Legal challenge to Formal attire

[1160451]

Hi everybody. We cruised in the Ryndam last year. A friend of ours has just returned from a Ryndam cruise to Norway out of the UK.

On the Formal nights he was surprised to see shorts and casual shirts worn on Formal night in MDR.

So he asked the Cruise Director why they let them into the MDR, the answer was that there was a court case, as we say in the UK, going through court from a passenger claiming that enforcing formal attire was infringing his liberties.

I asked my friend if the CD was joking but he said not.

Anybody else heard of this or is it just another fob off by HAL to dumb down formal nights.

[iancal]

Absolutely nothing would surprise me when it comes to litigation in the US.

[3rdGenCunarder]

Absolutely nothing would surprise me when it comes to litigation in the US.

 

Sadly, I agree.

 

It doesn't sound like a suit that has much going for it. Nobody is refused a meal, just a particular place to have it. IF this suit exists, it's likely somebody making a stink in hopes of being "bought off" with a free cruise.

Edited August 19, 2014 by 3rdGenCunarder

[sail7seas]

No, I have never heard of it and think it pathetic.

 

So sad of the plaintiff and even worse of Plaintiff's attorney, IMO. Maybe (s)he is pro se.

What a waste of the courts time and costs/sanctions should be assessed to the 'loser'.

 

Edited August 19, 2014 by sail7seas

[cruz chic]

Sounds as if the person has too much free time. I've heard everything now.

[uilleann]

I think that this is great and I hope the plaintiffs win! Further... i hope this becomes more prevalent with other cruise lines till they take dress codes off cruises!

 

 

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[Padraic]

Until I had more information considering the "suit" I would question the truth of the comments of the Cruise Director.

[Krazy Kruizers]

This is the first I have heard of this.

I certainly hope it isn't true.

[cruisemom42]

Could we consider this a suit suit?

 

All I can say is that we live in a crazy world. Everyone wants everything their own way with no compromise possible. To expect that in a world where there are 7 billion other souls defies all logic.

[igraf]

So would I. Fine restaurants all around the US and the world have dress codes.

 

Sounds like the CD just didn't want to bother to enforce the dress code so he/she came up with this lame excuse.

 

igraf

 

 

 

 

 

Until I had more information considering the "suit" I would question the truth of the comments of the Cruise Director.

[Gail & Marty sailing away]

Lawyer's making money ..

[Lizzie68]

I am really surprised that such a frivolous suit is being allowed to make its way through the UK legal system. At one time it would have been thrown out at the very first stage.

[Himself]

Hi everybody. We cruised in the Ryndam last year. A friend of ours has just returned from a Ryndam cruise to Norway out of the UK.

On the Formal nights he was surprised to see shorts and casual shirts worn on Formal night in MDR.

So he asked the Cruise Director why they let them into the MDR, the answer was that there was a court case, as we say in the UK, going through court from a passenger claiming that enforcing formal attire was infringing his liberties.

I asked my friend if the CD was joking but he said not.

Anybody else heard of this or is it just another fob off by HAL to dumb down formal nights.

 

In the USA we have had so many kooky judges make crazy rulings from the lunatic fringe.

Individual rights do not supersede the common good.

[SilvertoGold]

No, I have never heard of it and think it pathetic.

 

So sad of the plaintiff and even worse of Plaintiff's attorney, IMO. Maybe (s)he is pro se.

What a waste of the courts time and costs/sanctions should be assessed to the 'loser'.

 

 

If this is actually true, "pathetic" is the right word.

[soccerpapi]

Why would the cruise director lie? Or make something up?

 

I tend to believe him, otherwise why would he stick his neck out like this?

 

 

soccer

[bcd2010]

Hmmm... maybe those of us who go through the time, effort and expense of following HAL's "suggestions" for formal night attire should sue HAL for not enforcing their dress code.

[Fouremco]

I'm not sure who is more audacious, the person initiating the suit or the CD using it as an excuse. There has been no similar reporting from other ships, and I doubt very seriously that the CD was accurately reflecting new HAL policy now in effect because of the court proceedings.

[serendipity1499]

Until I had more information considering the "suit" I would question the truth of the comments of the Cruise Director.

 

So would I. Fine restaurants all around the US and the world have dress codes.

 

Sounds like the CD just didn't want to bother to enforce the dress code so he/she came up with this lame excuse.

 

igraf

 

I also question the Cruise Directors Comments & truly believe he/she just didn't want to bother enforcing the dress code..

 

BTW folks the OP mentioned the cruise originated in the UK, not the USA, so we can't assume this is about the US legal system..

[Surreyman]

On the Nordam last week they were turning away people not in smart casual on non-formal nights but were not turning away people in smart casual on formal nights

[Wakepatrol]

Can I make an 8:45 am flight out of Vancouver the day we get in?

[Yodalicious]

If it is a formal night do you really care what any one else wears? I care what i wear and my hubby wears. We choose to "dress". If someone else does not... Their loss