Rare whogo Posted June 13, 2013 #1 Share Posted June 13, 2013 A Holland America representative told me they have a new air program where everybody gets to choose flights at competitive rates and no air deviation fees. A price quote was attractive. Good news, if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted June 13, 2013 #2 Share Posted June 13, 2013 And just as I'm about to become a 3*. Oh well. I hope HAL comes up with something similar to RCI/Celebrity Choice Air. Probably one of the best things about sailing with them. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare whogo Posted June 13, 2013 Author #3 Share Posted June 13, 2013 And just as I'm about to become a 3*. Oh well. Roy I guessed that it would be 12 minutes before someone mentioned the reduction in benefits for 3 and 4 star Mariners. I missed by 8 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted June 13, 2013 #4 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I guessed that it would be 12 minutes before someone mentioned the reduction in benefits for 3 and 4 star Mariners. I missed by 8 minutes. It's not a reduction in benefits when you give it to somebody else. Giving free air deviation to a newcomer doesn't detract a bit from it's benefit to me. Just wish they'd done it a bit sooner. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalex63 Posted June 13, 2013 #5 Share Posted June 13, 2013 OK, I have to ask. I have heard or seen the term "air deviation fees", but never have looked into what it means. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted June 13, 2013 #6 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Instead of letting HAL select the air line and flight times, you get to pick the air line and times -- if the air line is on HAL's list. You used to have to pay a fee. Now certain star Mariners get this fee waved. We would still not do HAL air as there are little choices from our airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvertoGold Posted June 13, 2013 #7 Share Posted June 13, 2013 It's not a reduction in benefits when you give it to somebody else. Giving free air deviation to a newcomer doesn't detract a bit from it's benefit to me. Just wish they'd done it a bit sooner. Roy It is a reduction in Mariner rewards when I go from having the deviation fee waived to having no fee for it. HAL will need to delete this reward from their 3 and 4 and 5 star lists of rewards, so it won't be a reward any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted June 13, 2013 #8 Share Posted June 13, 2013 That is good ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcd2010 Posted June 13, 2013 #9 Share Posted June 13, 2013 It is a reduction in Mariner rewards when I go from having the deviation fee waived to having no fee for it. HAL will need to delete this reward from their 3 and 4 and 5 star lists of rewards, so it won't be a reward any longer. Maybe they'll replace it with something...:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxmantoo Posted June 13, 2013 #10 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Maybe they'll replace it with something...:rolleyes: I vote for free Wi-Fi :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted June 14, 2013 #11 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I vote for free Wi-Fi :D Here, here.... We can only hope. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pms4104 Posted June 14, 2013 #12 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Maybe they'll replace it with something...:rolleyes: Perhaps with a bar of real bath soap, in addition to the fig and olive glycerine face soap and the body wash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pms4104 Posted June 14, 2013 #13 Share Posted June 14, 2013 If indeed HAL is planning to offer air with no deviation fees, I would guess that the Seattle bean counters determined that they can make more $$$ by upcharging the wholesale block of air they resell than from the deviation fees. Further, perhaps there has been a falloff in people buying HAL air and this is a way to entice people to do so. In the end, if this change did not impact the revenue stream in a positive manner, HAL would not be considering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerthornhill Posted June 14, 2013 #14 Share Posted June 14, 2013 This sounds like what Princess has been doing for a while now. Much better than HAL's program. I don't care in the least that everyone is getting what we used to receive as a 'perk'. No skin off my nose. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted June 14, 2013 #15 Share Posted June 14, 2013 It's not a reduction in benefits when you give it to somebody else. Giving free air deviation to a newcomer doesn't detract a bit from it's benefit to me. Just wish they'd done it a bit sooner. Roy I bet it ends up with the fares being a bit more expensive with this new approach, thus it really does detract from the 3-5 star benefits IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamomo Posted June 14, 2013 #16 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I bet it ends up with the fares being a bit more expensive with this new approach, thus it really does detract from the 3-5 star benefits IMO. Actually, Princess Air's fares got better, and it seems the CSRs got more creative in finding great fares, since doing away with "deviation". I have a one way fight booked on a major U.S. airline from FL to Heathrow in a few months for $420, which is fully refundable up to 45 days before the flight, through Princess. No way I could find anything near that price on my own! Maybe HAL's air will be able to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magandab Posted June 14, 2013 #17 Share Posted June 14, 2013 We got this on our upcoming cruise. However, even though you can reserve the flights you want, your price isn't locked in until your cruise is paid in full. So yes, you have your itinerary but the price can go up before final payment. FWIW, the price quoted by HAL was the same as what we found online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangeguy Posted June 15, 2013 #18 Share Posted June 15, 2013 For my upcoming TA, ChoiceAir was the deciding factor fore between RCI and NCL. I was able to find a one way flight to Barcelona for $480 with good flight times versus $600 with poor flight choices on the open market. Glad to see HAL moving in this direction! Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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