Who has mustered a hundred times?

[greenie082756]

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MY CRUISE IS ABOUT TO START

 

The muster drill is very important. It also means, get ready, get set and GO! :D

[smellycruzer]

One more added to my list!

[triple7tahoe]

There are many have been on many flights' date=' but the instructions are given each time. I would hope that even if you have been on "hundreds of flights" that you still respect that the flight attendants want you to be safe. The same for being on many cruises. Sorry, but I think this comes under the heading of "First World Problems."[/quote']

You took the words right out of my mouth:D

[tanzer22pilot]

To the OP and others who have "mustered 100 times":

 

Do you carry a good flashlight with you?

Do you have a good jacket with you?

Can you grab a set of warm clothes and shoes quickly?

Your medications?

[mrs and mrs]

As a lifelong cruiser who perhaps has sailed a few too many times, I've enjoyed yet endured one too many muster drills. The first few times were fun and exciting, and sometimes you even get to go through some service corridors that are typically off-limits, but at this point I can walk to every muster station in the Princess fleet with my eyes closed. I fully understand the importance and practicality of such events. But the MSC 92 amendment to SOLAS regulation III/19 adopted the requirement of "musters of newly embarked passengers prior to or immediately upon departure." What isn't clear is whether Princess elite members could be granted the option of attending muster on ships that they have sailed multiple times and acknowledge awareness of muster protocols. One could argue that those individuals are indeed not newly embarked passengers.

 

Here is some more background but wouldn't it be a nice perk for frequent Princess passengers?

 

http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=4719

 

I fully concur, that all frequent cruisers who have attended muster numerous times,shouldn't have to muster again. As you state a nice perk, but as a further stipulation to your nice perk, you are required to stand aside

and be last away in the boats, should anything happen.

Seems only fair doesn't it.

Think of it like a double perk, just for you.

You don't have to muster, and in an emergency you can wave us goodbye.

Edited September 6, 2016 by mrs and mrs

[mrs and mrs]

What is SOLAS..... I'm not familiar with that acronym...

 

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Abit like the op.

[vampiress]

my first cruise we mustered on the promenade deck with out life jackets. this made sense. i felt that the script was well done and made sense.

 

my second cruise, we were in the smokey casino, it smelled super bad. the crew members had no amplification, there were multiple muster spots in the same big room and it was hard to understand when 2 people were giving the same spiel amplified in the same room.

 

my last cruise my muster was the theater, they used the amplification it was good.

 

i'm ok with muster as long as long as it is done well. my second cruise i didn't feel it was done well. even if i have cruised many times, it s a small amount of time for me to think about what to do in an emergency before i go have fun.

[Pierlesscruisers]

the crew members had no amplification... when 2 people were giving the same spiel amplified in the same room.

 

Were they amplified or not? :confused:

 

Tom

[floridalover5623]

Were they amplified or not? :confused:

 

Tom

 

What's the difference. They always repeat the same thing every cruise and unless you're a first time cruiser it gets boring.

[Pierlesscruisers]

What's the difference. They always repeat the same thing every cruise and unless you're a first time cruiser it gets boring.

 

It's a joke! Go back and read the message, first the poster says it was unamplified then says it was amplified.

 

As regards it being boring, the way people are today, if you weren't required to go to the safety briefing every single time you cruised, I would suspect that the vast majority of all the people who complain about having to sit through the briefings every time they sail would be the very first ones to turn around and sue the cruise line for "not giving them a safety briefing at the start of the cruise" if something did happen that would require abandoning ship and they or a family member would become injured or worse if they didn't do what they were supposed to do during the evacuation. And, even if you did know by heart what you had heard all the previous times, what if something changed (new procedure, new equipment, etc.) since the last time you heard the briefing? How would you learn that new info if you didn't attend the latest briefing?

 

Tom

[vampiress]

Were they amplified or not? :confused:

 

Tom

 

typo. they were both shouting at opposite ends of the room and i was in the middle of the room. the second amplified was supposed to be shouting.

[floridalover5623]

It's a joke! Go back and read the message, first the poster says it was unamplified then says it was amplified.

 

As regards it being boring, the way people are today, if you weren't required to go to the safety briefing every single time you cruised, I would suspect that the vast majority of all the people who complain about having to sit through the briefings every time they sail would be the very first ones to turn around and sue the cruise line for "not giving them a safety briefing at the start of the cruise" if something did happen that would require abandoning ship and they or a family member would become injured or worse if they didn't do what they were supposed to do during the evacuation. And, even if you did know by heart what you had heard all the previous times, what if something changed (new procedure, new equipment, etc.) since the last time you heard the briefing? How would you learn that new info if you didn't attend the latest briefing?

 

Tom

Nothing has even changed except the muster location in all the years we've been traveling that would make any difference whatsoever.

[Pierlesscruisers]

Nothing has even changed except the muster location in all the years we've been traveling that would make any difference whatsoever.

 

And, even given that the odds of anything of a dangerous nature happening on a cruise ship that would require the passengers and crew to abandon the ship are very, very, small, you would be willing to literally "bet your life" on not knowing something that might save it you would be willing to spend 30 minutes or so missing learning that info. Amazing. To each his own, though.

 

Tom

[easyboy]

The 30 min. muster drill each sailing is not a problem for us.

There is really not much effort need and doesn't take away the fun we were looking for in a cruise.

[Colorado Coasty]

The Coast Guard is constantly recovering the bodies of people who thought they knew everything.

[floridalover5623]

And, even given that the odds of anything of a dangerous nature happening on a cruise ship that would require the passengers and crew to abandon the ship are very, very, small, you would be willing to literally "bet your life" on not knowing something that might save it you would be willing to spend 30 minutes or so missing learning that info. Amazing. To each his own, though.

 

Tom

 

Seeing that the biggest item during muster is finding you way to your muster location, and that can be found on your cabin door. I've never heard anything at any muster talk that could be life threatening.

We've missed a few musters over the years and they send written instructions as what to do.

I'm willing to take my chances, thank you.

[Brisbane41]

I recently encountered this problem on my Diamond Princess cruise in July. I found the muster drill has become far too long with unnecessary waffle and hot air that all of the passengers got sick and tired of listening to it and they tuned out and as a result the drill became counterproductive.

 

If the drill had been direct and straight to the point it would have been better received. Instead Princess is now doing a long winded overly detailed and extremely boring series of announcements with just too much information included.

 

As the ship was sailing from Japan there was announcements in Japanese and English. Myself being able to speak Japanese was able to understand their announcements and realised that it was no near as long and as detailed as the English announcement and was more to the point.

 

I think the whole system should be changed. Listening to all that babbling BS at the drill was enough to bore people to sleep and surely Princess must realise this. Not only that the moment you turned on the television you had to endure the same lengthy announcement before any channels would start. This is overkill.

 

I think the drill should be split. The drill is mandatory but I would support for all regular passengers all they have to do is turn up and prove they know their muster station, get the card signed off, learn the evacuation route on the way and perhaps demonstrate they remember how to try on the lifejacket (not all cruise lines do the lifejacket). All first time passengers or people who rarely cruise should then have to listen to the additional announcements and cruise line rules that are in no way part of the safety drill. The in cabin television system sees to it that everyone doubles up on the announcement so doing it like this would reduce congestion and make it somewhat better.

[WupperAV]

I've only learned one thing from being a pilot. “Complacency and laziness breed further complacency and laziness, and the only way to stop it is by removing it from our mindset."

I have practiced abandon ship a lot of times. When I heard the boom next to my cabin I got out of the bunk, water was on the floor. I went to the closet for my life jacket automatically and I was not scared but prepared to go to the lifeboat. Realised the next cabin flooded from a broken reservoir in the bulkhead and someone opened the door to let the water out. :eek:

[Cruiserkenn]

It is important to practice, practice, practice. While practice might not make perfect, it is better than with no practice. I quote another poster about the importance of "muscle memory." Putting on that life jacket is tricky, if you have not recently done it.

 

I know from an industrial emergency that things might not go as planned, but if you are well versed in the procedures, you are better able to adapt.

 

I cheerfully attend muster drills, even on B2Bs.

 

As another hinted, if you are in doubt, just think "Costa Concordia."

[floridalover5623]

I guess there are some people who must practice every detail of living on a daily basis. When I get to that point in life I'll just have to adapt the best I can but in the mean time I've got better things to do than listen to a talk I've heard 50 times before.

[Cruiserkenn]

It isn't just listening to the talk, but also the aforementioned concept of "muscle memory." Going to your muster station, practicing with the life jacket, and the reminders are all helpful when emergency circumstances arise.

 

Performing under real emergency circumstances takes real presence of mind.

 

Again, remember the Costa Concordia.

[WVBill]

I guess there are some people who must practice every detail of living on a daily basis. When I get to that point in life I'll just have to adapt the best I can but in the mean time I've got better things to do than listen to a talk I've heard 50 times before.

 

Perhaps I just live a boring life or I haven't been on enough cruises so can you clue me in on some of "the better things to do" on the ship at 3:30 PM on the first afternoon of a cruise? Thanks.

[floridalover5623]

Perhaps I just live a boring life or I haven't been on enough cruises so can you clue me in on some of "the better things to do" on the ship at 3:30 PM on the first afternoon of a cruise? Thanks.

 

Sit by the pool with a drink.

Read a book on my balcony.

Unpack getting ready for sail-away.

Take a shower before dinner.

Relax on the balcony knowing I don't have to fight people walking back to the cabin with a life vest.

[Mycruises62]

As a lifelong cruiser who perhaps has sailed a few too many times, I've enjoyed yet endured one too many muster drills. The first few times were fun and exciting, and sometimes you even get to go through some service corridors that are typically off-limits, but at this point I can walk to every muster station in the Princess fleet with my eyes closed. I fully understand the importance and practicality of such events. But the MSC 92 amendment to SOLAS regulation III/19 adopted the requirement of "musters of newly embarked passengers prior to or immediately upon departure." What isn't clear is whether Princess elite members could be granted the option of attending muster on ships that they have sailed multiple times and acknowledge awareness of muster protocols. One could argue that those individuals are indeed not newly embarked passengers.

 

Here is some more background but wouldn't it be a nice perk for frequent Princess passengers?

 

 

 

http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=4719

 

 

If "Elite" has the option so should platinum, ruby and Gold, after my October cruise I will be elite, that doesn't matter, I think everyone should attend.

[Pierlesscruisers]

<<...If "Elite" has the option so should platinum, ruby and Gold, after my October cruise I will be elite, that doesn't matter, I think everyone should attend...>>

 

(Pardon the quoting style here, but for some reason, I can't get the quotation "icon" to work in this thread right now :()

 

I agree with you. Plus, I reiterate what I stated earlier, even if someone has cruised dozens and dozens of times and knows everything by heart, when something does change, whether it is a procedure, equipment or something else, how does that person who has been cruising since Noah was a captain, learn about that new item if he/she is not present at the muster when the new info is put out? How would the company/ship keep track of when the last time a person had been through a muster?

 

When I hear someone say something like "I can walk to every muster station in the Princess fleet with my eyes closed" the first thought that comes to my mind is "I'll take that bet, how much do you want to wager?" I'll bet that if you gave a written test after the muster, a goodly percentage of the people would not pass it, either because they're talking to their friends/family during the presentation, or don't understand what is said, or just weren't paying attention. I also suspect that corporate lawyers would have a fit if they, the company, would ever try and come up with a way for people to "opt out" of attending the muster for whatever reason, simply because of the legal ramifications (liability) of such an action.

 

But, this discussion is really an exercise in futility because nobody, on either side, would probably ever change their minds on this subject. :rolleyes:

 

Tom