jmac313 Posted March 12, 2017 #26 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Respect for who? I won't mind your suit if you don't mind my shorts! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knicola11 Posted March 13, 2017 #27 Share Posted March 13, 2017 The problem is Royal Caribbean's windjammer cafe is so awful, most people don't want to eat there. So more casually dressed people won't eat there. When we sailed on the Silhouette and the Crown Princess , many people ate in their buffet area's for dinner. Sent from my SM-N920V using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted March 13, 2017 #28 Share Posted March 13, 2017 If the staff at the entrance of the MDR allows those to enter the MDR in the evening wearing something other than what is suggested for the MDR in the evening so be it. Their call. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted March 13, 2017 #29 Share Posted March 13, 2017 The problem is Royal Caribbean's windjammer cafe is so awful, most people don't want to eat there. So more casually dressed people won't eat there. When we sailed on the Silhouette and the Crown Princess , many people ate in their buffet area's for dinner. We've never found WIndjammer awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare RCLcruiser2012 Posted March 13, 2017 #30 Share Posted March 13, 2017 YES. YES. and YES. Exactly how I feel!! You wrote it much better!! :)I am in my mid-30's as well. I guess I just don't get the issue with adhering to dress codes. I'm in my mid-30s (depending on posters who think dress attire is "old school" vs. "new school"), and I don't know why dress code couldn't/shouldn't be enforced. I bring up my age only because I keep hearing that age is a reason for a "newer" way of thinking of dining. I approach dining on how I would dress (or how I "should" dress) when I'm dining "at home." The MDR gets a bad rep, but I still think of it should be looked at as an higher-end (not necessarily fine-dining) restaurant, where the wait staff cares for your every need. Business casual should be a minimum. If you go to specialty dining or, more importantly, formal night, it should be exactly that...formal. Each cruise line posts its expectations/requirements. Do I like dressing up? Not necessarily on a regular basis. But if that's the requirement of the establishment that I want to enter, than YES, I will adhere to the requirements. This is no different than any restaurant in your area. I just don't see why people think it should be any different when you're "on vacation." You choose the establishment when you're at home and you choose where you eat on the cruise. Each cruise line lets passengers know, well ahead of time, what their expectations are regarding dining attire, so there shouldn't be a planning/packing problem. If don't want to dress a certain way, no problem....here are the places where you can dine. However, I am constantly disappointed in RC enforcement of the dress code, and because of this, many do question on why they should adhere to a rule. Because we see individuals/families not adhering to the prescribed dress code, leads to individuals asking themselves "why should I?" That being said, I feel RC should do a better job in restricting access to those who don't follow the dress policy. Are they really losing a significant amount of $$$ from "upsetting" those who do not like the policy? Sorry for the rant, I just don't see why pre-established rules (regardless if it's horribly enforced), causes so my trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted March 13, 2017 #31 Share Posted March 13, 2017 We were on Carnival last year and the mdr was fairly casual. On non formal nights most men were wearing dressy shorts and polos and women had on dresses or capris. Formal night varied a lot with folks wearing everything from jeans to evening gowns. Dh wore khakis and a button down shirt with a tie. I wore a dress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand isle joe Posted March 13, 2017 #32 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just off the Freedom and let's just say it was really "dress suggestions"................Carnival II...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukkian Posted March 13, 2017 #33 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I guess I just don't get the issue with adhering to dress codes. I'm in my mid-30s (depending on posters who think dress attire is "old school" vs. "new school"), and I don't know why dress code couldn't/shouldn't be enforced. I bring up my age only because I keep hearing that age is a reason for a "newer" way of thinking of dining. I approach dining on how I would dress (or how I "should" dress) when I'm dining "at home." The MDR gets a bad rep, but I still think of it should be looked at as an higher-end (not necessarily fine-dining) restaurant, where the wait staff cares for your every need. Business casual should be a minimum. If you go to specialty dining or, more importantly, formal night, it should be exactly that...formal. Each cruise line posts its expectations/requirements. Do I like dressing up? Not necessarily on a regular basis. But if that's the requirement of the establishment that I want to enter, than YES, I will adhere to the requirements. This is no different than any restaurant in your area. I just don't see why people think it should be any different when you're "on vacation." You choose the establishment when you're at home and you choose where you eat on the cruise. Each cruise line lets passengers know, well ahead of time, what their expectations are regarding dining attire, so there shouldn't be a planning/packing problem. If don't want to dress a certain way, no problem....here are the places where you can dine. However, I am constantly disappointed in RC enforcement of the dress code, and because of this, many do question on why they should adhere to a rule. Because we see individuals/families not adhering to the prescribed dress code, leads to individuals asking themselves "why should I?" That being said, I feel RC should do a better job in restricting access to those who don't follow the dress policy. Are they really losing a significant amount of $$$ from "upsetting" those who do not like the policy? Sorry for the rant, I just don't see why pre-established rules (regardless if it's horribly enforced), causes so my trouble. The big difference is there is not free code, it is a suggestion. I was in jots last month, and brought clothes for each dress code, but realized on the ship, it clearly stated suggestions, and made no mention of a dress code anywhere. I ended up *gasp* wearing shorts on non-formal nights, but it was my work clothes- khaki shorts, polo shirt and loafers. I was right in the middle of the road compared to others. While I might notice what is wear, I really don't care what any body else wears if they are not family. I know some people like dressing up, but I despise it, and the last cruise it cost us a bit cause we needed to pay to check an extra suit case, and I even bought a suit, and my wife bought a dress as well, as she just did not wear dresses, ever. If they decide to implement a dress code that forces it more formal without causing the level of service and food, I would probably look elsewhere for better value. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TominNC Posted March 13, 2017 #34 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Since it's suggested dress and not a rule, why doesn't everyone do their own thing and not judge those at other tables? You tux, or suit, or sports jacket or button down or t-shirt are fine by me. Just be clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aricczona Posted March 13, 2017 #35 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I do not dress to adhere to a "suggested" code. I dress to suit my family and spouse. I want to look nice for them. I do not pay attention to what others wear. Everyone has their own cruise style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclop Posted March 13, 2017 #36 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Lip service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted March 13, 2017 #37 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I do not dress to adhere to a "suggested" code. I dress to suit my family and spouse. I want to look nice for them. I do not pay attention to what others wear. Everyone has their own cruise style. Ditto. I typically have no interest in patronizing a restaurant that tells me how to dress. IMHO if I'm paying the bill I call that shot. If a restaurants wants to enforce a more formal dress code I'm happy to go somewhere else so everybody is happy. But on a cruise that's the main option so I'll attend and play the game a little and make a little effort as I understand it is important to some people. But personally I love all my fellow cruisers including the ones who come to dinner in tuxes and the ones who show up in t shirts, swim shorts and flip flops (one tablemate on formal night on Mariner and he did get bounced). Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvbluseas Posted March 13, 2017 #38 Share Posted March 13, 2017 You seem to forget that it is THEIR SHIP! When it is your ship you can make the rules, I think that as long as they own the ship they should get to make the rules! All of you that only know how to dress like you are going to clean out a cow barn should be ashamed that you never learned to dress properly! Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TominNC Posted March 13, 2017 #39 Share Posted March 13, 2017 You seem to forget that it is THEIR SHIP! When it is your ship you can make the rules, I think that as long as they own the ship they should get to make the rules! All of you that only know how to dress like you are going to clean out a cow barn should be ashamed that you never learned to dress properly! Sent from my iPad using Forums It's a suggestion, not a rule. They can enforce what they like. They don't. People then dress for their own comfort and enjoyment of the meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvbluseas Posted March 13, 2017 #40 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I have seen people run red lights, does that mean we all should......because it is not always enforced? Or should we follow the rules? Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHouseFootball Posted March 13, 2017 #41 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I just don't get it. Is your enjoyment of your meal directly tied to what strangers at other tables are wearing? Does that make your dinner taste better or worse? I for one don't pay any attention to what others are wearing as it has no affect on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 13, 2017 #42 Share Posted March 13, 2017 You seem to forget that it is THEIR SHIP! When it is your ship you can make the rules, I think that as long as they own the ship they should get to make the rules! All of you that only know how to dress like you are going to clean out a cow barn should be ashamed that you never learned to dress properly! Sent from my iPad using Forums Tell us what are the "rules". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvbluseas Posted March 13, 2017 #43 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I was raised to follow rules and laws. That that is what civilized, polite people do, I have found it works well in life. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 13, 2017 #44 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I have seen people run red lights, does that mean we all should......because it is not always enforced? Or should we follow the rules? Sent from my iPad using Forums I tend to not want to die in my car, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvbluseas Posted March 13, 2017 #45 Share Posted March 13, 2017 It is in the cruise contract, do you ever read it? Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 13, 2017 #46 Share Posted March 13, 2017 That that is what civilized, polite people do Sent from my iPad using Forums there was nothing civilized or polite about your rant. you haven't even shown us that you clearly understand the rules at all :confused: Guess when you put on pants you think you have a right to yell down at others. Doesn't work that way in the real world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 13, 2017 #47 Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) It is in the cruise contract, do you ever read it? Sent from my iPad using Forums Yes, tell me where a suggestion of what to wear is a rule. Please show me. I'm exceptionally well versed in contacts and just don't see these rules you talk about... https://secure.royalcaribbean.com/content/en_US/pdf/CTC_Not_For_BR.pdf Edited March 13, 2017 by LMaxwell link to cruise contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted March 13, 2017 #48 Share Posted March 13, 2017 According to RCI it's a dress code not a dress rule. Huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TominNC Posted March 13, 2017 #49 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Kind of silly to compare a life and death thing like running a red light to what someone wears to dinner. But I suppose the poster has NEVER walked across the street on a red light, or crossed somewhere other than the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted March 13, 2017 #50 Share Posted March 13, 2017 The problem is Royal Caribbean's windjammer cafe is so awful, most people don't want to eat there. So more casually dressed people won't eat there. When we sailed on the Silhouette and the Crown Princess , many people ate in their buffet area's for dinner. Sent from my SM-N920V using Forums mobile app I just spent 7 nights on Adventure where the Windjammer food was excellent and it was the busiest I've ever seen for dinner. Sent from my Bat phone using Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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