alwaysfrantic Posted August 13, 2013 #1 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Disney just announced as of 11/15 the verandahs will be non smoking. There will still be some open air spaces in publics spots where it is permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted August 13, 2013 #2 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Thank you for the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon1 Posted August 13, 2013 #3 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Will HAL be next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startwin Posted August 13, 2013 #4 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Will HAL be next? One can only hope:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sppunk Posted August 13, 2013 #5 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I truly don't see, for SAFETY reasons, how any line still allows it post Star Princess. I speak strictly for safety, not for preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted August 13, 2013 #6 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I truly don't see, for SAFETY reasons, how any line still allows it post Star Princess. I speak strictly for safety, not for preferences. That was immediately after our very first cruise...and that was on the Caribbean Princess. I will always remember that and the devastating photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted August 13, 2013 #7 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I truly don't see, for SAFETY reasons, how any line still allows it post Star Princess. I speak strictly for safety, not for preferences. I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted August 14, 2013 #8 Share Posted August 14, 2013 That was immediately after our very first cruise...and that was on the Caribbean Princess. I will always remember that and the devastating photos. Was t it the Star sailing in the Carribean? http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11975460/ns/us_news-life/t/cigarette-eyed-cause-cruise-blaze/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arewethereyet Posted August 14, 2013 #9 Share Posted August 14, 2013 That's good news. I'm booking a Disney cruise for next December (2014). That "M" on my photo is for my pal Mickey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Scrapnana Posted August 14, 2013 #10 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Cunard has also, as of next spring (different dates for different ships). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted August 14, 2013 #11 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Smart move. Smart businesses stay ahead of the customer. On this issue, HAL is well behind the curve. No surprise though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted August 14, 2013 #12 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Cunard has also, as of next spring (different dates for different ships). That is better news than Disney. Besides that I won't cruise on Disney and have on Cunard, Cunard is a better predictor that HAL will be doing that too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Posted August 14, 2013 #13 Share Posted August 14, 2013 P&O has also banned balcony smoking, beginning in March-April of next year. I think it's inevitable that eventually smoking on ships will be limited to public areas where there can be easier monitoring for fire. I'm kind of interested now to see who's going to be next to change their policy. The only "biggies" left that immediately come to mind are Royal Caribbean, HAL, Carnival, and Norwegian. There have been a lot of rumors about a change coming at RCI, and apparently a new policy has already gone into effect for staff and crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted August 14, 2013 #14 Share Posted August 14, 2013 P&O has also banned balcony smoking, beginning in March-April of next year. I think it's inevitable that eventually smoking on ships will be limited to public areas where there can be easier monitoring for fire. I'm kind of interested now to see who's going to be next to change their policy. The only "biggies" left that immediately come to mind are Royal Caribbean, HAL, Carnival, and Norwegian. There have been a lot of rumors about a change coming at RCI, and apparently a new policy has already gone into effect for staff and crew. Each additional line that bans balcony smoking puts pressure on the remaining lines to follow suit. It is only a matter of time. I can't see HAL being the last of those left. I would guess the last will be Carnival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted August 14, 2013 #15 Share Posted August 14, 2013 not trying to turn this into a smoking thread (which I think it already is) but.....if 20% still smoke? hmmm..... someone has an opportunity.. I know this is an unwanted statement - but it is a fact....and I suspect verandahs would sell out early. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRANKIEDNYC Posted August 14, 2013 #16 Share Posted August 14, 2013 :p HAL claims they are changing the wine policy to be in line with most of the other cruise lines. I think it's time for them to get in line with the others on the smoking policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted August 14, 2013 #17 Share Posted August 14, 2013 not trying to turn this into a smoking thread (which I think it already is) but.....if 20% still smoke? hmmm..... someone has an opportunity.. I know this is an unwanted statement - but it is a fact....and I suspect verandahs would sell out early. LOL You have a valid point. I so wish you hadn't added "LOL". It just feels like a finger in the eyes of those who are bothered by second hand smoke... to laugh at us over a very real health issue. Oh well....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted August 14, 2013 #18 Share Posted August 14, 2013 not trying to turn this into a smoking thread (which I think it already is) but.....if 20% still smoke? hmmm..... someone has an opportunity.. I know this is an unwanted statement - but it is a fact....and I suspect verandahs would sell out early. LOL Verandas always sell out anyway. My guess is that the last line left with smoking on balconies will have the most problem selling balcony cabins.....or other cabins for that matter. By the way the smoking rate continues to drop. It is down to 18% this year. Only 14% in New York City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted August 14, 2013 #19 Share Posted August 14, 2013 You have a valid point. I so wish you hadn't added "LOL". It just feels like a finger in the eyes of those who are bothered by second hand smoke... to laugh at us over a very real health issue. Oh well....... Judy if my LOL was misread that was not the intention - it was meant as a smile - anyways I haven't learned all the verbage yet obviously there was no finger in the eye intended at all. it was just an observation. No laughing at anyone - I am sorry if I did not express it appropriately. It was just an observation I was making. And I would think some of the cruise lines are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted August 14, 2013 #20 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Thanks for explaining. I'm happy you didn't intend it to mean the way I interpreted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted August 14, 2013 #21 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Verandas always sell out anyway. My guess is that the last line left with smoking on balconies will have the most problem selling balcony cabins.....or other cabins for that matter. By the way the smoking rate continues to drop. It is down to 18% this year. Only 14% in New York City. You are forgetting about the European market - and btw - balconies and suites do not always sell out - sorry. In any case, I don't want to get into an argument and knew in hindsight I shouldn't have posted. It was just a thought. always avoid smoking threads and never, ever post. sorry to disrupt things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted August 14, 2013 #22 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Verandas always sell out anyway. My guess is that the last line left with smoking on balconies will have the most problem selling balcony cabins.....or other cabins for that matter. By the way the smoking rate continues to drop. It is down to 18% this year. Only 14% in New York City. I heard the same statistic and what is encouraging is a report I heard saying the percent of new teenage smokers has dropped. That is great news. Massachusetts just instituted a new tax which raises the amount of tax on cigarettes another $1.00 per PACK. They will simply tax smoking out of the reach of most. People will be forced to quit when they cannot afford to buy them. This is sin tax to a really high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie2pies Posted August 14, 2013 #23 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I guess I'll be forced to book on the last line to allow smoking on a balcony. If I can't book a cabin with smoking on the balcony, I'll quit cruising and go to a land vacation which still allows smoking. If and when they no longer allow smoking, I'll sit in my den or at my inground pool and smoke when I wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PathfinderEss Posted August 14, 2013 #24 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I heard the same statistic and what is encouraging is a report I heard saying the percent of new teenage smokers has dropped. That is great news. Massachusetts just instituted a new tax which raises the amount of tax on cigarettes another $1.00 per PACK. They will simply tax smoking out of the reach of most. People will be forced to quit when they cannot afford to buy them. This is sin tax to a really high level. I think your wrong Sails, people will always pay the price for their habits, just like for alcohol or any of the other drugs out there. They can and do forego other things so they can feed their habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare erewhon Posted August 14, 2013 #25 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Will HAL be next? Would be great if they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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