Another line bans verandah smoking

[alwaysfrantic]

Disney just announced as of 11/15 the verandahs will be non smoking. There will still be some open air spaces in publics spots where it is permitted.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Thank you for the information.

[Typhoon1]

Will HAL be next?

[startwin]

Will HAL be next?

 

 

One can only hope:)

[sppunk]

I truly don't see, for SAFETY reasons, how any line still allows it post Star Princess.

 

I speak strictly for safety, not for preferences.

[innlady1]

I truly don't see, for SAFETY reasons, how any line still allows it post Star Princess.

 

I speak strictly for safety, not for preferences.

 

That was immediately after our very first cruise...and that was on the Caribbean Princess. I will always remember that and the devastating photos.

[KirkNC]

I truly don't see, for SAFETY reasons, how any line still allows it post Star Princess.

 

I speak strictly for safety, not for preferences.

 

I agree!

[TiogaCruiser]

That was immediately after our very first cruise...and that was on the Caribbean Princess. I will always remember that and the devastating photos.

 

Was t it the Star sailing in the Carribean?

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11975460/ns/us_news-life/t/cigarette-eyed-cause-cruise-blaze/

[arewethereyet]

That's good news. I'm booking a Disney cruise for next December (2014). That "M" on my photo is for my pal Mickey.

[Scrapnana]

Cunard has also, as of next spring (different dates for different ships).

[iancal]

Smart move.

 

Smart businesses stay ahead of the customer. On this issue, HAL is well behind the curve. No surprise though.

[Charles4515]

Cunard has also, as of next spring (different dates for different ships).

 

That is better news than Disney. Besides that I won't cruise on Disney and have on Cunard, Cunard is a better predictor that HAL will be doing that too!

[Cindy]

P&O has also banned balcony smoking, beginning in March-April of next year.

I think it's inevitable that eventually smoking on ships will be limited to public areas where there can be easier monitoring for fire.

I'm kind of interested now to see who's going to be next to change their policy. The only "biggies" left that immediately come to mind are Royal Caribbean, HAL, Carnival, and Norwegian. There have been a lot of rumors about a change coming at RCI, and apparently a new policy has already gone into effect for staff and crew.

[Charles4515]

P&O has also banned balcony smoking, beginning in March-April of next year.

I think it's inevitable that eventually smoking on ships will be limited to public areas where there can be easier monitoring for fire.

I'm kind of interested now to see who's going to be next to change their policy. The only "biggies" left that immediately come to mind are Royal Caribbean, HAL, Carnival, and Norwegian. There have been a lot of rumors about a change coming at RCI, and apparently a new policy has already gone into effect for staff and crew.

 

Each additional line that bans balcony smoking puts pressure on the remaining lines to follow suit. It is only a matter of time. I can't see HAL being the last of those left. I would guess the last will be Carnival.

[kazu]

not trying to turn this into a smoking thread (which I think it already is)

 

but.....if 20% still smoke? hmmm..... someone has an opportunity..

 

I know this is an unwanted statement - but it is a fact....and I suspect verandahs would sell out early. LOL

[FRANKIEDNYC]

:p HAL claims they are changing the wine policy to be in line with most of the other cruise lines. I think it's time for them to get in line with the others on the smoking policy

[sail7seas]

not trying to turn this into a smoking thread (which I think it already is)

 

but.....if 20% still smoke? hmmm..... someone has an opportunity..

 

I know this is an unwanted statement - but it is a fact....and I suspect verandahs would sell out early. LOL

 

You have a valid point.

 

I so wish you hadn't added "LOL".

It just feels like a finger in the eyes of those who are bothered by second hand smoke... to laugh at us

over a very real health issue.

Oh well.......

 

[Charles4515]

not trying to turn this into a smoking thread (which I think it already is)

 

but.....if 20% still smoke? hmmm..... someone has an opportunity..

 

I know this is an unwanted statement - but it is a fact....and I suspect verandahs would sell out early. LOL

 

Verandas always sell out anyway.

 

My guess is that the last line left with smoking on balconies will have the most problem selling balcony cabins.....or other cabins for that matter.

 

By the way the smoking rate continues to drop. It is down to 18% this year. Only 14% in New York City.

[kazu]

You have a valid point.

 

I so wish you hadn't added "LOL".

It just feels like a finger in the eyes of those who are bothered by second hand smoke... to laugh at us

over a very real health issue.

Oh well.......

 

 

Judy if my LOL was misread that was not the intention - it was meant as a smile - anyways I haven't learned all the verbage yet obviously

 

there was no finger in the eye intended at all. it was just an observation.

 

No laughing at anyone - I am sorry if I did not express it appropriately.

 

It was just an observation I was making. And I would think some of the cruise lines are

[sail7seas]

Thanks for explaining.

I'm happy you didn't intend it to mean the way I interpreted.

 

[kazu]

Verandas always sell out anyway.

 

My guess is that the last line left with smoking on balconies will have the most problem selling balcony cabins.....or other cabins for that matter.

 

By the way the smoking rate continues to drop. It is down to 18% this year. Only 14% in New York City.

 

You are forgetting about the European market - and btw - balconies and suites do not always sell out - sorry.

 

In any case, I don't want to get into an argument and knew in hindsight I shouldn't have posted. It was just a thought. always avoid smoking threads and never, ever post. sorry to disrupt things.

[sail7seas]

Verandas always sell out anyway.

 

My guess is that the last line left with smoking on balconies will have the most problem selling balcony cabins.....or other cabins for that matter.

 

By the way the smoking rate continues to drop. It is down to 18% this year. Only 14% in New York City.

 

 

I heard the same statistic and what is encouraging is a report I heard saying the percent of new teenage smokers has dropped. That is great news.

 

Massachusetts just instituted a new tax which raises the amount of tax on cigarettes another $1.00 per PACK. They will simply tax smoking out of the reach of most. People will be forced to quit when they cannot afford to buy them. This is sin tax to a really high level.

 

[Richie2pies]

I guess I'll be forced to book on the last line to allow smoking on a balcony. If I can't book a cabin with smoking on the balcony, I'll quit cruising and go to a land vacation which still allows smoking. If and when they no longer allow smoking, I'll sit in my den or at my inground pool and smoke when I wish.

[PathfinderEss]

I heard the same statistic and what is encouraging is a report I heard saying the percent of new teenage smokers has dropped. That is great news.

 

Massachusetts just instituted a new tax which raises the amount of tax on cigarettes another $1.00 per PACK. They will simply tax smoking out of the reach of most. People will be forced to quit when they cannot afford to buy them. This is sin tax to a really high level.

 

I think your wrong Sails, people will always pay the price for their habits, just like for alcohol or any of the other drugs out there. They can and do forego other things so they can feed their habits.

[erewhon]

Will HAL be next?

 

Would be great if they are.