but most of these issues I read about are on ships built after Destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadPirateRobert Posted February 11, 2013 #325 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Lots of babies will be born 9 months from now :D No power, no AC, no showers or flushing toilets....Can't speak to your situation but I'm pretty sure my DW would not be interested in any activity that could result in babies. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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