cheezwiz Posted March 6, 2016 #101 Share Posted March 6, 2016 It's usually a euphemism for the benefit of family and friends. It's up there with "foul play is not suspected" and "single vehicle collision" and "at home, tragically". While it's unlikely his family will be reading this, a little tact and sensitivity wouldn't go astray. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a h-anam, Very nice post, including the sentiment at the end. Condolences to his family, should they ever read this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdchachi Posted March 7, 2016 #102 Share Posted March 7, 2016 NY Daily news quoted a passenger as saying that he heard second hand that the guy had gone overboard after having a big argument with his mother. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/coast-guard-searches-texas-man-fell-cruise-ship-article-1.2554468 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsanTom Posted March 7, 2016 #103 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Very difficult for a person to fall off of a ship! Respects to the family! RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredofshaw Posted March 7, 2016 #104 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Search suspended https://gma.yahoo.com/coast-guard-continues-search-missing-royal-caribbean-cruise-175832352--abc-news-topstories.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZCactusCruiser Posted March 7, 2016 #105 Share Posted March 7, 2016 But MOST of us know better than to sit on the balcony rail. Exhibit A for "stupid things" - and surely a signal that he should be the recipient of a Darwin Award. Famous last words.........ok, now smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartbda Posted March 7, 2016 #106 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I would presume RCL has the incident "on tape". Second the cruise lines are pretty insulated from the lawyers being registered in the Bahamas. What does this mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabansail Posted March 7, 2016 #107 Share Posted March 7, 2016 ................since they use "Oscar,Oscar,Oscar" as a signal for man overboard do you think that Oscar was one of the first people to jump overboard? It is a sad incident but this comment made me smile. :) His surname was Phonetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSeaEweToo Posted March 7, 2016 #108 Share Posted March 7, 2016 ................since they use "Oscar,Oscar,Oscar" as a signal for man overboard do you think that Oscar was one of the first people to jump overboard? Oscar is the term in the phonetic alphabet for the letter "O" as in Overboard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabansail Posted March 7, 2016 #109 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Oscar is the term in the phonetic alphabet for the letter "O" as in Overboard! Next you will tell me the moon isn't made of cheese and really ruin my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrill Posted March 7, 2016 #110 Share Posted March 7, 2016 ................since they use "Oscar,Oscar,Oscar" as a signal for man overboard do you think that Oscar was one of the first people to jump overboard? Yes, if we look back over thousands of years of people sailing across bodies of water, it was definitely Oscar who was the first man overboard. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constable145 Posted March 7, 2016 #111 Share Posted March 7, 2016 It's been a rough couple of weeks for RCI. First the issues with the Anthem, then the champagne cork incident, and now this. I will pray for his family 😥 Bad publicity for sure. Good for the snake cruise lawyer- absolutely. Were any of these incidents preventable for RCI- unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robaco Posted March 7, 2016 #112 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Bad publicity for sure. Good for the snake cruise lawyer- absolutely. Were any of these incidents preventable for RCI- unlikely. I'll have to agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffybear Posted March 7, 2016 #113 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Next you will tell me the moon isn't made of cheese and really ruin my day. Of course the moon is made of cheese you silly person! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOcruiserman Posted March 7, 2016 #114 Share Posted March 7, 2016 If a person wants to jump off a ship he will do so and, short of physically restraining him, there's nothing the ship's staff can do about it. But I wonder if he'd have jumped if he'd been able to talk to a counselor beforehand. Perhaps the cruiselines should have a trained counselor on board to deal with passengers' emotional problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne123 Posted March 7, 2016 #115 Share Posted March 7, 2016 If a person wants to jump off a ship he will do so and, short of physically restraining him, there's nothing the ship's staff can do about it. But I wonder if he'd have jumped if he'd been able to talk to a counselor beforehand. Perhaps the cruiselines should have a trained counselor on board to deal with passengers' emotional problems. Although this would be ideal, I don't think it is too realistic. I think most suicides (if that is even this case)....stop and say, "maybe I should go speak to a counselor." :( I mean, do they even think about the people they leave behind and what it does to them. Who knows. Just very sad. The Coast Guard called off the search last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredofshaw Posted March 7, 2016 #116 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Although this would be ideal, I don't think it is too realistic. I think most suicides (if that is even this case)....stop and say, "maybe I should go speak to a counselor." :( I mean, do they even think about the people they leave behind and what it does to them. Who knows. Just very sad. The Coast Guard called off the search last night. before ya know it they'll require EVERY railing to have a sign "if thinking about jumping, call this number" like every tall bridge in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted March 7, 2016 #117 Share Posted March 7, 2016 So what term should the media use to describe the initial reporting of a person who has gone overboard? So what if they say "fell overboard?" Does is really even matter? For anyone to get upset about that, I think, is splitting hairs. Personally, I don't care what term the media uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBX-Cruisers Posted March 7, 2016 #118 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) If a person wants to jump off a ship he will do so and, short of physically restraining him, there's nothing the ship's staff can do about it. But I wonder if he'd have jumped if he'd been able to talk to a counselor beforehand. Perhaps the cruiselines should have a trained counselor on board to deal with passengers' emotional problems. As already noted it would probably not be too effective to have a counselor onboard when you decide at the spur of the moment to jump over a railing. However, thinking back to a number of cruises we have been on, there are several people we can remember who could have definitely been helped by having some counseling.:o Perhaps RCL and other lines might make that another profit center. Condolences to the relatives in this sad event Edited March 7, 2016 by OBX-Cruisers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand isle joe Posted March 7, 2016 #119 Share Posted March 7, 2016 before ya know it they'll require EVERY railing to have a sign "if thinking about jumping, call this number" like every tall bridge in the US. .................I would think that they (the cruise lines) could wrap the entire ship with netting to catch all those who "fall":rolleyes: overboard much like those numb skulls did in San Francisco........now what would be the call for the crew if the nets would catch some unfortunate soul? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
constable145 Posted March 7, 2016 #120 Share Posted March 7, 2016 If a person wants to jump off a ship he will do so and, short of physically restraining him, there's nothing the ship's staff can do about it.But I wonder if he'd have jumped if he'd been able to talk to a counselor beforehand. Perhaps the cruiselines should have a trained counselor on board to deal with passengers' emotional problems. Completely unrealistic. If someone wants to commit suicide, they're going to do it. Plus, unless you have a medical doctor sign commitment papers to confine the person to a secure facility, there's nothing stopping the person from going and jumping after they've talked. I speak from experience- apprehend a person under the relevant mental health statute, take them to hospital for a psych assessment, they say the magic words that keeps them from being committed- next thing you know you get a call on the radio or an email message saying that so and so has done themselves in. Sad, but true. It's happened to me different times. While I applaud your thought process, it isn't really a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet524 Posted March 7, 2016 #121 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Perhaps the cruiselines should have a trained counselor on board to deal with passengers' emotional problems. Seriously?:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand isle joe Posted March 7, 2016 #122 Share Posted March 7, 2016 ............they do have people who deal with "peoples' emotional problems".......they are called BARTENDERS.......you know the "old fashion way"..............:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Happy Posted March 7, 2016 #123 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) Footage from the ship will be turned over to the FBI to review. If it shows him climbing over the rails, there's nothing more that can be done. When you cruise or fly, there's no box to check that you have any mental issues when you board or what will make you take your life at a particular time/place. Edited March 7, 2016 by Plum Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted March 7, 2016 #124 Share Posted March 7, 2016 More information posted on this story today, including additional testimony from a couple of onboard passengers: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3479650/PICTURED-Man-46-fell-overboard-Caribbean-cruise-passengers-saw-arguing-mother.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne123 Posted March 7, 2016 #125 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) More information posted on this story today, including additional testimony from a couple of onboard passengers: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3479650/PICTURED-Man-46-fell-overboard-Caribbean-cruise-passengers-saw-arguing-mother.html Thank you for the article. Maybe it's just me...but I really don't think it was any of our business that he had a DUI and DWI. That had nothing to do with this incident....my heart is broken for his mom. I can't even imagine what she is going through. Edited March 7, 2016 by champagne123 ffffff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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