No more air jets on Rhapsody.

[Blizzard54]

I was recently on the Rhapsody of the Seas and all of the hot tubs no longer have air jets.

 

Has this change been made on other ships as well?

[dancinman66]

Interesting question

Didn't notice last time I was on board

 

 

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[Yorkvillain]

Cutbacks. Should save Royal millions. :eek:

[Blizzard54]

We were on the 8/15 sailing of the Rhapsody.

 

In the Compass it states:

 

"For your health and safety the hot tubs are operated with gentle water jets (NO air jets)."

 

I was previously unaware the air jets were unsafe.

[71Corvette]

Perhaps the thinking is that the small bubbles created by the air jets could obscure a drowning victim?

 

Too bad, hot tubs aren't the same without air jets. :(

[Clarea]

I read something about a bacteria that is somehow spread by the air jets.

[BlueSkySailing]

Bob is again correct! You can get Legionnaires Disease from HotTubs. But if Royal monitors the chemicals. This should never happen. Happy Sailing!!!!

[Firefighterhoop]

There is something with the way the system was constructed that doesn't meet current code - is what I was advised by an officer last year on the Rhapsody... There are also no bubbles on the Vision or Legend (Have not been on the Spledour).

 

There ARE bubbles on the Grandeur and Enchantment which were the two Vision ships that were built at a different shipyard, as well as the majority of the rest of the fleet.

Edited August 31, 2014 by Firefighterhoop

[The_Big_M]

We were on the 8/15 sailing of the Rhapsody.

 

In the Compass it states:

 

"For your health and safety the hot tubs are operated with gentle water jets (NO air jets)."

 

I was previously unaware the air jets were unsafe.

 

I don't know when the change was made, but it's been like that for a while.

 

Still okay to soak in.

[kwazi07]

There were water but not air jest on Enchantment. They abuse you! However,the bubbles on the seats and floor is lame.

 

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[dacsmom]

There is something with the way the system was constructed that doesn't meet current code - is what I was advised by an officer last year on the Rhapsody... There are also no bubbles on the Vision or Legend (Have not been on the Spledour).

 

There ARE bubbles on the Grandeur and Enchantment which were the two Vision ships that were built at a different shipyard, as well as the majority of the rest of the fleet.

 

So isn't a hot tub without bubbles a bathtub?

[Clarea]

So isn't a hot tub without bubbles a bathtub?

The water jets are still operational.

[Kevin's girl]

We had water jets on the Brilliance, it was very nice. One of my favorite places to relax after a busy day of touring.

[matj2000]

Thank god it is done in the name of passenger safety.

 

Good to know RC is looking out for us........

[setsail]

The water jets are still operational.

 

Yes:D

 

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=176857&d=1291289338

[BlueSkySailing]

So isn't a hot tub without bubbles a bathtub?

 

A HotTub stays filled with water and and may or maynot have jets. They are treated with chemicals for sanitation. A bathtub is filled and emptied as needed and doesn't have jets. ;)

[chengkp75]

Hot tubs are maintained at elevated temperatures, which are close to the optimum breeding temperature for Legionella bacillus. Since Legionella is an airborne, aspirated bacteria, when you aerosolize the warm water by introducing air jets, you exacerbate the problem. While maintaining the hot tub chlorine levels at the USPH recommended levels of 8-10ppm (much higher than home pools or tubs) SHOULD take care of this, there are various reasons why Legionella will continue to be present. Overloading of the hot tub (too many people) will exceed the design limit of the filtration equipment, and people who do not shower BEFORE getting in the tub to remove sunscreen, will cause an oil film on the water surface which affects the chlorine's ability to kill bacteria. (I know I will get flamed for saying that you should get in the tub without sunscreen, as this will cause cancer, but this is the USPH's recommendation, based on pool chemistry and oil).

 

Another way that the ships keep Legionella under control, is that during the nightly draining of the tubs, they will "super-chlorinate" the water to 100ppm, which will remove the chlorine scale on the inside of the pipework, because the bacteria tends to live between this scale and the pipe itself.

 

So, the removal of the air jets from public hot tubs is a USPH requirement.

[setsail]

But then you get this:D

 

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2068202&highlight=oasis+ruined+my+bathing+suit

[chengkp75]

But then you get this:D

 

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2068202&highlight=oasis+ruined+my+bathing+suit

 

Yep, and sitting in the hot tubs all day will tend to rot the stitching out of cheap swimwear, so we get complaints all the time that the pool chemistry isn't right.

[dancinman66]

Hot tubs are maintained at elevated temperatures, which are close to the optimum breeding temperature for Legionella bacillus. Since Legionella is an airborne, aspirated bacteria, when you aerosolize the warm water by introducing air jets, you exacerbate the problem. While maintaining the hot tub chlorine levels at the USPH recommended levels of 8-10ppm (much higher than home pools or tubs) SHOULD take care of this, there are various reasons why Legionella will continue to be present. Overloading of the hot tub (too many people) will exceed the design limit of the filtration equipment, and people who do not shower BEFORE getting in the tub to remove sunscreen, will cause an oil film on the water surface which affects the chlorine's ability to kill bacteria. (I know I will get flamed for saying that you should get in the tub without sunscreen, as this will cause cancer, but this is the USPH's recommendation, based on pool chemistry and oil).

 

 

 

Another way that the ships keep Legionella under control, is that during the nightly draining of the tubs, they will "super-chlorinate" the water to 100ppm, which will remove the chlorine scale on the inside of the pipework, because the bacteria tends to live between this scale and the pipe itself.

 

 

 

So, the removal of the air jets from public hot tubs is a USPH requirement.

 

 

Wow. Thanks for the breakdown

Makes a lot of sense now

 

 

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[wayne_trisha]

Hot tubs are maintained at elevated temperatures, which are close to the optimum breeding temperature for Legionella bacillus. Since Legionella is an airborne, aspirated bacteria, when you aerosolize the warm water by introducing air jets, you exacerbate the problem. While maintaining the hot tub chlorine levels at the USPH recommended levels of 8-10ppm (much higher than home pools or tubs) SHOULD take care of this, there are various reasons why Legionella will continue to be present. Overloading of the hot tub (too many people) will exceed the design limit of the filtration equipment, and people who do not shower BEFORE getting in the tub to remove sunscreen, will cause an oil film on the water surface which affects the chlorine's ability to kill bacteria. (I know I will get flamed for saying that you should get in the tub without sunscreen, as this will cause cancer, but this is the USPH's recommendation, based on pool chemistry and oil).

 

Another way that the ships keep Legionella under control, is that during the nightly draining of the tubs, they will "super-chlorinate" the water to 100ppm, which will remove the chlorine scale on the inside of the pipework, because the bacteria tends to live between this scale and the pipe itself.

 

So, the removal of the air jets from public hot tubs is a USPH requirement.

 

Very interesting information. We never get into the human stew pots on board anyways.

[newgirl2201]

Very interesting information. We never get into the human stew pots on board anyways.

 

No they don't hold much appeal for us either.

[ccotting]

Yep, and sitting in the hot tubs all day will tend to rot the stitching out of cheap swimwear, so we get complaints all the time that the pool chemistry isn't right.

 

Hey now! I've had this problem and it wasn't cheap swimwear! It's the lycra doesn't cope will with chlorine. American made quality swimwear. No judgements please and thank you!!!!