johhnnyt Posted October 13, 2016 #1 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Was glad to see this. I'm sure there are people with genuine needs, but the last few years its been getting out of hand with people just bringing pets onboard, since nowadays you can get any pet a certificate making them an "emotional support animal" for $60. It's just not fair to the other passengers onboard There should be room for exceptions though for people with genuine documented issues. Another case of people exploiting the open definitions for convenience, not need. I agree with airlines (and hopefully cruiseships will follow) https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/emotional-support-animals-might-be-getting-kicked-off-flights-thanks-to-snakes-and-llamas-215404101.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted October 13, 2016 #2 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) Was glad to see this. I'm sure there are people with genuine needs, but the last few years its been getting out of hand with people just bringing pets onboard, since nowadays you can get any pet a certificate making them an "emotional support animal" for $60. It's just not fair to the other passengers onboard There should be room for exceptions though for people with genuine documented issues. Another case of people exploiting the open definitions for convenience, not need. I agree with airlines (and hopefully cruiseships will follow) https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/emotional-support-animals-might-be-getting-kicked-off-flights-thanks-to-snakes-and-llamas-215404101.html Here is an excellent thread which has examples of abuse and also discusses the law and its ramifications. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2031702&highlight=service+dogs Emotional Support dogs are not considered Service dogs. Edited October 13, 2016 by dkjretired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johhnnyt Posted October 13, 2016 Author #3 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Here is an excellent thread which has examples of abuse and also discusses the law and its ramifications. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2031702&highlight=service+dogs Thanks I do hope they tighten up the rules a bit. I was on a flight a few months back where someone with a emotional support pet was giving a kid two rows back some serious reaction to the dogs hair , I felt so bad for the kid. I wish I could bring my dogs on flights, but in a closed environment of an aircraft, or a limited area on a ship, it should only be allowed if medically necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted October 13, 2016 #4 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Thanks I do hope they tighten up the rules a bit. I was on a flight a few months back where someone with a emotional support pet was giving a kid two rows back some serious reaction to the dogs hair , I felt so bad for the kid. I wish I could bring my dogs on flights, but in a closed environment of an aircraft, or a limited area on a ship, it should only be allowed if medically necessary Below is a short synopsis of the law under the ADA which the cruise lines follow. It actually covers the situation you mentioned and guess what, the kid loses according to the Federal Law. https://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patty1955 Posted October 13, 2016 #5 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Below is a short synopsis of the law under the ADA which the cruise lines follow. It actually covers the situation you mentioned and guess what, the kid loses according to the Federal Law. https://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm No, emotional support animals are clearly NOT included. " Dogs whose sole function is to provide comfort or emotional support do not qualify as service animals under the ADA." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Crucero Posted October 13, 2016 #6 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I wish I could bring my dogs on flights, but in a closed environment of an aircraft, or a limited area on a ship, Plus, it is not fair to the dog unless they are a graduate of extensive and expensive training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted October 13, 2016 #7 Share Posted October 13, 2016 No, emotional support animals are clearly NOT included. " Dogs whose sole function is to provide comfort or emotional support do not qualify as service animals under the ADA." I stated that in post two, I was referring to the section of the ADA concerning allergies and fear of dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted October 14, 2016 #8 Share Posted October 14, 2016 If someone brings their so called Emotional Support dog (rolling eyes) on a Cruise are they allowed to take it off the ship at the different ports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted October 14, 2016 #9 Share Posted October 14, 2016 If someone brings their so called Emotional Support dog (rolling eyes) on a Cruise are they allowed to take it off the ship at the different ports? Really depends on the laws of the country you are visiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algebralovr Posted October 14, 2016 #10 Share Posted October 14, 2016 If someone brings their so called Emotional Support dog (rolling eyes) on a Cruise are they allowed to take it off the ship at the different ports? ESAs are not welcome on cruise ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaAtlCruiser Posted October 14, 2016 #11 Share Posted October 14, 2016 The animals don't bother me as much as the owners that abuse the system. I think it is despicable frankly! I get they love their pet. But money says these very same people park in handicap parking places and feel entitled. These service dogs have a very real purpose for very real needs and shame on people that abuse that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivesLikeMario Posted October 14, 2016 #12 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Never mind. Hearing my mother say, "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all."... Edited October 14, 2016 by DrivesLikeMario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSnowGOT Posted October 14, 2016 #13 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Bringing my beautiful 15 year old cat on a cruise would make the cruise puuurfect. I miss my pets when cruising.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted October 14, 2016 #14 Share Posted October 14, 2016 ESAs are not welcome on cruise ships. Got it. Emotional Support Dogs have become Service Dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted October 14, 2016 #15 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Was glad to see this. I'm sure there are people with genuine needs, but the last few years its been getting out of hand with people just bringing pets onboard, since nowadays you can get any pet a certificate making them an "emotional support animal" for $60. It's just not fair to the other passengers onboard There should be room for exceptions though for people with genuine documented issues. Another case of people exploiting the open definitions for convenience, not need. I agree with airlines (and hopefully cruiseships will follow) https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/emotional-support-animals-might-be-getting-kicked-off-flights-thanks-to-snakes-and-llamas-215404101.html I do volunteer work at a National Conservation Center. You would be amazed at how many people own Emotional Service Chihuahuas. I am going to get an emotional support lion and train to eat Emotional Service Chihuahuas. The support that it will give me is to see the chihuahuas eaten in one gulp. DON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingJune1967 Posted October 14, 2016 #16 Share Posted October 14, 2016 My daughter has an "emotional support" Pit Bull. It was the only way she could have a dog at her apartment complex. The complex was "dog-free" - but I saw many dogs every time I visited. Apparently, it has become a way to beat the system. I think it's ridiculous! She's the most emotionally stable person I've ever met! But no apartments would take pit bulls, so I understand why she did. Still... (BTW, all you need to qualify is a letter from a Dr. and a small fee.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted October 14, 2016 #17 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) My daughter has an "emotional support" Pit Bull. It was the only way she could have a dog at her apartment complex. The complex was "dog-free" - but I saw many dogs every time I visited. Apparently, it has become a way to beat the system. I think it's ridiculous! She's the most emotionally stable person I've ever met! But no apartments would take pit bulls, so I understand why she did. Still... (BTW, all you need to qualify is a letter from a Dr. and a small fee.) Apparently the apartment complex owner does not know the law or chose not to enforce it.. Emotional Support dogs do not qualify under the ADA law, you don't even need a letter from the Doctor. The letters and fee are for any of a number of companies out to make money with no legal standing. Edited October 14, 2016 by dkjretired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted October 14, 2016 #18 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Just amazing that the system is so open to abuse. Even more amazing is that so many are ready and willing to abuse it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Walt Posted October 14, 2016 #19 Share Posted October 14, 2016 This thread has been moved to the Disabled Cruisers board.The discussion continues on that board. Link: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2412665 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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