Ocean Boy Posted January 23, 2015 #626 Share Posted January 23, 2015 How many people do the new cabins increase the capacity of the Freedom class ships by? I never really had the sense that more people aboard was something that would particularly enhance the cruise experience.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepFreeze Posted January 23, 2015 #627 Share Posted January 23, 2015 How many people do the new cabins increase the capacity of the Freedom class ships by? I never really had the sense that more people aboard was something that would particularly enhance the cruise experience.:rolleyes: Same here. Last time I was on FOS, it seemed busy. Going again in a few weeks. Sure hope it's not "State Fair" crowded this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryano Posted January 23, 2015 #628 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) How many people do the new cabins increase the capacity of the Freedom class ships by? I never really had the sense that more people aboard was something that would particularly enhance the cruise experience.:rolleyes: Several hundred I believe? My biggest concern is the elevators. They were already over crowded and Freedom almost needs another whole new bank of them. Seems I had to plan way in advance and come up with a strategy to get up and down anywhere much worse than the other two RCI ships I was on. I know adding more elevators is not possible now but I guess the point Im trying to make is the elevator crowds will only be that much worse with more passengers on board. Especially if she is jammed to capacity and with the deals they are running right now on my sailing, I feel like she will be. Edited January 23, 2015 by ryano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 23, 2015 #629 Share Posted January 23, 2015 How many people do the new cabins increase the capacity of the Freedom class ships by? I never really had the sense that more people aboard was something that would particularly enhance the cruise experience.:rolleyes: If they put in the same number of staterooms as they did on NV, then the increase would probably be 160-200, depending on how many 3/4 guests they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted January 23, 2015 #630 Share Posted January 23, 2015 If they put in the same number of staterooms as they did on NV, then the increase would probably be 160-200, depending on how many 3/4 guests they get. Probably a solid rangr. I think I saw the number 67 somewhere on these threads, so it would be at least 134, and from the deck plans it looks like a lot of them can hold 3 or 4. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2Mich Posted January 23, 2015 #631 Share Posted January 23, 2015 If they put in the same number of staterooms as they did on NV, then the increase would probably be 160-200, depending on how many 3/4 guests they get. With the info I got of 67 new cabins, your estimate is probably pretty close Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted January 23, 2015 #632 Share Posted January 23, 2015 How many people do the new cabins increase the capacity of the Freedom class ships by? I never really had the sense that more people aboard was something that would particularly enhance the cruise experience.:rolleyes: 67 cabins added which is 134 pax. 16 of those cabins can hold 4 so add 32 which would be 166 additional pax. I'm just curious as to how they increased the lifeboat capacity. As it was before they added the cabins the captain was telling us that there are far more berths already on board than there was lifeboat capacity. He said that they could sail at full capacity yet still have many empty cabins on board when more people booked 4 into a quad cabin. While they did add 166 berths that may not have increased the capacity by that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 23, 2015 #633 Share Posted January 23, 2015 With the info I got of 67 new cabins, your estimate is probably pretty close My estimate was based on 84 staterooms, which I believe is what was added to NV. I'd lower the estimate if FR only got 67 staterooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted January 23, 2015 #634 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I think the number of new cabins is 77, with 44 on deck 12, including a couple of 'family' cabins up front that hold 6 passengers each along with 29 cabins down on deck 3. The 160 to 200 additional passenger range seems about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2Mich Posted January 23, 2015 #635 Share Posted January 23, 2015 My estimate was based on 84 staterooms, which I believe is what was added to NV. I'd lower the estimate if FR only got 67 staterooms. With the official number I got from RCI of 67 (of course that may not be 100% accurate either) if a fair number of them are 3-4 pax (and at least 2 cabins are FO designed for 5-6), you're probably still fairly close. My guess is from 150-180 more pax. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 23, 2015 #636 Share Posted January 23, 2015 ...I'm just curious as to how they increased the lifeboat capacity. ... Maybe they reduced the number of crewmembers.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teacherloves2Cruise Posted January 23, 2015 #637 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Several hundred I believe? My biggest concern is the elevators. They were already over crowded and Freedom almost needs another whole new bank of them. Seems I had to plan way in advance and come up with a strategy to get up and down anywhere much worse than the other two RCI ships I was on. I know adding more elevators is not possible now but I guess the point Im trying to make is the elevator crowds will only be that much worse with more passengers on board. Especially if she is jammed to capacity and with the deals they are running right now on my sailing, I feel like she will be. For me, it is deck space near the pool and the buffet. So many people like to be by the pool on sea days. Most everyone eats breakfast and lunch at the buffet. That may feel quite tight. Because I do so much eating on cruises, I never take an elevator except with luggage. The crowd waiting most times also dissuades me from taking one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryano Posted January 23, 2015 #638 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) I never take an elevator except with luggage. The crowd waiting most times also dissuades me from taking one. I dont blame you :) If I could walk, no one would EVER see me on a cruise ship elevator again. Ever! Maybe 180-200 more passengers wont be such a big deal. Edited January 23, 2015 by ryano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted January 23, 2015 #639 Share Posted January 23, 2015 With the official number I got from RCI of 67 (of course that may not be 100% accurate either) if a fair number of them are 3-4 pax (and at least 2 cabins are FO designed for 5-6), you're probably still fairly close. My guess is from 150-180 more pax. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app I think the difference between the official 67, and the 77 count that some people are getting is that there are 10 cabins on deck three that were constructed either during, or sometime in between, the "Oasis-izing" work done a few years ago and the current dry dock that are being counted as "new". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted January 23, 2015 #640 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Maybe they reduced the number of crewmembers.;) Let's hope that is not the case. They can easily add additional Viking rafts for crew. I wonder if RCI have bought or considered buying any of the new hybrid LIFECRAFT lifeboat / liferaft systems now available from Viking. Not sure if these give them any flexibility in this area. http://www.viking-life.com/viking.nsf/public/passenger-lifecraft.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 23, 2015 #641 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I dont blame you :) If I could walk, no one would EVER see me on a cruise ship elevator again. Ever! Maybe 180-200 more passengers wont be such a big deal. It does not sound like a big deal, but because Freedom class is basically a stretched Voyager class, I always felt a bit more crowded on Freedom, especially in the theater and Windjammer. The stretch added around 500 pax, and now this makes it even more tight. In other words, I feel like the 200 or so pax added to Navigator still makes it less crowded than an unmodified Freedom class ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted January 23, 2015 #642 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I dont blame you :) If I could walk, no one would EVER see me on a cruise ship elevator again. Ever! Maybe 180-200 more passengers wont be such a big deal. DW will likely be recovering from double knee replacement in March, and stairs will not be an option for her either. I wish they would designate an elevator for pax with ADA requirements (maybe key card activated?) that would alleviate the problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 23, 2015 #643 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Let's hope that is not the case. They can easily add additional Viking rafts for crew. I wonder if RCI have bought or considered buying any of the new hybrid LIFECRAFT lifeboat / liferaft systems now available from Viking. Not sure if these give them any flexibility in this area. http://www.viking-life.com/viking.nsf/public/passenger-lifecraft.html That system looks pretty slick. I wonder how small it is when it's packed up on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted January 23, 2015 #644 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I think the difference between the official 67, and the 77 count that some people are getting is that there are 10 cabins on deck three that were constructed either during, or sometime in between, the "Oasis-izing" work done a few years ago and the current dry dock that are being counted as "new". Yes, if they were open for sale prior to this dry-dock, that would be the case. It is then interesting that they did not add those to Liberty previously when they 'Oasis-ized' her around the same time. It is interesting that RCI did not feature those 'new cabins' on their revitalization flyers where they featured all the new additions being done to each ship. http://www.creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/General_Info/Flyers/12028421_Revit_QuickReference_Guide.pdf It is also interesting that the 5 'deck plan websites' I just checked on the internet all had them wrong and did not show those cabins on their current Freedom featured deck plans. That is sure a lot of incorrect information out there concerning those cabins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted January 23, 2015 #645 Share Posted January 23, 2015 That system looks pretty slick. I wonder how small it is when it's packed up on the ship. They can place 4 of them in each unit. They each hold 200 passengers. That means that they can hold 800 passengers each in about the area of one current life boat. I think their greatest advantage is that they can be used in various 'list' situation and they also have a 'chute' system for disabled, the elderly and children that improve the evacuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted January 23, 2015 #646 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Let's hope that is not the case. They can easily add additional Viking rafts for crew. http://www.viking-life.com/viking.nsf/public/passenger-lifecraft.html I used to tell my son those were depth charges in case we came under attack by submarines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted January 23, 2015 #647 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Yes, if they were open for sale prior to this dry-dock, that would be the case. It is then interesting that they did not add those to Liberty previously when they 'Oasis-ized' her around the same time. It is interesting that RCI did not feature those 'new cabins' on their revitalization flyers where they featured all the new additions being done to each ship. http://www.creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/General_Info/Flyers/12028421_Revit_QuickReference_Guide.pdf It is also interesting that the 5 'deck plan websites' I just checked on the internet all had them wrong and did not show those cabins on their current Freedom featured deck plans. That is sure a lot of incorrect information out there concerning those cabins. Those cabins show up on both Liberty and Indy deck plans. http://www.royalcaribbean.com/findacruise/ships/ship/decks/deck/home.do?deckCode=03&shipCode=ID&shipProfile=1585&sailDate=1150125&hasNavigation=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare wilmingtech Posted January 23, 2015 #648 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Seeing as they are overhauling the Azipods on the Freedom, can anyone speculate as to whether will they be doing a test run before the 28th to make sure everything is working correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted January 23, 2015 #649 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Those cabins show up on both Liberty and Indy deck plans. http://www.royalcaribbean.com/findacruise/ships/ship/decks/deck/home.do?deckCode=03&shipCode=ID&shipProfile=1585&sailDate=1150125&hasNavigation=false Thanks, it seems the movement of the private dining rooms wording creates an optical illusion that they were not there prior. I saw them directly this time on your link, but they are still missing from many deck plans out there at agencies and deck plan websites, which is what I was commenting on that I found interesting, not the fact that they did not exist prior. It is amazing how much 'incorrect' info is still out there on these cabins, that seem to have existed for some time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted January 23, 2015 #650 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I used to tell my son those were depth charges in case we came under attack by submarines When we were on Enchantment in October, they held a crew training session with one of these in the main pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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