Emotional Support Animals

[johhnnyt]

Was glad to see this. I'm sure there are people with genuine needs, but the last few years its been getting out of hand with people just bringing pets onboard, since nowadays you can get any pet a certificate making them an "emotional support animal" for $60. It's just not fair to the other passengers onboard

There should be room for exceptions though for people with genuine documented issues. Another case of people exploiting the open definitions for convenience, not need.

 

I agree with airlines (and hopefully cruiseships will follow)

https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/emotional-support-animals-might-be-getting-kicked-off-flights-thanks-to-snakes-and-llamas-215404101.html

[dkjretired]

Was glad to see this. I'm sure there are people with genuine needs, but the last few years its been getting out of hand with people just bringing pets onboard, since nowadays you can get any pet a certificate making them an "emotional support animal" for $60. It's just not fair to the other passengers onboard

There should be room for exceptions though for people with genuine documented issues. Another case of people exploiting the open definitions for convenience, not need.

 

I agree with airlines (and hopefully cruiseships will follow)

https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/emotional-support-animals-might-be-getting-kicked-off-flights-thanks-to-snakes-and-llamas-215404101.html

 

Here is an excellent thread which has examples of abuse and also discusses the law and its ramifications.

 

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2031702&highlight=service+dogs

 

Emotional Support dogs are not considered Service dogs.

Edited October 13, 2016 by dkjretired

[johhnnyt]

Here is an excellent thread which has examples of abuse and also discusses the law and its ramifications.

 

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2031702&highlight=service+dogs

 

Thanks

 

I do hope they tighten up the rules a bit. I was on a flight a few months back where someone with a emotional support pet was giving a kid two rows back some serious reaction to the dogs hair , I felt so bad for the kid.

 

I wish I could bring my dogs on flights, but in a closed environment of an aircraft, or a limited area on a ship, it should only be allowed if medically necessary

[dkjretired]

Thanks

 

I do hope they tighten up the rules a bit. I was on a flight a few months back where someone with a emotional support pet was giving a kid two rows back some serious reaction to the dogs hair , I felt so bad for the kid.

 

I wish I could bring my dogs on flights, but in a closed environment of an aircraft, or a limited area on a ship, it should only be allowed if medically necessary

 

Below is a short synopsis of the law under the ADA which the cruise lines follow. It actually covers the situation you mentioned and guess what, the kid loses according to the Federal Law.

 

https://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm

[patty1955]

Below is a short synopsis of the law under the ADA which the cruise lines follow. It actually covers the situation you mentioned and guess what, the kid loses according to the Federal Law.

 

https://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm

No, emotional support animals are clearly NOT included. " Dogs whose sole function is to provide comfort or emotional support do not qualify as service animals under the ADA."

[El Crucero]

I wish I could bring my dogs on flights, but in a closed environment of an aircraft, or a limited area on a ship,

 

Plus, it is not fair to the dog unless they are a graduate of extensive and expensive training.

[dkjretired]

No, emotional support animals are clearly NOT included. " Dogs whose sole function is to provide comfort or emotional support do not qualify as service animals under the ADA."

 

I stated that in post two, I was referring to the section of the ADA concerning allergies and fear of dogs.

[davekathy]

If someone brings their so called Emotional Support dog (rolling eyes) on a Cruise are they allowed to take it off the ship at the different ports?

[dkjretired]

If someone brings their so called Emotional Support dog (rolling eyes) on a Cruise are they allowed to take it off the ship at the different ports?

 

Really depends on the laws of the country you are visiting.

[Algebralovr]

If someone brings their so called Emotional Support dog (rolling eyes) on a Cruise are they allowed to take it off the ship at the different ports?

 

ESAs are not welcome on cruise ships.

[LisaAtlCruiser]

The animals don't bother me as much as the owners that abuse the system. I think it is despicable frankly! I get they love their pet. But money says these very same people park in handicap parking places and feel entitled.

 

These service dogs have a very real purpose for very real needs and shame on people that abuse that!

[DrivesLikeMario]

Never mind. Hearing my mother say, "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all."...

Edited October 14, 2016 by DrivesLikeMario

[JohnSnowGOT]

Bringing my beautiful 15 year old cat on a cruise would make the cruise puuurfect. I miss my pets when cruising.:)

[davekathy]

ESAs are not welcome on cruise ships.

 

Got it. Emotional Support Dogs have become Service Dogs.

[donaldsc]

Was glad to see this. I'm sure there are people with genuine needs, but the last few years its been getting out of hand with people just bringing pets onboard, since nowadays you can get any pet a certificate making them an "emotional support animal" for $60. It's just not fair to the other passengers onboard

There should be room for exceptions though for people with genuine documented issues. Another case of people exploiting the open definitions for convenience, not need.

 

I agree with airlines (and hopefully cruiseships will follow)

https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/emotional-support-animals-might-be-getting-kicked-off-flights-thanks-to-snakes-and-llamas-215404101.html

 

I do volunteer work at a National Conservation Center. You would be amazed at how many people own Emotional Service Chihuahuas. I am going to get an emotional support lion and train to eat Emotional Service Chihuahuas. The support that it will give me is to see the chihuahuas eaten in one gulp.

 

DON

[FlamingJune1967]

My daughter has an "emotional support" Pit Bull. It was the only way she could have a dog at her apartment complex. The complex was "dog-free" - but I saw many dogs every time I visited. Apparently, it has become a way to beat the system.

I think it's ridiculous! She's the most emotionally stable person I've ever met! But no apartments would take pit bulls, so I understand why she did. Still...

 

(BTW, all you need to qualify is a letter from a Dr. and a small fee.)

[dkjretired]

My daughter has an "emotional support" Pit Bull. It was the only way she could have a dog at her apartment complex. The complex was "dog-free" - but I saw many dogs every time I visited. Apparently, it has become a way to beat the system.

I think it's ridiculous! She's the most emotionally stable person I've ever met! But no apartments would take pit bulls, so I understand why she did. Still...

 

(BTW, all you need to qualify is a letter from a Dr. and a small fee.)

 

Apparently the apartment complex owner does not know the law or chose not to enforce it.. Emotional Support dogs do not qualify under the ADA law, you don't even need a letter from the Doctor. The letters and fee are for any of a number of companies out to make money with no legal standing.

Edited October 14, 2016 by dkjretired

[GUT2407]

Just amazing that the system is so open to abuse.

 

Even more amazing is that so many are ready and willing to abuse it.

[Host Walt]

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