caber Posted July 20, 2016 #151 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Surely Princess has an obligation to make sure everyone receives a note of the port agent as an emergency contact in each port. Are Princess newbies told they have to collect the Patter from reception? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shredie Posted July 20, 2016 #152 Share Posted July 20, 2016 First it was Butter-gate and now it's Patter-gate...wonder what will be the next cutback? Any guesses? ;) Maybe to conserve water we'll be back to the original term...Water-gate! :p Haha! I wonder how much Princess pays the guy who runs the "dumb ideas" department. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier-Cruiser Posted July 20, 2016 #153 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Haha! I wonder how much Princess pays the guy who runs the "dumb ideas" department. :) Either 1) They are paying him too much because he isn't out looking for a new job or 2) They aren't paying him enough as he excels at his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisin froggy Posted July 20, 2016 #154 Share Posted July 20, 2016 We agree with everyone who want the Patter continued. We look forward to reading it the night before for info about activities and movie schedules. How else would we know what movies we would want to go see in the theater? And how would we know about the excursions? And we also agree those included ads and ads and ads. Certainly could do without them. We could accept a TV "patter" but that wouldn't suffice for those who want a keepsake. A friend just returned from a Viking ocean cruise and they receive a glossy booklet with all sort so info in it, about the ship, activities etc including excursions and if they had signed up for one, it was noted in the booklet with specific instructions. Obviously, they don't get a daily "patter". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bababooey Land Posted July 20, 2016 Author #155 Share Posted July 20, 2016 We received a Log of the Cruise on Regal last month. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk we did NOT receive a log on the July 6th sailing of the Regal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanibel*Gal Posted July 20, 2016 #156 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Count me as another who wants the Patter everyday in my Stateroom. I am on vacation, so the first thing that goes into the Room Safe is my Phone because I do not want to carry it around looking at some Ap. Bob I agree....keep your apps, I want my Patter everyday please!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky TGO Posted July 20, 2016 #157 Share Posted July 20, 2016 First it was Butter-gate and now it's Patter-gate...wonder what will be the next cutback? Any guesses? ;) Maybe to conserve water we'll be back to the original term...Water-gate! :p My vote is for water-gate :eek: LOL Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted July 20, 2016 #158 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Plus, Princess@sea doesn't work off the ship. So if you're off the ship in port and need information from the Patter, you're out of luck (like the information they provide on how to get help getting back to the ship if you get lost). Surely Princess has an obligation to make sure everyone receives a note of the port agent as an emergency contact in each port. Are Princess newbies told they have to collect the Patter from reception? In the first post the OP provided a PDF copy of the letter about this change & they are providing a "Help Card". "Please find enclosed a 'Help Card' with important contact details for our Port Agents and Embassies to carry with you when venturing ashore in our ports of call". They're providing "a Help Card" which based on their wording is one card with that information for all ports of call. I'm thinking that many passengers could misplace the card and need a replacement card. I'm strongly in favor of receiving a printed copy of the Patter daily which I read each evening before going to sleep to plan my next day. But I've read several studies that say viewing devices at bedtime results in sleep issues and is why Apple has Night Shift in their current iOS. When I've sailed RCCL, their daily activity paper includes a smaller tear off version to carry which only contains activities & nothing else...very convenient & better than carrying a full size Patter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiselover57 Posted July 20, 2016 #159 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Agree with all of the above... Regarding the Patter, we sometimes wish we had TWO as each of us would like to have one when we go opposite directions!!! LOL You can always ask the cabin steward to give you 2 (I've done that whenever I've traveled with a roommate so that way, we both can take them home with us). First time I'm hearing about Princess cutting down on sending out the Patter too. I agree with everyone about less ads such as spa, casino and especially art auctions. Those will always be tossed in the trash - I have no use for them. Now, if there's a shopping special, then I will keep it and find it very useful. We have the Crown Princess to Mexico coming up in September so I do hope we get our Patter the night before. I too like to look at it while relaxing and plan the next day's activities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted July 20, 2016 #160 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Haha! I wonder how much Princess pays the guy who runs the "dumb ideas" department. :) Maybe they get rewarded a percentage of the savings in that department? :p My vote is for water-gate :eek: LOLTony Just an effort to add a little bit of levity to this thread. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceleven Posted July 20, 2016 #161 Share Posted July 20, 2016 When I've sailed RCCL, their daily activity paper includes a smaller tear off version to carry which only contains activities & nothing else...very convenient & better than carrying a full size Patter. It's been a while since I've cruised Carnival but they also had a similar tear off version. Much easier to fold up and put into a pocket. Certainly uses a fraction of paper than the current Patter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasperdo Posted July 20, 2016 #162 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) When I've sailed RCCL, their daily activity paper includes a smaller tear off version to carry which only contains activities & nothing else...very convenient & better than carrying a full size Patter.I agree. That tear off sheet is very convenient. And you still get the full sized Compass that goes into greater detail about the various activities. Edited July 20, 2016 by Jasperdo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawtooth Posted July 20, 2016 #163 Share Posted July 20, 2016 One word to Princess BOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted July 20, 2016 #164 Share Posted July 20, 2016 In the first post the OP provided a PDF copy of the letter about this change & they are providing a "Help Card". "Please find enclosed a 'Help Card' with important contact details for our Port Agents and Embassies to carry with you when venturing ashore in our ports of call". They're providing "a Help Card" which based on their wording is one card with that information for all ports of call. I'm thinking that many passengers could misplace the card and need a replacement card. I'm strongly in favor of receiving a printed copy of the Patter daily which I read each evening before going to sleep to plan my next day. But I've read several studies that say viewing devices at bedtime results in sleep issues and is why Apple has Night Shift in their current iOS. When I've sailed RCCL, their daily activity paper includes a smaller tear off version to carry which only contains activities & nothing else...very convenient & better than carrying a full size Patter. Thanks Wasn't able to open the PDF on my phone. Figured it out, saved to iBooks. They could provide a half sheet patter for those days. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karena1 Posted July 20, 2016 #165 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) While not happy about them not being delivered to my stateroom, as long as I can run down first thing in the morning (I go to the gym at 6 am) and get one every morning on Deck 5, I can live with it. I rarely read it at night. I read it during the morning while laying on the beach so we can decide what time to go have dinner and see the shows. So while it is nice to have it delivered, as long as I can still get a hard copy I am good. I also use them to do my slide show once I get home so I do want a hard copy to take home. Edited July 20, 2016 by karena1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted July 20, 2016 #166 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Instead of going to the Passenger Services desk to btain a Patter people should go there and ask about individual activities like " What activity is at 2:00 in the Piazza? When is the next trivia game? Where is the next trivia game? Can yu explain the procedures for tendering? Questions that would normally be answered in the Patter. Also use the phone for the same requests. The desk would become totally useless and prove the continuing need for the Patter. The at sea app has been basically useless since its inception and any hopes for its improvement are wasted as they could have done it already. By the length of the lines at the PSD some mornings I think people are already asking those questions.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notentirelynormal Posted July 20, 2016 #167 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Since so many of us read the patter before we go to bed I propose that we all go down and get the patter in our sleep wear. Now I realize we all wear different stuff but don't let that deter you. PJs or naked, what ever it happens to be. I sent an email to Princess and within 5 minutes it was read. No response yet and the person that read it had a "Cunard" in her email address. I love Princess and I love my Patter. I use it for everything - except the sales. Okay, I like the photo sales. I have never been to the spa or the art sales. If i want to buy jewelry I'm pretty sure I know where the shops are and when they are having a sale. How are we to know what time the nightly shows are, dinner, the movies etc. Most importantly what time we leave the ship how and for safety reasons what time we have to be back on board and if there are any special instructions on how to get back inside the port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karena1 Posted July 20, 2016 #168 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Sent my email to both addresses as we are on Regal in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgrandmax3 Posted July 20, 2016 #169 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Just back from the Princess Regal and we were given this notice in our stateroom on the first day. I added the notice as an attachment. This sounds like a cost cutting move on the part of Princess, although they claim its for their environmental program. Personally, I enjoy reading the patter the night prior so I can plan the following day out. The App is cool and works well but I don't think it replaces a hard copy. I think its great that Princess is trying to better the environment but for me this was a bust. What are they thinking?? I would be OK with it if the Patter was available in public areas early evening day before. We read and decide much the night before. Princess I am disappointment in this decision. Rethink it please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiBreeze Posted July 20, 2016 #170 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Agree with all of the above... Regarding the Patter, we sometimes wish we had TWO as each of us would like to have one when we go opposite directions!!! LOL We tell our room steward on the first day that we would like 2 patters every evening. It has never been a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Joe Posted July 20, 2016 #171 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Oh my this is not good:(! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo222 Posted July 20, 2016 #172 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Instead of going to the Passenger Services desk to btain a Patter people should go there and ask about individual activities like " What activity is at 2:00 in the Piazza? When is the next trivia game? Where is the next trivia game? Can yu explain the procedures for tendering? Questions that would normally be answered in the Patter. Why do you think they don't already get those calls? I have been at the desk then the person has received phone calls asking: 1) What is the weather outside. 2) Can you read the dinner menu to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliair Posted July 20, 2016 #173 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) If their intent is to save paper...how about fewer sales brochures. We usually get 3-4 pieces of paper daily that go immediately into the trash can. Don't even look at them.:cool: I hate the art auction ads that get stuck in my mail box. Then the Etsy ads, spa ads, on and on. They can stop inserting these papers in the patter, they get thrown away and adds extra work for the cabin steward. I want the patter every day and less announcements over the ship intercom as to what's going on where. Half the time you can't even understand what they are saying. M2CW Edited July 20, 2016 by elliair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seafish Posted July 20, 2016 #174 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Keep Daily In Cabin Princess Patters & get-rid of all that Spa, Excursions, Sales Stuff, etc., that we pitch daily. If we have a specific question/need to book an onboard activity, excursion, etc., we know where to go. So far the survey results says it all. Love Princess - but a trial - come on Princess you know better - wink, wink! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooguy Posted July 20, 2016 #175 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) There is usually a patter on display at the Bar beside the IC. I agree that the one piece of information we need on every port day is all on board time. Edited July 20, 2016 by Zooguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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