Head's up, HAL: Luminae is excellent!

[absolutboy20]

Do all Celebrity ships have this Luminae?

 

Yes it's a full roll out on their ships except the Xpedition that only carries about 100 passengers. And by the prices on that ship, it better already be Luminae quality :p

[sail7seas]

Thanks.

I have mixed feelings about it.

 

Being one who sails in Suites, I'm not sure I like having breakfast and dinner in a 'secluded' space.

 

[kenevenpar]

Do all Celebrity ships have this Luminae?

 

Yes.

 

Here is a link to cruise critic pictures

 

http://gallery.cruisecritic.com/ships/celebrity-eclipse-413/luminae-123240/luminae--v7106501/

[Sir PMP]

Celebrity has added a suite-passenger-only dining room on some of it's ships that we enjoyed recently. So much so it makes me look at Celebrity first when booking future cruises. Everything about this venue is on as high par as Pinnacle. It is available to all suite passengers, from Sky Suites to Reflection Suites. It's a beautiful, and often quiet room (much like Pinnacle at breakfast) and the service staff really want you to enjoy it. This is something HAL needs to take a really close look at, really quickly. To me, everything about HAL and Celebrity are on par with one another, but, to me, Luminae will start pushing me in the direction of Celebrity.

 

Great that Celeb has it, you should also enjoy Cunard, they have different classes too, Hal doesn't and that's the way we like it...

[POA1]

This is basically the reverse of the "In Defense of the Budget Cruiser" thread, no?

[doublebzz]

Hal doesn't and that's the way we like it...

 

Is that the Royal "we" or are you speaking for all of us?

[scamper]

I think some of you are going way over the top with respect to this "class" issue. This isn't an entirely different section of the ship, as you would find in First Class or Business Class on an airplane or train, this is a dining room. And, if someone thought being on a modern day cruise ship made them feel like being on "Titanic" then you obviously don't know what the "class" system was about in those days--same thing as today--it had EVERYTHING to do with MONEY. I would also encourage some of you to reevaluate your self-esteem, but that is a whole 'nother topic.

 

How do you feel about there being a First Class on airplanes or trains? How do you feel about "club" floors in some hotels? Do they make you feel you're unworthy? Are you belittled by those? Give me a break. No one is forcing anyone on X to use Luminae exclusively, everyone on the ship has just as much access to the MDR as does everyone else on the ship. It's all about money, folks, and has nothing to do with "class." A small part of capitalism is paying more for a little bit better product. There is a big difference in price between a new Cadillac and a new Toyota. If you prefer the Toyota and everything that goes with it, good for you, but some of us prefer the Cadillac and everything that goes with it.

[POA1]

I think some of you are going way over the top with respect to this "class" issue. This isn't an entirely different section of the ship, as you would find in First Class or Business Class on an airplane or train, this is a dining room.

 

It's completely different than first class in a plane. One, it's at sea level. Two, anyone can dine there. No? What? Wait! It's completely different. I swear.

[ellieanne]

I think some of you are going way over the top with respect to this "class" issue. This isn't an entirely different section of the ship, as you would find in First Class or Business Class on an airplane or train, this is a dining room. And, if someone thought being on a modern day cruise ship made them feel like being on "Titanic" then you obviously don't know what the "class" system was about in those days--same thing as today--it had EVERYTHING to do with MONEY. I would also encourage some of you to reevaluate your self-esteem, but that is a whole 'nother topic.

 

How do you feel about there being a First Class on airplanes or trains? How do you feel about "club" floors in some hotels? Do they make you feel you're unworthy? Are you belittled by those? Give me a break. No one is forcing anyone on X to use Luminae exclusively, everyone on the ship has just as much access to the MDR as does everyone else on the ship. It's all about money, folks, and has nothing to do with "class." A small part of capitalism is paying more for a little bit better product. There is a big difference in price between a new Cadillac and a new Toyota. If you prefer the Toyota and everything that goes with it, good for you, but some of us prefer the Cadillac and everything that goes with it.

 

I think the issue is more carving out space that was free and open to anyone on the ship and making it exclusive. If the ship was built with the separate areas, as on the Eurodam & Nieuw Amsterdam and the Lido cabanas, it's not a problem. But to retro-fit them on the other ships feels as though HAL is moving towards a "haves" vs. "have-nots" system. It feels as though the line is classing its guests.

 

I have no issue with First Class on planes or trains, as it has always been there. Retrofitting a First Class section on tram cars or planes operated by Southwest would certainly feel as though they were trying to pit passengers against one another in class system.

 

To me, segregating any one group of passengers from previously open and accessible space is the same.

[AncientWanderer]

I don't post too often here, but enjoy CC.

 

We are HAL Three-Star Mariners and have cruised with many other lines, including Celebrity in one of their upper tier staterooms. We've come to purposefully avoid lines that limit access to amenities. Cunard comes immediately to mind. We pay for many extra treats, and like to have the option to do so.

 

One thing that I don't believe has been mentioned here is availability of staterooms. We cruise a lot, and because of the nature of DH's work, we sometimes aren't able to book far enough in advance to secure exactly the cabin we might prefer. But we get onboard and enjoy wherever we end up. It would be no fun to get onboard and then find that most of the nicest things are not available to us.

 

We love cruising with HAL. It does feel like family at sea.

[cruz chic]

I have not been impressed with celebrity so this does nothing for me.

 

As far as taking space away from people it's the way of the world. Those who pay more, get more. That's the way it is for everything. People complain about cabanas. Everyone is welcome to purchase one. It's sounds like a bit of sour grapes to me.

[RMLincoln]

We usually look for a good deal.

 

It's great that many cruisers can and want to pay for higher priced rooms - that keeps our prices lower :) So do high-rollers in the Casino and heavy drinkers and all the other ways a cruise line makes money.

 

If perks come with higher priced rooms, well may those who paid for them enjoy! We get the perk of lower prices for insides and OVs.

 

Are the menus for the suites passengers higher quality? Is the passenger to crew ratio better for those in the suites dining room? I'd be surprised if it isn't.

 

Celebrity has it's high-priced perks, as does NCL, and Princess has roped off areas for Elite, HAL has the Neptune lounge.... and we get a good deal on an inside or OV and a good cruise experience. I think I can deal with that.

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[scluvsrain]

The dining for suite only guests is something that prevents us from booking a cruise on Celebrity. We dislike the idea of creating a class system. We feel that no matter what type of cabin we choose to sail in, we should be able to dine in any restaurant we choose. Our money is just as good as that of someone in a suite. HAL, don't start a class system, please.

 

Totally agree!

[sail7seas]

I'm sure all the cruise lines have 'undercover cruisers' they send to the various ships/cruise companies. They well know what is being done on other ships, how it is being received and evaluate if it is suitable for their product.

 

[kenevenpar]

I'm sure all the cruise lines have 'undercover cruisers' they send to the various ships/cruise companies. They well know what is being done on other ships, how it is being received and evaluate if it is suitable for their product.

 

 

Agreed! And I hereby offer my service. :cool:

[chloes nana]

buh bye!!

Edited July 2, 2015 by chloes nana

[sail7seas]

buh bye!!

 

Huh? :confused:

 

[doublemm16]

Thanks.

I have mixed feelings about it.

 

Being one who sails in Suites, I'm not sure I like having breakfast and dinner in a 'secluded' space.

 

 

You do not have to partake in Luminae if you do not choose too. My friend and I were able to make arrangements to eat in the MDR because that is what my friend wanted to do.

 

You could eat breakfast in the MDR, the buffet or in your suite in addition to the Luminae option. Same for lunch. It is just the evening meal that you would need to see the Maitre D to arrange for a table. That said, you could still eat in Luminae anytime you like.

[edi1140]

I don't think that's such a "sad" thing. One of the things I like best about HAL is that once I leave my steerage cabin, no-one knows or treats me differently. I am not excluded from anywhere except the Neptune Lounge -- and having been in there, I really don't see the appeal of spending time in a windowless room.

 

 

 

I'm glad HAL is not considering this as of yet. Which is not to say they will not, but I really like being able to go (almost) everywhere and experience (almost) everything on the ship, even though I actually PREFER an ocean-view cabin low down and forward. I don't think HAL ships or the HAL experience would be improved by setting aside dining venues for the "haves" and "have-nots." (And yes, I know they already set aside the Pinnacle Grill for breakfast for the suite passengers.)

 

 

Completely agree. The HAL experience is just a bit upscale, enough to feel luxurious, but without any hint of appealing to the horsie set. I like it the way it is and look forward to trying the Konigsdam.

[igraf]

It is sad and pathetic that some people feel like they have to purchase superior social status, and rub it everyone else's face during the cruise.

 

I have enough confidence in myself to have dinner with everyone else.

 

igraf

 

 

 

 

Celebrity has added a suite-passenger-only dining room on some of it's ships that we enjoyed recently. So much so it makes me look at Celebrity first when booking future cruises. Everything about this venue is on as high par as Pinnacle. It is available to all suite passengers, from Sky Suites to Reflection Suites. It's a beautiful, and often quiet room (much like Pinnacle at breakfast) and the service staff really want you to enjoy it. This is something HAL needs to take a really close look at, really quickly. To me, everything about HAL and Celebrity are on par with one another, but, to me, Luminae will start pushing me in the direction of Celebrity.

[doublebzz]

It is sad and pathetic that some people feel like they have to purchase superior social status, and rub it everyone else's face during the cruise.

 

I have enough confidence in myself to have dinner with everyone else.

 

igraf

 

I think that's a bit harsh. I never experienced any guests flaunt their suite status in many HAL cruises in which I had a plain vanilla cabin.

[cruz chic]

It is sad and pathetic that some people feel like they have to purchase superior social status, and rub it everyone else's face during the cruise.

 

I have enough confidence in myself to have dinner with everyone else.

 

igraf

 

Really? I haven't found that happening much. What I have found is cheapie Charlies bragging about how little they paid for their cruise to anyone that will listen. That's sad and pathetic to me.

Edited July 3, 2015 by cruz chic

[CruiseMob]

I'm not understanding why people think this is a "class system". Sometimes we sail in suites, and sometimes we don't. When I sail in a suite I take advantage of the extra's that come with the extra cost. Free laundry, Neptune Lounge, Priority boarding, etc. HAL allows breakfast (or is it lunch :confused:) in Pinnacle Grill if you are in a suite, so other than the fact that one is dinner and one is breakfast/lunch I don't see the difference with what Celebrity did. Neptune Lounge is it's own area for suite only guests also. Seems the same to me. I also don't understand the statement that cabanas are different because anyone can buy them - well anyone can book a suite also. This is capitalism, not a class system.

[mum22girls]

Celebrity has added a suite-passenger-only dining room on some of it's ships that we enjoyed recently. So much so it makes me look at Celebrity first when booking future cruises. Everything about this venue is on as high par as Pinnacle. It is available to all suite passengers, from Sky Suites to Reflection Suites. It's a beautiful, and often quiet room (much like Pinnacle at breakfast) and the service staff really want you to enjoy it. This is something HAL needs to take a really close look at, really quickly. To me, everything about HAL and Celebrity are on par with one another, but, to me, Luminae will start pushing me in the direction of Celebrity.

 

 

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[Aquahound]

It is sad and pathetic that some people feel like they have to purchase superior social status, and rub it everyone else's face during the cruise.

 

I have enough confidence in myself to have dinner with everyone else.

 

That sentiment is most often a result of insecurity in the person not in a suite, not a sense of superiority in the suite guest.